Spike Lee goes in about Gentrification in Brooklyn
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jilla82
Veteran
No, you teach people the game.
Spike could have bought cheap property in Brooklyn before gentrification and kept the rent rates the same...but he didnt.
He's all talk. He purchased property and then flipped it for a profit just like the people he's complaining about.
Same goes for any well off people making money off of this, and then complaining about it.
If he cared so much he should have been telling folks to purchase their homes...complaining after the fact is just a show for him to stroke his ego.
This has been a capitalistic country from its inception...you cant complain about the game when its always been the same.
He's doing that in the interview. and you dont know he does behind the scene....
jilla82
Veteran
read that article someone posted. They go through property Spike has bought and sold.
JasonSJackson
Jah Sun Ma'at Ra
The only people that got sonned in this are the "black" people.
Spike talking all that "you can't just come here and dictate what goes on in this neighborhood" and that's exactly what the whites are doing. nikka even gave examples of them doing just that. He also complaining about the public services being better now then they were before aint changing the fact that the city shytted on nikkas.
And the other nikka talkin bout the few homeowners that were able to capatilize and now have to find new neighborhoods to live in is another simpleminded nikka.
Both these nikkas up here talking about shyt that aint changing nothing about what these white people did and are still doing in areas they want to take over.
What solution to the problem did you get from listening to this?
Exactly.
fukk outta here with all this ranting. When you got a solution then open up your mouth.
Spike talking all that "you can't just come here and dictate what goes on in this neighborhood" and that's exactly what the whites are doing. nikka even gave examples of them doing just that. He also complaining about the public services being better now then they were before aint changing the fact that the city shytted on nikkas.
And the other nikka talkin bout the few homeowners that were able to capatilize and now have to find new neighborhoods to live in is another simpleminded nikka.
Both these nikkas up here talking about shyt that aint changing nothing about what these white people did and are still doing in areas they want to take over.
What solution to the problem did you get from listening to this?
Exactly.
fukk outta here with all this ranting. When you got a solution then open up your mouth.
JasonSJackson
Jah Sun Ma'at Ra
same thing that happened in DC....
aqualung
I wear a crown of curls.
Spike Lee has been talking this way since 2012 at least.
Spike Lee did not bother to clean it up much for Anderson Cooper. He ain't retract jackshyt.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/28/us/spike-lee-block-vandalism/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Next time he sees a yt baby riding a $600 stroller down 125th Street at 3am, Spike Lee WILL SUMMON THE AUTHORITIES. -_-
LSA thread -- http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php?p=16507209&posted=1#post16507209
Spike Lee did not bother to clean it up much for Anderson Cooper. He ain't retract jackshyt.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/28/us/spike-lee-block-vandalism/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Next time he sees a yt baby riding a $600 stroller down 125th Street at 3am, Spike Lee WILL SUMMON THE AUTHORITIES. -_-
LSA thread -- http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php?p=16507209&posted=1#post16507209
Gentrification doesn't always involve white people. It's a class/money thing. There are many BLACKS with money returning to Harlem. Gentifiers can be of any race.
As for Spike Lee, dude was born in GEORGIA. Like HALF the people in NYC, he was not even born here (and that extends to many of the poor as well). Dude is a transplant that is into the arts and wears thick black frame glasses...he just beat the "whites" by a couple decades.
The people living in the crappy neighborhoods did nothing all these years to make their neighborhood better, now that other people are coming in and making it better, they complain???? Low income people don't even have the decency to keep their buildings clean.
And as far as culture, you have got to be kidding? like Bushwick had any kind of culture you would want to live around..
When your entire life (and your family's going back generations) has been somewhat supported or even completely funded by the government and landlords who are stuck with you because of draconian laws, this is what happens eventually. Money talks baby, everyone knows that.
Stop sitting around complaining about the day someone might come with a fist full of dollars to boot you out of your Section 8 slice of heaven.
Maybe the short racist director should focus his energy on helping his fellow "original" Brooklynites with his hard earned cash rather than bi*chin' and complaining. Collectively I'm sure they can figure out a way to better themselves.
Spike Lee would not have been complaining if the city bulldozed some private homes to build a new public housing unit, that's for sure and I doubt he has any sympathy for the Lenape people, if he even knows who they are.
As far as neighborhoods getting better services? Middle class people of any color tend to be quicker to speak up and make the system work for them. Especially if you're a homeowner--you have a vested interest in making the neighborhood look good, improving the school ratings, all these things that will pay off for you.
Whereas in my observation poverty fosters a passive mentality, a "you can't win no matter what you do" idea that can be very entrenched and difficult to shake off. Newcomers bring in their skills in mobilizing people to complain and hold politicians accountable. First thing that they do is take over the Community Board.
