Sources: Trump will ask Congress, not Mexico, to pay for border wall
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dangerranger
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You're not speculating you're trolling.
If you wanted to speculate anything then ask how the fukk Trump gets Mexico to pay for something they don't want/care about?
does it still count if congress pays in pesos 
Tarifs most likely
New negotiations for nafta
Plenty of ways
If they cancel nafta and put up tarifs then Mexico will lose bigly
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
No. Campaign slogans are not the same thing as specific campaign promises.Kind of like "Yes we can!"?.
"But you already knew that."
No. Campaign slogans are not the same thing as specific campaign promises.
"But you already knew that."
Oh, so like an even more important campaign promise like premiums not going up for insurance?
.Some people probably believed the wall would be built and that Mexico would pay for it, but many know that was mainly a rallying call.
The wall could be built and Mexico could "pay" for it if trade deals change and this country comes out on top.
I created a thread a few months ago concerning the situation at the border with Haitians (and Africans) that is growing worse. California is very liberal and may accept the crystal meth or 1/3 of the US Mexican immigrants from the border; but certainly not Haitians - especially since it just removed the Maximum Family Grant (MFG) and no longer caps welfare benefits for families who have additional children while currently on assistance. Also, refugees and asylum seekers are qualified for Calworks, in the largest welfare state in the nation. Anchor babies galore! Nope; watch how fast they curb this issue and secure TJ and Otay the border, and they are arriving at Yuma AZ too.
Can't continue with distinction in asylum like "wet foot/dry foot policy" like the treatment of Cuban vs. Haitian refugees in Florida. Let these Catholic Haitians join the Catholic poor Hispanics come together Voltron style in a state that is non-Hispanic Whites are already a minority to non-Whites. It will be a turn of the tides like Beirut during the Palestinian influx joining with the native Muslims.
A changing border : Barricades won’t solve tough new challenges at the Southwest frontier
The surge of people from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean who have been trekking in ever-greater numbers across the Americas in hopes of reaching the United States presents the new U.S. administration with a conundrum.
As a more diverse group of immigrants from around the globe seeks to enter the U.S. through the Southwest border, deciding whom to let in — and whom to send back — is getting increasingly complicated.
Many of these new migrants are fleeing faraway conflicts and violent political turmoil; they may have taken arduous journeys and spent their life savings to come to America. But figuring out who is truly fleeing repression and who is actually coming here for economic reasons — as many are — is vexingly difficult, given the increasing numbers and the limited resources available to adjudicate their claims.
Letting in too many people, by lowering the bar for political asylum, will only encourage more people seeking economic opportunity to try to enter the U.S., some immigration experts worry. They note that the U.S. already lets in a million immigrants a year legally and — despite the plight of many who have made treacherous journeys to get here — can’t afford to admit everyone.
About 7,300 people from outside Latin America were apprehended while trying to slip across the southern border in the 11 months ending in August, while an additional 48,000 showed up at official ports of entry without the necessary paperwork and were deemed inadmissible.
When ICE notifies the Catholic Charities Dioceses of San Diego about a Haitian woman and child who are about to be released on humanitarian grounds, there is federal funding available to find them a place to stay or pay for a plane ticket to where they might have friends or family, said Robert Moser, the group’s executive director. The same is not true if the people released are from Nigeria.
“Both have the same needs. Both are coming for the same reasons, but the place of your birth determines what you are eligible for,” Moser said.
In the absence of more generous government policies, he said, aid groups hope that local communities will step in to provide for those in need. (me: Unfortunately, NOT going to happen the the few comments on the LA Times article and from residing here)
“People are going to come no matter what … because their choices are a lot worse if they stay,” Moser said. “If people with good hearts act in a good way, they can be an alternative to hateful rhetoric.”
Haitian immigrants freed in California for lack of jail space
A U.S. government official told The Associated Press that the decision to free Haitians arriving in Arizona and California is in response to a lack of jail space. The official said releasing immigrants with orders to report later to immigration court is a tactic used when detention space is scarce, under certain humanitarian conditions or as part of efforts to keep families together.
Before the Haitians are released, they are subjected to a criminal background and national security check. The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and insisted on speaking on condition of anonymity.
The influx of migrants and lack of jail space on the border will be one of the most immediate immigration challenges for President-elect Donald Trump, whose hard-line rhetoric on the issue won over conservatives and contributed to his historic upset last week. Trump vowed to build a wall on the border and carry out mass deportations.
As CBP start apprehending more darker faces that claim "credible fear"; Congress will be at the legislation table surrounding Trump like this:
Can't continue with distinction in asylum like "wet foot/dry foot policy" like the treatment of Cuban vs. Haitian refugees in Florida. Let these Catholic Haitians join the Catholic poor Hispanics come together Voltron style in a state that is non-Hispanic Whites are already a minority to non-Whites. It will be a turn of the tides like Beirut during the Palestinian influx joining with the native Muslims.
A changing border : Barricades won’t solve tough new challenges at the Southwest frontier
The surge of people from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean who have been trekking in ever-greater numbers across the Americas in hopes of reaching the United States presents the new U.S. administration with a conundrum.
As a more diverse group of immigrants from around the globe seeks to enter the U.S. through the Southwest border, deciding whom to let in — and whom to send back — is getting increasingly complicated.
Many of these new migrants are fleeing faraway conflicts and violent political turmoil; they may have taken arduous journeys and spent their life savings to come to America. But figuring out who is truly fleeing repression and who is actually coming here for economic reasons — as many are — is vexingly difficult, given the increasing numbers and the limited resources available to adjudicate their claims.
Letting in too many people, by lowering the bar for political asylum, will only encourage more people seeking economic opportunity to try to enter the U.S., some immigration experts worry. They note that the U.S. already lets in a million immigrants a year legally and — despite the plight of many who have made treacherous journeys to get here — can’t afford to admit everyone.
