Source: LeBron starts process of evaluating suitors

[froggle]

Right, and all the Heat fans would hate him, or become fans of his new team. What's your point?

He's got this league in the palm of his hand and they dance to his beat.

I was replying to this

 

[FTBS]

As a Kobe stan and a 80s baby and someone who just grew up with Jordan basically ruining every other star player's legacy with complete domination and the attitude that he'd do it with or without his teammates, I started off looking at Lebron in a negative light, as this bytch made chip chaser but more and more I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way especially in the era of free agency where it's tough to keep teams together? Maybe he's ahead of his time.......Maybe he sees it differently, the right way and we're wrong?

We've always held superstar athletes to the standard that they should be loyal to a specific team and city regardless of how much the team upholds their end of the bargain in terms of putting them in the best position to win. I've watched Billy King waste Allen Iverson's entire career in Philly doing shyt like drafting Larry Hughes over Dirk and Paul Pierce. No matter how much the 76ers disappointed it was all good because Allen put asses in the seats......We all saw what happened to Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.

Lebron or any superstar playing a team substantially increases the valuation of a franchise and automatically makes any team in the league a contender, yet his legacy alone is hurt by losing......in addition to being underpaid in terms of being the best basketball player in the world & keeping the league afloat........He's taking the ball and putting it on his court and honestly as a guy who defends players over billionaire owners I'm starting to respect the fukk out of this. He's singlehandedly changing the rules...It's almost like Suge when he first started Death Row, he wasn't taking shyt from these Labels, he wanted his masters, Interscope gave him his masters, aight we can do business......or No Limit/Cash Money saying fukk your imprint deal, just distribute us and give us that 85/15 split nikka......Players are now exercising the little power they have. No longer can a team sit up here and hire incompetent gms and coaches, not make the right moves, mess up drafts and free agent signings for years upon because the valuation of the your franchise is in jeopardy when your star players leaves and throws you in the bushes just as you would a player who can't play. Seems like some bytch made chip chasing stack the deck create whole team of players with all 99s video game shyt but he's loyal to HIMSELF and winning and I've come to respect that. He doesn't owe loyalty to a team he singlehandedly makes better and increases the valuation of.......The rules have changed.

At the end of the day, bringing 3 different teams to an NBA finals isn't shyt to sneeze at......It sounds easy with a stacked roster but you still have to do the work, fight through the regular season, avoid injuries, have good chemistry and make the shyt happen. We all can name plenty of teams in every sport that seemed stacked that didn't. So fukk it, go to Cleveland, Phoenix, LA Clippers, whatever.......he gets them another chip and the Heat fall off like Cleveland did when he left or Orlando did when Shaq left.....and his legacy doesn't change for me. He's a great player that singlehandedly makes teams contenders that changed the way we look at how players should provide service/loyalty towards teams. We all knew it was a business when it came to gms/owners trading players (which involves them changing their living situation at the drop of a fukking dime), cutting players (players losing their job) now the shoe is on the other foot.

Well said. Sports is the only arena where we expect people to stay somewhere just because or avoid putting themselves in the best circumstance possible. I really don't give a fukk about any players legacy...especially one that is still playing. It's the most overused, pointless word in sports today.

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

I think LeBron would've won a title with the Cavs the next year had he stayed in Cleveland

Even if they won the Eastern conference, which I doubt they would have, Cleveland with Bron wouldn't have beaten Dallas.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

gonna end up in the Western Conference

Not enough .500 teams.

 

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

when he left the Cavs four years ago i'd never seen a city's morale drop because of the departure of a one star athlete.....

will the love still be there if he returns ?

 

[Jplaya2023]

Had he just made it past Orlando or Boston the Cavs would have beat the Lakers.....I truly believe that. Lebron teams (both Cleveland and Miami) have historically dominated Kobe's lakers........As a laker fan I remember praying that Orlando would beat Cleveland and even predicted it would happen.

the lakers would've killed them in 5. No answer for gasol bynum and LO. Phil would've coached circles around MB. i dont care what their regular season record against la was

 

[RugbyCardigan]

This is how someone with no come back responds.