As for Spike Lee, dude was born in GEORGIA. Like HALF the people in NYC, he was not even born here (and that extends to many of the poor as well). Dude is a transplant that is into the arts and wears thick black frame glasses...he just beat the "whites" by a couple decades.
The people living in the crappy neighborhoods did nothing all these years to make their neighborhood better, now that other people are coming in and making it better, they complain???? Low income people don't even have the decency to keep their buildings clean.
And as far as culture, you have got to be kidding? like Bushwick had any kind of culture you would want to live around..
When your entire life (and your family's going back generations) has been somewhat supported or even completely funded by the government and landlords who are stuck with you because of draconian laws, this is what happens eventually. Money talks baby, everyone knows that.
Stop sitting around complaining about the day someone might come with a fist full of dollars to boot you out of your Section 8 slice of heaven.
Maybe the short racist director should focus his energy on helping his fellow "original" Brooklynites with his hard earned cash rather than bi*chin' and complaining. Collectively I'm sure they can figure out a way to better themselves.
Spike Lee would not have been complaining if the city bulldozed some private homes to build a new public housing unit, that's for sure and I doubt he has any sympathy for the Lenape people, if he even knows who they are.
As far as neighborhoods getting better services? Middle class people of any color tend to be quicker to speak up and make the system work for them. Especially if you're a homeowner--you have a vested interest in making the neighborhood look good, improving the school ratings, all these things that will pay off for you.
Whereas in my observation poverty fosters a passive mentality, a "you can't win no matter what you do" idea that can be very entrenched and difficult to shake off. Newcomers bring in their skills in mobilizing people to complain and hold politicians accountable. First thing that they do is take over the Community Board.
The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
I blame jay z 
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Cities Mobilize to Help Those Threatened by Gentrification
By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
MARCH 3, 2014
Jacy Webster applied for a cap on his property taxes after the value of his home in Philadelphia quintupled amid a flurry of new construction.
PHILADELPHIA — Cities that have worked for years to attract young professionals who might have once moved to the suburbs are now experimenting with ways to protect a group long deemed expendable — working- and lower-middle class homeowners threatened by gentrification.
The initiatives, planned or underway in Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, Pittsburgh and other cities, are centered on reducing or freezing property taxes for such homeowners in an effort to promote neighborhood stability, preserve character and provide a dividend of sorts to those who have stayed through years of high crime, population loss and declining property values, officials say.
Newcomers, whose vitality is critical to cities, are hardly being turned away. But officials say a balance is needed, given the attention and government funding being spent to draw young professionals — from tax breaks for luxury condominium buildings to new bike lanes, dog parks and athletic fields.
“We feel the people who toughed it out should be rewarded,” said Darrell L. Clarke, president of the Philadelphia City Council, which last year approved legislation to limit property tax increases for longtime residents. “And we feel it is incumbent upon us to protect them.”
Photo
Cities like Philadelphia are now experimenting with ways to protect a group long deemed expendable — working- and lower-middle class homeowners threatened by gentrification. Credit Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times
In doing so, cities are turning urban redevelopment policy on its head and shunning millions in property tax revenue that could be used to restore municipal services that were trimmed during the recession because of budget cuts, including rehiring police officers.
A decision to reduce property taxes can be risky because such levies account for at least 50 percent of operating budgets in most American cities and sometimes provide as much as 80 percent of a city’s revenue.
But even Detroit, where a declining tax base has been at the core of the bankrupt city’s troubles, recently announced plans to cut property tax rates.
Last month, Mike Duggan, Detroit’s new mayor, said property taxes would be cut by up to 20 percent to levels that more accurately represent the value of homes in the city. The reduction could cost Detroit as much as $15 million annually in revenue.
The tax adjustments are part of a broader strategy by cities to aid homeowners — who continue to struggle financially since the home mortgage crisis. In Richmond, Calif., lawmakers are attempting to use eminent domain to seize underwater mortgages to try to help homeowners keep their houses.
Housing experts say the arrival of newcomers to formerly working-class areas — from the Mission District in San Francisco to the Shaw neighborhood in Washington — is distinct from previous influxes over the past 30 years because new residents are now far more likely to choose to move into new condominiums or lofts instead of into existing housing, making the changes more disruptive.
“This latest wave of gentrification has happened very quickly, and cities are cognizant to keep from turning over entirely,” said Lisa Sturtevant, executive director of the Center for Housing Policy, a nonprofit research group. “And cities where property values are up and budgets are generally more stable have the wherewithal to provide tax breaks.”
Ms. Sturtevant said that given that many of the younger, newer arrivals do not necessarily plan to stay for long, cities are making a sensible economic choice.
“There’s less personal investment and less incentive to stay, so cities are saying, ‘Let’s invest in the stayers,’ ” she said.