About 7,300 people from outside Latin America were apprehended while trying to slip across the southern border in the 11 months ending in August, while an additional 48,000 showed up at official ports of entry without the necessary paperwork and were deemed inadmissible.
When ICE notifies the Catholic Charities Dioceses of San Diego about a Haitian woman and child who are about to be released on humanitarian grounds, there is federal funding available to find them a place to stay or pay for a plane ticket to where they might have friends or family, said Robert Moser, the group’s executive director. The same is not true if the people released are from Nigeria.
“Both have the same needs. Both are coming for the same reasons, but the place of your birth determines what you are eligible for,” Moser said.
In the absence of more generous government policies, he said, aid groups hope that local communities will step in to provide for those in need. (me: Unfortunately, NOT going to happen the the few comments on the LA Times article and from residing here)
“People are going to come no matter what … because their choices are a lot worse if they stay,” Moser said. “If people with good hearts act in a good way, they can be an alternative to hateful rhetoric.”
Haitian immigrants freed in California for lack of jail space
A U.S. government official told The Associated Press that the decision to free Haitians arriving in Arizona and California is in response to a lack of jail space. The official said releasing immigrants with orders to report later to immigration court is a tactic used when detention space is scarce, under certain humanitarian conditions or as part of efforts to keep families together.
Before the Haitians are released, they are subjected to a criminal background and national security check. The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and insisted on speaking on condition of anonymity.
The influx of migrants and lack of jail space on the border will be one of the most immediate immigration challenges for President-elect Donald Trump, whose hard-line rhetoric on the issue won over conservatives and contributed to his historic upset last week. Trump vowed to build a wall on the border and carry out mass deportations.
As CBP start apprehending more darker faces that claim "credible fear"; Congress will be at the legislation table surrounding Trump like this:
Can you post the link to that earlier thread?I created a thread a few months ago concerning the situation at the border with Haitians (and Africans) that is growing worse. California is very liberal and may accept the crystal meth or 1/3 of the US Mexican immigrants from the border; but certainly not Haitians - especially since it just removed the Maximum Family Grant (MFG) and no longer caps welfare benefits for families who have additional children while currently on assistance. Also, refugees and asylum seekers are qualified for Calworks, in the largest welfare state in the nation. Anchor babies galore! Nope; watch how fast they curb this issue and secure TJ and Otay the border, and they are arriving at Yuma AZ too.
Can't continue with distinction in asylum like "wet foot/dry foot policy" like the treatment of Cuban vs. Haitian refugees in Florida. Let these Catholic Haitians join the Catholic poor Hispanics come together Voltron style in a state that is non-Hispanic Whites are already a minority to non-Whites. It will be a turn of the tides like Beirut during the Palestinian influx joining with the native Muslims.
A changing border : Barricades won’t solve tough new challenges at the Southwest frontier
The surge of people from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean who have been trekking in ever-greater numbers across the Americas in hopes of reaching the United States presents the new U.S. administration with a conundrum.
As a more diverse group of immigrants from around the globe seeks to enter the U.S. through the Southwest border, deciding whom to let in — and whom to send back — is getting increasingly complicated.
Many of these new migrants are fleeing faraway conflicts and violent political turmoil; they may have taken arduous journeys and spent their life savings to come to America. But figuring out who is truly fleeing repression and who is actually coming here for economic reasons — as many are — is vexingly difficult, given the increasing numbers and the limited resources available to adjudicate their claims.
Letting in too many people, by lowering the bar for political asylum, will only encourage more people seeking economic opportunity to try to enter the U.S., some immigration experts worry. They note that the U.S. already lets in a million immigrants a year legally and — despite the plight of many who have made treacherous journeys to get here — can’t afford to admit everyone.
About 7,300 people from outside Latin America were apprehended while trying to slip across the southern border in the 11 months ending in August, while an additional 48,000 showed up at official ports of entry without the necessary paperwork and were deemed inadmissible.
When ICE notifies the Catholic Charities Dioceses of San Diego about a Haitian woman and child who are about to be released on humanitarian grounds, there is federal funding available to find them a place to stay or pay for a plane ticket to where they might have friends or family, said Robert Moser, the group’s executive director. The same is not true if the people released are from Nigeria.
“Both have the same needs. Both are coming for the same reasons, but the place of your birth determines what you are eligible for,” Moser said.
In the absence of more generous government policies, he said, aid groups hope that local communities will step in to provide for those in need. (me: Unfortunately, NOT going to happen the the few comments on the LA Times article and from residing here)
“People are going to come no matter what … because their choices are a lot worse if they stay,” Moser said. “If people with good hearts act in a good way, they can be an alternative to hateful rhetoric.”
Haitian immigrants freed in California for lack of jail space
A U.S. government official told The Associated Press that the decision to free Haitians arriving in Arizona and California is in response to a lack of jail space. The official said releasing immigrants with orders to report later to immigration court is a tactic used when detention space is scarce, under certain humanitarian conditions or as part of efforts to keep families together.
Before the Haitians are released, they are subjected to a criminal background and national security check. The official was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and insisted on speaking on condition of anonymity.
The influx of migrants and lack of jail space on the border will be one of the most immediate immigration challenges for President-elect Donald Trump, whose hard-line rhetoric on the issue won over conservatives and contributed to his historic upset last week. Trump vowed to build a wall on the border and carry out mass deportations.
As CBP start apprehending more darker faces that claim "credible fear"; Congress will be at the legislation table surrounding Trump like this:
Influx Of Haitian And African Migrants In Mexico Now Deemed A Humanitarian Crisis
It was closed for additional comment due to a troll and posters being butthurt about my so-called condescending intro - though it was 100% true