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As a Kobe stan and a 80s baby and someone who just grew up with Jordan basically ruining every other star player's legacy with complete domination and the attitude that he'd do it with or without his teammates, I started off looking at Lebron in a negative light, as this bytch made chip chaser but more and more I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way especially in the era of free agency where it's tough to keep teams together? Maybe he's ahead of his time.......Maybe he sees it differently, the right way and we're wrong?

We've always held superstar athletes to the standard that they should be loyal to a specific team and city regardless of how much the team upholds their end of the bargain in terms of putting them in the best position to win. I've watched Billy King waste Allen Iverson's entire career in Philly doing shyt like drafting Larry Hughes over Dirk and Paul Pierce. No matter how much the 76ers disappointed it was all good because Allen put asses in the seats......We all saw what happened to Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.

Lebron or any superstar playing a team substantially increases the valuation of a franchise and automatically makes any team in the league a contender, yet his legacy alone is hurt by losing......in addition to being underpaid in terms of being the best basketball player in the world & keeping the league afloat........He's taking the ball and putting it on his court and honestly as a guy who defends players over billionaire owners I'm starting to respect the fukk out of this. He's singlehandedly changing the rules...It's almost like Suge when he first started Death Row, he wasn't taking shyt from these Labels, he wanted his masters, Interscope gave him his masters, aight we can do business......or No Limit/Cash Money saying fukk your imprint deal, just distribute us and give us that 85/15 split nikka......Players are now exercising the little power they have. No longer can a team sit up here and hire incompetent gms and coaches, not make the right moves, mess up drafts and free agent signings for years upon because the valuation of the your franchise is in jeopardy when your star players leaves and throws you in the bushes just as you would a player who can't play. Seems like some bytch made chip chasing stack the deck create whole team of players with all 99s video game shyt but he's loyal to HIMSELF and winning and I've come to respect that. He doesn't owe loyalty to a team he singlehandedly makes better and increases the valuation of.......The rules have changed.

At the end of the day, bringing 3 different teams to an NBA finals isn't shyt to sneeze at......It sounds easy with a stacked roster but you still have to do the work, fight through the regular season, avoid injuries, have good chemistry and make the shyt happen. We all can name plenty of teams in every sport that seemed stacked that didn't. So fukk it, go to Cleveland, Phoenix, LA Clippers, whatever.......he gets them another chip and the Heat fall off like Cleveland did when he left or Orlando did when Shaq left.....and his legacy doesn't change for me. He's a great player that singlehandedly makes teams contenders that changed the way we look at how players should provide service/loyalty towards teams. We all knew it was a business when it came to gms/owners trading players (which involves them changing their living situation at the drop of a fukking dime), cutting players (players losing their job) now the shoe is on the other foot.
 
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As a Kobe stan and a 80s baby and someone who just grew up with Jordan basically ruining every other star player's legacy with complete domination and the attitude that he'd do it with or without his teammates, I started off looking at Lebron in a negative light, as this bytch made chip chaser but more and more I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way especially in the era of free agency where it's tough to keep teams together? Maybe he's ahead of his time.......Maybe he sees it differently, the right way and we're wrong?

We've always held superstar athletes to the standard that they should be loyal to a specific team and city regardless of how much the team upholds their end of the bargain in terms of putting them in the best position to win. I've watched Billy King waste Allen Iverson's entire career in Philly doing shyt like drafting Larry Hughes over Dirk and Paul Pierce. No matter how much the 76ers disappointed it was all good because Allen put asses in the seats......We all saw what happened to Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.

Lebron or any superstar playing a team substantially increases the valuation of a franchise and automatically makes any team in the league a contender, yet his legacy alone is hurt by losing......in addition to being underpaid in terms of being the best basketball player in the world & keeping the league afloat........He's taking the ball and putting it on his court and honestly as a guy who defends players over billionaire owners I'm starting to respect the fukk out of this. He's singlehandedly changing the rules...It's almost like Suge when he first started Death Row, he wasn't taking shyt from these Labels, he wanted his masters, Interscope gave him his masters, aight we can do business......or No Limit/Cash Money saying fukk your imprint deal, just distribute us and give us that 85/15 split nikka......Players are now exercising the little power they have. No longer can a team sit up here and hire incompetent gms and coaches, not make the right moves, mess up drafts and free agent signings for years upon because the valuation of the your franchise is in jeopardy when your star players leaves and throws you in the bushes just as you would a player who can't play. Seems like some bytch made chip chasing stack the deck create whole team of players with all 99s video game shyt but he's loyal to HIMSELF and winning and I've come to respect that. He doesn't owe loyalty to a team he singlehandedly makes better and increases the valuation of.......The rules have changed.