In Boston, which an analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland last year found had the highest gentrifying pressure in the nation — followed by Seattle, New York, San Francisco, Washington and Atlanta — concluded that about one-fourth the city’s population lived in gentrifying neighborhoods.
Photo
Rene Goodwin, seen here, saw the value of her home rise to $281,000 from $90,000 in a single year. Credit Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times
“Property values are increasing exponentially, and longtime homeowners are victims of the success story,” said Stephen J. Murphy, a city councilor in Boston who co-introduced legislation allowing residents who have owned homes for more than 10 years and whose property taxes have increased by 10 percent or more to defer property tax payments until they sell their home. The bill, approved by the City Council, is pending the approval of the state legislature.
But Philadelphia, undergoing a resurgence during which the city has had its first population increase since the 1950s, appears to have enacted the most comprehensive measures to safeguard longtime homeowners.
The first, the Homestead Exemption, allows most homeowners to reduce the assessed value of their house by $30,000 for tax purposes, while a second law, called Gentrification Protection or LOOP, short for Longtime Owner Occupants Program, is more narrowly focused on protecting homeowners from increases to their property tax bills because of gentrification.
The program generally allows homeowners who have lived in homes for 10 years or more and whose household income is less than about $110,000 annually to cap and freeze their assessments for 10 years if the assessments increased by 300 percent or more as part of the city’s new property tax formula.
“Philadelphia is a city of neighborhoods, and the reason people want to move to our neighborhoods is because of the character they have,” said Mark Squilla, a council member who said it had been common in his district for home assessments to surge by as much as 10 times in a single year. “Gentrification is a great thing. But we have to keep a handle on it.”
Rene Goodwin, who lives in the same South Philadelphia neighborhood her grandparents lived in during the 1920s, has seen the value of her home rise to $281,000 from $90,000 in a single year.
“To keep an urban area vital, there has to be an infusion of new people and buildings, but that doesn’t mean you destroy people who have kept up the neighborhood, who’ve swept the sidewalk,” she said. “It’s that commitment that has made developers interested in the neighborhood — and then you’re going to penalize the people who’ve stayed?”
Jacy Webster, 56, who lives on what had until recently been an Italian-American block in South Philadelphia, said he had come to feel like a stranger.
The new arrivals, mostly young families, seem to move a step faster than he does or to not see him. Old courtesies like waving hello and casual chats have become rare.
“I don’t belong anymore,” he said.
The changes have meant that the assessment on his house has more than quintupled during the past year — to $250,000 from $45,000 — which he said might force him to move and perhaps rent his home out if he does not qualify for LOOP. The Feb. 17 deadline to apply has passed, and he is waiting to hear from the city.
Mr. Webster said, however, that there was at least one advantage to being surrounded by wealthier neighbors: “It’s actually safer than it’s ever been.”
Cities Mobilize to Help Those Threatened by Gentrification
By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
MARCH 3, 2014
Jacy Webster applied for a cap on his property taxes after the value of his home in Philadelphia quintupled amid a flurry of new construction.
PHILADELPHIA — Cities that have worked for years to attract young professionals who might have once moved to the suburbs are now experimenting with ways to protect a group long deemed expendable — working- and lower-middle class homeowners threatened by gentrification.
The initiatives, planned or underway in Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, Pittsburgh and other cities, are centered on reducing or freezing property taxes for such homeowners in an effort to promote neighborhood stability, preserve character and provide a dividend of sorts to those who have stayed through years of high crime, population loss and declining property values, officials say.
Newcomers, whose vitality is critical to cities, are hardly being turned away. But officials say a balance is needed, given the attention and government funding being spent to draw young professionals — from tax breaks for luxury condominium buildings to new bike lanes, dog parks and athletic fields.
“We feel the people who toughed it out should be rewarded,” said Darrell L. Clarke, president of the Philadelphia City Council, which last year approved legislation to limit property tax increases for longtime residents. “And we feel it is incumbent upon us to protect them.”
Photo
Cities like Philadelphia are now experimenting with ways to protect a group long deemed expendable — working- and lower-middle class homeowners threatened by gentrification. Credit Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times
In doing so, cities are turning urban redevelopment policy on its head and shunning millions in property tax revenue that could be used to restore municipal services that were trimmed during the recession because of budget cuts, including rehiring police officers.
A decision to reduce property taxes can be risky because such levies account for at least 50 percent of operating budgets in most American cities and sometimes provide as much as 80 percent of a city’s revenue.
But even Detroit, where a declining tax base has been at the core of the bankrupt city’s troubles, recently announced plans to cut property tax rates.
Last month, Mike Duggan, Detroit’s new mayor, said property taxes would be cut by up to 20 percent to levels that more accurately represent the value of homes in the city. The reduction could cost Detroit as much as $15 million annually in revenue.
