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CALL CP3 RECOVERING FROM A KNEE INJURY PRIME FORM
BECAUSE YOU GOOGLED HIS AGE
INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY WATCHING BASKETBALL
DURING THAT PERIOD.
Spin: How Many Tiltles Does Prime CP3, Wade & Bosh Win?
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CALL CP3 RECOVERING FROM A KNEE INJURY PRIME FORM
BECAUSE YOU GOOGLED HIS AGE
INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY WATCHING BASKETBALL
DURING THAT PERIOD.
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Go find a better point guard from 2007-14. There isn't one. Whether he was the same guy athletically after his knee injury in 2010 is irrelevant.
CALL CP3 RECOVERING FROM A KNEE INJURY PRIME FORM
BECAUSE YOU GOOGLED HIS AGE
INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY WATCHING BASKETBALL
DURING THAT PERIOD.
Wade wouldn't have to take a step back cause he's the better player. Like when Wade took a step back to Lebron. It would be more so on Cp3 to fit in with Wade than the other way around and prime cp3 was talented enough to do so. Before lebron played with Wade he had never played with a ball dominant player either. Lebron also didn't play off ball has a spacer for a large period of time either
Wade would have to step back because Paul is at his best on the ball, he is not like LeBron either in that you can play him out of position for advantageous matchups too. Wade's first year in the league he played with Odom, Jones and Butler, playing off ball wasn't some foreign concept to him, it's just that LeBron is a drive and kick player which is what he is, so they needed to adjust the roster. I don't see how they win with CP3 instead of Bron, LeBron's versatility is a large part of why they were so good.
Cp3 at least had the tools to be a great off ball weapon if he had to be (shooting). I'm not a cp3 stan but I respect his game and his bball intellect enough to think he'd find a way to fit in with prime Wade and bosh. And prime CP3 was a great scorer, that just wasn't his priority. Obviously taking the ball out of his hands would take him some time to get used too but it's not like CP couldn't get buckets. Prime bosh is a better player than Blake griffin period. Blake is a better playmaker and that's it. Bosh can create his own offense easier and with more variety than Blake. And with CP istead of Bron Bosh can play his full game. Even bosh came out and said it's hard to adjust to playing with lebron. He essentially became a spot up shooter with lebron to create space. With CP, he can play his game. And let's not act like Blake hasn't had great seasons with CP3. He's just soft. You're underestimating how great prime cp3 was
LeBron shot 37% from three with the Heat, that's including his first year where he shot 33%, how much better is CP3 going to shoot than that? Especially since catch and shoot isn't something he's done in his career....ever. Prime CP3 is not a great scorer, we're talking about a dude that hasn't scored more than 35 points in a playoff game, he's a sometimes scorer, LeBron on the other hand is one of the best scorers in playoffs history while also being damn near as good of a playmaker as Paul. LeBron averages 28/9/7 for his career in the playoffs, while CP3 is at 21/9/5, in what world do you replace 28/9/7 with 21/9/4 and have the same level of success? Especially when LeBron was a better team defender. Some of those games the Heat played required LeBron to get 40 or more for them to win, Paul has never scored 40 in a playoff game
No, Bosh would not be able to play his game, coming from Toronto he was an mid-post guy that played in isolation, there's no way in hell CP3 is going to let him do that when we see him with Blake who isn't allowed to play his game either. You mean to tell me he'd learn how to play with 2 ball dominant players like Bosh and Wade when he still hasn't figured out how to do it with 1 (Blake)? In your description of how it would work, Wade is dominating the ball and Bosh is also playing his Toronto mid-pst game, really?
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It doesn't have to be one dominates and one doesn't. There can be a balance between both. I'm not saying cp3 is just gonna sit on the wing the whole time. He's still initiate the offense more times than not but he'd also give Wade his opportunities to do what he does. I'm not trying to agrue cp3>> than lebron bruh. That's not the point of this discussion. I'm just saying a prime cp3, Wade and bosh most definitely win a ring together. You keep being up Blake like Blake hasn't had fantastic seasons with cp3Wade would have to step back because Paul is at his best on the ball, he is not like LeBron either in that you can play him out of position for advantageous matchups too. Wade's first year in the league he played with Odom, Jones and Butler, playing off ball wasn't some foreign concept to him, it's just that LeBron is a drive and kick player which is what he is, so they needed to adjust the roster. I don't see how they win with CP3 instead of Bron, LeBron's versatility is a large part of why they were so good.