 

[NatiboyB]

Quiet as kept this will fukk free agency up for all parties involved because every team with a chance will be all out for Lebron leaving dudes Like Melo to feel like shyt.

 

[Swagnificent]

Doesn't jumping ship again, especially to go to a loaded Clippers team, negate his overall historic greatness?

people forget shyt so easily. nikkas was saying the same thing when he signed with the heat. then 2 years later they were calling him the GOAT after he won his first title. if bron goes to the clippers and wins a ring, even with an all-star team, the same chorus of stans will come outta the woodwork proclaiming him the GOAT eventhough he'd be on another superteam that is the prohibitive favorite to win.

he might even get another MVP out of it. you know having to drag the likes of CP3, Blake, and DeAndre Jordan to the top record out west.

 

[Surreal]

This is how someone with no come back responds.

 

[NatiboyB]

I'd venture to say that the only way Lebron leaves the Heat is via a sign and trade.

 

[Primetime]

As a Kobe stan and a 80s baby and someone who just grew up with Jordan basically ruining every other star player's legacy with complete domination and the attitude that he'd do it with or without his teammates, I started off looking at Lebron in a negative light, as this bytch made chip chaser but more and more I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way especially in the era of free agency where it's tough to keep teams together? Maybe he's ahead of his time.......Maybe he sees it differently, the right way and we're wrong?

We've always held superstar athletes to the standard that they should be loyal to a specific team and city regardless of how much the team upholds their end of the bargain in terms of putting them in the best position to win. I've watched Billy King waste Allen Iverson's entire career in Philly doing shyt like drafting Larry Hughes over Dirk and Paul Pierce. No matter how much the 76ers disappointed it was all good because Allen put asses in the seats......We all saw what happened to Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.

Lebron or any superstar playing a team substantially increases the valuation of a franchise and automatically makes any team in the league a contender, yet his legacy alone is hurt by losing......in addition to being underpaid in terms of being the best basketball player in the world & keeping the league afloat........He's taking the ball and putting it on his court and honestly as a guy who defends players over billionaire owners I'm starting to respect the fukk out of this. He's singlehandedly changing the rules...It's almost like Suge when he first started Death Row, he wasn't taking shyt from these Labels, he wanted his masters, Interscope gave him his masters, aight we can do business......or No Limit/Cash Money saying fukk your imprint deal, just distribute us and give us that 85/15 split nikka......Players are now exercising the little power they have. No longer can a team sit up here and hire incompetent gms and coaches, not make the right moves, mess up drafts and free agent signings for years upon because the valuation of the your franchise is in jeopardy when your star players leaves and throws you in the bushes just as you would a player who can't play. Seems like some bytch made chip chasing stack the deck create whole team of players with all 99s video game shyt but he's loyal to HIMSELF and winning and I've come to respect that. He doesn't owe loyalty to a team he singlehandedly makes better and increases the valuation of.......The rules have changed.

At the end of the day, bringing 3 different teams to an NBA finals isn't shyt to sneeze at......It sounds easy with a stacked roster but you still have to do the work, fight through the regular season, avoid injuries, have good chemistry and make the shyt happen. We all can name plenty of teams in every sport that seemed stacked that didn't. So fukk it, go to Cleveland, Phoenix, LA Clippers, whatever.......he gets them another chip and the Heat fall off like Cleveland did when he left or Orlando did when Shaq left.....and his legacy doesn't change for me. He's a great player that singlehandedly makes teams contenders that changed the way we look at how players should provide service/loyalty towards teams. We all knew it was a business when it came to gms/owners trading players (which involves them changing their living situation at the drop of a fukking dime), cutting players (players losing their job) now the shoe is on the other foot.

Nice. This was why i always felt the decision was genius. i used to argue with my boy about it shortly after it happened (he was a portland trailblazer fan who had no stake in the kobe/jordan/lebron/etc) but he just couldn't see it bc he was looking at it from a purely 'traditionalist' basketball perspective. i.e. You stay with one team, you make it your home unless otherwise traded, and you only play with other star players if they come around by happenstance... or you get too old and :flabby: and then its ok to do whatever. When i pointed out that it all seemed like a bunch of arbitrary ass rules to follow, he wasn't tryna hear it.