At the end of the day, bringing 3 different teams to an NBA finals isn't shyt to sneeze at......It sounds easy with a stacked roster but you still have to do the work, fight through the regular season, avoid injuries, have good chemistry and make the shyt happen. We all can name plenty of teams in every sport that seemed stacked that didn't. So fukk it, go to Cleveland, Phoenix, LA Clippers, whatever.......he gets them another chip and the Heat fall off like Cleveland did when he left or Orlando did when Shaq left.....and his legacy doesn't change for me. He's a great player that singlehandedly makes teams contenders that changed the way we look at how players should provide service/loyalty towards teams. We all knew it was a business when it came to gms/owners trading players (which involves them changing their living situation at the drop of a fukking dime), cutting players (players losing their job) now the shoe is on the other foot.


So he's more Shaq and Wilt than anything else?
 

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I think LeBron would've won a title with the Cavs the next year had he stayed in Cleveland :yeshrug:

Had he just made it past Orlando or Boston the Cavs would have beat the Lakers.....I truly believe that. Lebron teams (both Cleveland and Miami) have historically dominated Kobe's lakers........As a laker fan I remember praying that Orlando would beat Cleveland and even predicted it would happen.
 

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So he's more Shaq and Wilt than anything else?

Shaq and Lebron are a lot different to me.

Shaq was about his paper. Orlando low balled him....he went to the Lakers who offered him way more. Lakers didn't want to give him a new contract (in addition to the beef with Kobe).....thus the trade to Miami.
 

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Shaq and Lebron are a lot different to me.

Shaq was about his paper. Orlando low balled him....he went to the Lakers who offered him way more. Lakers didn't want to give him a new contract (in addition to the beef with Kobe).....thus the trade to Miami.
:whoa:

As a Magic fan I remember that summer vividly and it was a back and forth bidding war with LA and Orlando and I seem to recall the Magic offered him a slightly higher amount (slightly) in the final hour but he went to the Lakers anyway. He was always gonna go to Hollywood, we had no chance and he knew what was gonna unfold down in Mouse town :to:
 

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:whoa:

As a Magic fan I remember that summer vividly and it was a back and forth bidding war with LA and Orlando and I seem to recall the Magic offered him a slightly higher amount (slightly) in the final hour but he went to the Lakers anyway. He was always gonna go to Hollywood, we had no chance and he knew what was gonna unfold down in Mouse town :to:



I guess we're both right


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...4-20110603_1_shaq-magic-jersey-leonard-armato


Running off at the typewriter. …

Finally, on the day one of the greatest players of all-time retired, I got a chance to ask The Big Orlandoan why he really left the Magic all those years ago. Was it actually the Orlando Sentinel poll in which readers overwhelmingly voted that Shaq was not worth a $120 million contract? Was it the Magic's initial low-ball offer that insulted him? Or was it simply because he wanted to play for the Lakers and be a big star in a big city?

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It was mainly the latter, although Shaq said the Sentinel poll and the Magic's indecision about whether to match the $121 million Lakers' offer were certainly factors.

"Fifty percent of it was that I was selfish. I had a lot of stuff going on … movies and albums … that I couldn't pass up," Shaq said following a packed retirement announcement at his palatial Isleworth home with the Magic-blue tile roof. "Forty percent of it was the Sentinel poll and the fact that I was very sensitive at a young age. Ten percent of it was that Bob (Magic president Bob Vander Weide) and the organization didn't move quickly enough (to match the Lakers' offer)."
 

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Lebron is quickly beginning to have one of the most interesting careers of any superstar athlete ever. Dude is a nomad in search of titles...

:manny: You guys should watch soccer. shyt is JUST like this.
 

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If LeBron SAS thinking purely basketball, he'd go to Phoenix. But there's more to the game than that. I still doubt he leaves Miami, even though there's greener pastures in terms of contending. As long as he's in the east, he'll skate by.
 

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Bron and melo signing to philly is probably the best fit roster & market wise

Gives the opportunity to win titles now and later... As they decline, embiid, Noel, saric and mcw will be hitting their prime

Could win 7 or 8 straight

In a major top 5 market on the east coast

Stable ownership, front office/coach and new state of the art practice facility


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And he's done it all without a father or college education.

I couldn't think of a single person who was as well equipped to deal with the backlash as he is when it comes to controlling his own destiny.

He's got this league in the palm of his hand and they dance to his beat.

What's funny is Lebron has so many haters on this board particularly, but best believe, If he went to their team :banderas::banderas::banderas::banderas: their drum beat would change like a girl getting ghetto gagged and realizing this is not the life for me
 

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What's funny is Lebron has so many haters on this board particularly, but best believe, If he went to their team :banderas::banderas::banderas::banderas: their drum beat would change like a girl getting ghetto gagged and realizing this is not the life for me
Right, and all the Heat fans would hate him, or become fans of his new team. What's your point?
 
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