The tax adjustments are part of a broader strategy by cities to aid homeowners — who continue to struggle financially since the home mortgage crisis. In Richmond, Calif., lawmakers are attempting to use eminent domain to seize underwater mortgages to try to help homeowners keep their houses.
Housing experts say the arrival of newcomers to formerly working-class areas — from the Mission District in San Francisco to the Shaw neighborhood in Washington — is distinct from previous influxes over the past 30 years because new residents are now far more likely to choose to move into new condominiums or lofts instead of into existing housing, making the changes more disruptive.
“This latest wave of gentrification has happened very quickly, and cities are cognizant to keep from turning over entirely,” said Lisa Sturtevant, executive director of the Center for Housing Policy, a nonprofit research group. “And cities where property values are up and budgets are generally more stable have the wherewithal to provide tax breaks.”
Ms. Sturtevant said that given that many of the younger, newer arrivals do not necessarily plan to stay for long, cities are making a sensible economic choice.
“There’s less personal investment and less incentive to stay, so cities are saying, ‘Let’s invest in the stayers,’ ” she said.
In Boston, which an analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland last year found had the highest gentrifying pressure in the nation — followed by Seattle, New York, San Francisco, Washington and Atlanta — concluded that about one-fourth the city’s population lived in gentrifying neighborhoods.
Photo
Rene Goodwin, seen here, saw the value of her home rise to $281,000 from $90,000 in a single year. Credit Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times
“Property values are increasing exponentially, and longtime homeowners are victims of the success story,” said Stephen J. Murphy, a city councilor in Boston who co-introduced legislation allowing residents who have owned homes for more than 10 years and whose property taxes have increased by 10 percent or more to defer property tax payments until they sell their home. The bill, approved by the City Council, is pending the approval of the state legislature.
But Philadelphia, undergoing a resurgence during which the city has had its first population increase since the 1950s, appears to have enacted the most comprehensive measures to safeguard longtime homeowners.
The first, the Homestead Exemption, allows most homeowners to reduce the assessed value of their house by $30,000 for tax purposes, while a second law, called Gentrification Protection or LOOP, short for Longtime Owner Occupants Program, is more narrowly focused on protecting homeowners from increases to their property tax bills because of gentrification.
The program generally allows homeowners who have lived in homes for 10 years or more and whose household income is less than about $110,000 annually to cap and freeze their assessments for 10 years if the assessments increased by 300 percent or more as part of the city’s new property tax formula.
“Philadelphia is a city of neighborhoods, and the reason people want to move to our neighborhoods is because of the character they have,” said Mark Squilla, a council member who said it had been common in his district for home assessments to surge by as much as 10 times in a single year. “Gentrification is a great thing. But we have to keep a handle on it.”
Rene Goodwin, who lives in the same South Philadelphia neighborhood her grandparents lived in during the 1920s, has seen the value of her home rise to $281,000 from $90,000 in a single year.
“To keep an urban area vital, there has to be an infusion of new people and buildings, but that doesn’t mean you destroy people who have kept up the neighborhood, who’ve swept the sidewalk,” she said. “It’s that commitment that has made developers interested in the neighborhood — and then you’re going to penalize the people who’ve stayed?”
Jacy Webster, 56, who lives on what had until recently been an Italian-American block in South Philadelphia, said he had come to feel like a stranger.
The new arrivals, mostly young families, seem to move a step faster than he does or to not see him. Old courtesies like waving hello and casual chats have become rare.
“I don’t belong anymore,” he said.
The changes have meant that the assessment on his house has more than quintupled during the past year — to $250,000 from $45,000 — which he said might force him to move and perhaps rent his home out if he does not qualify for LOOP. The Feb. 17 deadline to apply has passed, and he is waiting to hear from the city.
Mr. Webster said, however, that there was at least one advantage to being surrounded by wealthier neighbors: “It’s actually safer than it’s ever been.”
....gentrification is no different than when they Columbus'd the Native Americans
Yeah, but if ownership was happeneing back in the 80s when shyt was dirt cheap, then gentrification wouldn't be so big in the first place
Black folk gotta start practice ownership where ever we go to. Can't be renting for generations on end and still feel like you have the same rights as a person that busted their ass to own a place.
Besides, no one ever came up with the solution to OWN anything in these public hearings. Only talking about why is rent so high.
If people cared about the next generation and their lives to be easier, they would try to find a place where they can pass down to their kids,rent-free.
It can happen. The whites that move in gentrified NYC are not exactly the ones that settle down and have families. They still on that single life well into their 30s and 40s nowadays. Having a family is an afterthought with them, so the city is a perfect place for them to live in.but can the population of blacks ever really decline anytime soon in NYC??..............................
if you include Hispanic blacks (Dominicans, black-Panamanians, etc) to the list???.......
I know .......... i'm cheating ... ...
am I??