At the end of the day, Lebron took another franchise and made their beloved franchise player fall back and be his sidekick, while snatching all the accolades and glory that came with team success. If Jordan was the fortune 500 company that strictly looked to put competing companies out of business to where he was the only one on top... Lebron is the fortune 500 that's all about mergers and acquisitions, absorbing competing companies under his umbrella to take out the remaining companies that wouldn't comply, until he's the only one on top as the sole or parent company.

Its two different approaches but if done right, can lead to the same place and fame. Only thing with bron, as shown in the mavs series and a couple other times in his career, he can set up the perfect situation for himself but then when it comes down to getting the actual deed done.. some questionable things start happening performance wise that's just inexcusable on his part.

 

[mastermind]

As a Kobe stan and a 80s baby and someone who just grew up with Jordan basically ruining every other star player's legacy with complete domination and the attitude that he'd do it with or without his teammates, I started off looking at Lebron in a negative light, as this bytch made chip chaser but more and more I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way especially in the era of free agency where it's tough to keep teams together? Maybe he's ahead of his time.......Maybe he sees it differently, the right way and we're wrong?

We've always held superstar athletes to the standard that they should be loyal to a specific team and city regardless of how much the team upholds their end of the bargain in terms of putting them in the best position to win. I've watched Billy King waste Allen Iverson's entire career in Philly doing shyt like drafting Larry Hughes over Dirk and Paul Pierce. No matter how much the 76ers disappointed it was all good because Allen put asses in the seats......We all saw what happened to Kevin Garnett in Minnesota.

Lebron or any superstar playing a team substantially increases the valuation of a franchise and automatically makes any team in the league a contender, yet his legacy alone is hurt by losing......in addition to being underpaid in terms of being the best basketball player in the world & keeping the league afloat........He's taking the ball and putting it on his court and honestly as a guy who defends players over billionaire owners I'm starting to respect the fukk out of this. He's singlehandedly changing the rules...It's almost like Suge when he first started Death Row, he wasn't taking shyt from these Labels, he wanted his masters, Interscope gave him his masters, aight we can do business......or No Limit/Cash Money saying fukk your imprint deal, just distribute us and give us that 85/15 split nikka......Players are now exercising the little power they have. No longer can a team sit up here and hire incompetent gms and coaches, not make the right moves, mess up drafts and free agent signings for years upon because the valuation of the your franchise is in jeopardy when your star players leaves and throws you in the bushes just as you would a player who can't play. Seems like some bytch made chip chasing stack the deck create whole team of players with all 99s video game shyt but he's loyal to HIMSELF and winning and I've come to respect that. He doesn't owe loyalty to a team he singlehandedly makes better and increases the valuation of.......The rules have changed.

At the end of the day, bringing 3 different teams to an NBA finals isn't shyt to sneeze at......It sounds easy with a stacked roster but you still have to do the work, fight through the regular season, avoid injuries, have good chemistry and make the shyt happen. We all can name plenty of teams in every sport that seemed stacked that didn't. So fukk it, go to Cleveland, Phoenix, LA Clippers, whatever.......he gets them another chip and the Heat fall off like Cleveland did when he left or Orlando did when Shaq left.....and his legacy doesn't change for me. He's a great player that singlehandedly makes teams contenders that changed the way we look at how players should provide service/loyalty towards teams. We all knew it was a business when it came to gms/owners trading players (which involves them changing their living situation at the drop of a fukking dime), cutting players (players losing their job) now the shoe is on the other foot.

great post

 

[Swagnificent]

This shyt is setting up perfectly for a return to Cleveland


the prodigal son returns

they'll make movies About this

no way he does that. I'd lose all respect for him if he did. After what Gilbert did and how the cac fans reacted, there is no way he goes back. maybe if Gilbert sold the team there would be a chance, but there is no way a man with an ounce of self-respect would put himself back in a situation like that after the way they treated him for doing something he had a right to do.

Bron is either going to the Clips, Rockets, or Lakers.

 

[Swagnificent]

I think LeBron would've won a title with the Cavs the next year had he stayed in Cleveland

he lost to the Mavs with Bosh/Wade, the fukk would lead you to believe he coulda won with the Cavs?