LeBron shot 37% from three with the Heat, that's including his first year where he shot 33%, how much better is CP3 going to shoot than that? Especially since catch and shoot isn't something he's done in his career....ever. Prime CP3 is not a great scorer, we're talking about a dude that hasn't scored more than 35 points in a playoff game, he's a sometimes scorer, LeBron on the other hand is one of the best scorers in playoffs history while also being damn near as good of a playmaker as Paul. LeBron averages 28/9/7 for his career in the playoffs, while CP3 is at 21/9/5, in what world do you replace 28/9/7 with 21/9/4 and have the same level of success? Especially when LeBron was a better team defender. Some of those games the Heat played required LeBron to get 40 or more for them to win, Paul has never scored 40 in a playoff game
No, Bosh would not be able to play his game, coming from Toronto he was an mid-post guy that played in isolation, there's no way in hell CP3 is going to let him do that when we see him with Blake who isn't allowed to play his game either. You mean to tell me he'd learn how to play with 2 ball dominant players like Bosh and Wade when he still hasn't figured out how to do it with 1 (Blake)? In your description of how it would work, Wade is dominating the ball and Bosh is also playing his Toronto mid-pst game, really?
. Cp3 is a better player tha Blake and was more established when they came together so the onus was on Blake to change his game for cp3. In this situation cp3 would be the one who would have to change his game to play with 2 superior players. And I don't see why he wouldn't be able to do so. I don't see why cp3 wouldn't let Bosh cook in the midpost at all
. The reason lebron didn't let Bosh cook in the post is because he needs the spacing for driving lanes. You bring up lebrons 3 point shooting but you don't acknowledge cp3 in his prime being a top 3 midrange shooter in the NBA. Idk what to tell you breh, Prime cp3 was a great scorer. It just wasn't his mo
. You keep saying since Paul has never shown xyz, he couldn't do it with Wade and bosh. Same thing was said before lebron went to Miami. I believe a prime cp3 was a great ebough player to effectively adjust his game to 2 better players. Do you truly not believe a prime CP3 had the ability to be a great catch and shoot player?? Players always adjust when playing with greater players. Cp3 would be the same You keep making this a Bron vs CP3 thing when it's not. Op said prime Wade. Lebron barely had prime Wade. A team with all 3 of those players in there prime would be too much to handle. And a prime Wade and bosh does not need cp3 out there averaging 28 a game to win a ring
The injuries to all three wouldn't be overcome. I'm honestly not even sure if they even make the Finals
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CP3 wouldn't beat the Celtics or Bulls and I'm not sure if they even beat the Pacers...
.CP3 wouldn't beat the Celtics or Bulls and I'm not sure if they even beat the Pacers...
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Every keeps acting like this is a CP3 comes in and directly steps into lebrons shoes
The whole aproach and roster would be different. They'd have to play a whole different style of basketball.
But at the end of the day y'all are telling me, in a vacuum, a team with prime Paul, prime Wade, and prime Bosh as the core trio wouldn't win championship coming out of the east??
Come on. Let's be real. I'm shocked this is a discussion. I've been on the eff cp3 bangwagon for a while but I didn't think the hate was this strong
The whole aproach and roster would be different. They'd have to play a whole different style of basketball.
But at the end of the day y'all are telling me, in a vacuum, a team with prime Paul, prime Wade, and prime Bosh as the core trio wouldn't win championship coming out of the east??
Come on. Let's be real. I'm shocked this is a discussion. I've been on the eff cp3 bangwagon for a while but I didn't think the hate was this strong
It doesn't have to be one dominates and one doesn't. There can be a balance between both. I'm not saying cp3 is just gonna sit on the wing the whole time. He's still initiate the offense more times than not but he'd also give Wade his opportunities to do what he does. I'm not trying to agrue cp3>> than lebron bruh. That's not the point of this discussion. I'm just saying a prime cp3, Wade and bosh most definitely win a ring together. You keep being up Blake like Blake hasn't had fantastic seasons with cp3
You keep making this a Bron vs CP3 thing when it's not. Op said prime Wade. Lebron barely had prime Wade. A team with all 3 of those players in there prime would be too much to handle. And a prime Wade and bosh does not need cp3 out there averaging 28 a game to win a ring
Breh, you're saying things that aren't adding up based on watching Paul with the Clippers. Bosh isn't gonna cook in the post, he's going to be used exactly how LeBron used him because that's how Paul has used every PF he's ever played with. CP3 uses his PFs as floor spacers, he's not letting any of them rock in isolation for more than a couple plays a game. I keep bringing up Blake because we've seen what he looks like when Paul misses time and he's a completely different player, he's an attacking playmaking PF that gets the board and brings it up the floor pretty much every play. Do you see Blake utilizing his playmaking to it's fullest? No, because Paul needs the ball, but you're trying to make it sound like he's going to defer to Bosh & Wade even though that would take away from his own game.
No, the same things weren't said about LeBron, everyone acknowledged that he was eventually going to win a title with better teammates. You're acting like the Clippers roster is trash, like his second best player is Mo Williams.
You don't win championships coming out of the East. You have to beat whoever comes out of the west to get a ring.
I don't know why ya'll love to run with that alternative fact...actually I know exactly why. But its still bullshyt...
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That team isnt beating the celtics.
That team isnt beating the celtics.
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Coming out the east makes it easier numb nuts. Let's not pretend like the games leading up have nothing to do with the finals
When has it ever mattered? Give me a specific year when the Eastern team won becuz the Western team was too tired/beat up/mentally fatigued/ whatever
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The 2003-04 lakers were self destructing and the 1988-89 lakers were running on fumes after 7 previous runs to the finals from 1980-88
. The west was awful in the 80's though
ITS NOT ABOUT BEING FATIGUE...
ITS ABOUT MATCHUPS.
2012 THUNDER KNOCKED OFF THE SPURS.
SPURS WOULD HAVE BEATEN THE HEAT
BUT HEAT GOT OKC INSTEAD.
BRON TEAMS ARE NEVER IN DANGER TIL THE FINALS...
WOULDNT BE THE CASE IF HE WAS IN THE WEST.
HOU, SAS, & GS WOULD HAVE THE CAVS IN A BIND.
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I agree I'm not basing it off of watching Paul with the clippers. I'm basing it on watching Paul with the Hornets since we are taking about PRIME cp3.
Paul has been better than every pf and player he's played with. He's never been in the position where he's had to differ to a better player. Prime Wade and Bosh are both better players than CP3. I feel like he'd understand that and adjust.
Plus he made David west an Allstar, and while I'd admit he hasn't let Blake thrive has a playmaker, I don't think he's limited him in any other way. And that's not an issue with bosh. Bosh is not gonna be a player who needs to initiate the offense. All he needs is his post touches and I truly don't think Chris Paul would affect that. Chris has let his Pfs eat. And I think bosh is a notecards talented player than both Blake and west. If west and Blake are scoring 21 playing with cp, I see no reason Bosh isn't averaging his normal 24 a game.
Paul wouldn't need the ball as much if he's was playing with players like Wade and bosh and I think he'd understand that. You don't
. And yes I do think he would defer to Wade and bosh even though it would take away from his own game because that's what great players do when they team up with superior players to win rings . That's what bosh did with the heat. Even Wade to an extent. Look at curry's numbers now vs last year. Cp3 would have to sacrifice some of his assists numbers for a ring. And I think he would. Everyone knew lebron and the heat would eventually win it all cause the talent they had was overwhelming. But let's not act like people didn't question how Wade and Bron would work together. They were too good and talented not to win but there were clear fit questions. People just knew better to question if those talents would work it out. Same way I feel in this case. Are there fit issues? Yes
. Do I think Wade, Bosh and Paul would work it out? Without a doubt The clippers roster isn't trash but this also isn't prime cp3. And there's not one player on the clippers the never of prime Wade. And bosh is a better player than Griffin on basically every level.
