SPIN: What are some harsh music realities you've had to accept?

[hustlemania]

The music some of them listen to now is so drastically different than the music from the 80s and 90s that they just can't relate. It's like it's a totally different form of music. It's a much larger transition in sound than it was between the 80s and 90s sound. But that's just SOME of the contemporary music. You can still find contemporary Hip Hop music and artists that are akin to the music and artists of the 80s and 90s and the fans of that sound usually have no issue listening to older Hip Hop music.

you also have to put into perspective- alot of that music isnt really that old when you think about it..

outside of popular acts/songs- we werent up on alot of really good music from the late 60s-70s.. in the late 80s-90s.. i wasnt really checking for alot of say, Herbie Hancock & The Headhunters until late 90s, honestly.. just takes time for things to come full-swing..

 

[360dagod]

That MOST of the younger generation. Mostly that 16 and under crowd don't wanna hear 80s and 90s hip hop. As much as I try to put them on, they are stuck in their ways.

Music is mood,timing,and atmosphere...

And to be honest, some of the hip hop music in that era might be too much to digest...

A 16 year old trying to understand kool g rap's connection to the Luciano family especially if you wasnt around is too much..

R&b is definitely easier to sneak in

 

[904]

My top 5 outside of Royce are pretty much done with music

I'm not really a Krit fan anymore.. Since he started putting out albums his sound has changed and I just don't really like it anymore..

Ghostface voice and delivery

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Poor Black men will continue to be ostracized in hip-hop, and the few that remain will be spitting primarily aspirational raps. Sincere and in depth introspective records from a poor man's perspective will not be mainstream ever again.

And that misguided middle class Intersectionality blipsters will continue their influence on hip-hop, further entrenching themselves as the faces of Black folks in media.

 

[gluvnast]

That anti-intellectualism has taken over hip hop culture. That being super-lyrical is now deemed as a bad thing, nobody wants to hear that rappity rap stuff. Producers fear to be true musicians and actually write compositions or push the boundaries of hip hop musically. Therefore, a redundant sound is what we have. That I am clearly getting too old to accept fully what's being put out there and understanding that this always will be a youth culture and the youth dictate the trends.

 

[L. Deezy]

^^^Proving my point, entirely

I wish @brownsugah hadn't gotten herself bushed. She was one of the few Coli members with actual R&B taste.

You probably can't tell a major chord from a minor, or a triad from a 7th, but somehow act as some authority on R&B. Goddamn, I hate non-musical people who try to speak on real music.

What point? H.E.R. cant sing nygga. stop carrying hurt feelings into different threads.

Nobody will ever agree with you that H.E.R sounds as good as Stephanie Mills or Teena Marie or anybody I said. Go suck a half a dyck.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

Malice will never gimme another verse of that A-1 Hustler/Drug-Talk
Clipse reunion never gonna happen
Jay Electronica never dropping his album

 

[TinFoilSnapBack]

What point? H.E.R. cant sing nygga. stop carrying hurt feelings into different threads.

Nobody will ever agree with you that H.E.R sounds as good as Stephanie Mills or Teena Marie or anybody I said. Go suck a half a dyck.

I see reading is not your strong suit, either. I was referring to my point within this thread on how people care about image way more than music.

Nobody feelings are hurt but yours, breh. Just give up. You clearly don’t have the knowledge to be speaking on anything R&B related, and you are mad that you got called out on it.

Again, I say, good day to you breh. Remain in your simple world.

 

[3rdWorld]

Black Power themed songs and albums are almost forgotten in music history. Its like people are doing their best to erase Public Enemy, De La Soul, ATCQ, and even early Ice Cube.

Thots and bytch made simps control the playlists for all social events and radio stations nowadays. Everything catered to hoes for their "safety". This era single handily threw away raw masculinity in rap.

100%..

I get my dose of Black power in dancehall and roots reggae. Seriously, fukk rap..its worthless now.

 

[semicko82]

No last Outkast album
Premo not going to work with Jay and Nas

 

[Larry Lambo]

That anti-intellectualism has taken over hip hop culture. That being super-lyrical is now deemed as a bad thing, nobody wants to hear that rappity rap stuff. Producers fear to be true musicians and actually write compositions or push the boundaries of hip hop musically. Therefore, a redundant sound is what we have. That I am clearly getting too old to accept fully what's being put out there and understanding that this always will be a youth culture and the youth dictate the trends.

I agree but fortunately today we have different aspects of hip-hop that caters to different audiences. 25 years ago, the average 35 - 50 year old man had very little to listen to that would have appealed to his generation. Now you got acts like Jay-Z, Gibbs, Roc Marci, Nipsey, Ross, Dave East, Smoke DZA, Royce, Griselda, Fab, Jada, etc. that the older crowd can bump and let the kids have their Lil Baby's and NBA Youngboy's.

 

[General Mills]

Killa is washed

It hurts my soul to say that




We never got that AZ/Nas album and never will.

 

[hcobbland84]

That arguably the GOAT lyricist (Canibus) won't get his just due until he's dead, despite his peers knowing what's up.

It’s true. It totally did. Have you heard the Kendrick “Control” verse?

Yes.

What was your initial reaction?
It’s hard to say because he fukking destroyed that verse, but it’s fukked up because everyone tells you what he did before you get a chance to hear it. My initial reaction was “Holy shyt” and then it was “Wow, that was smart as fukk.” He did it in such a smart way. You really can’t get mad because he’s saying what every MC is thinking or should be thinking. You know what I’m saying? “I want to destroy the competition. I want to fukking kill everybody.”

Did it remind you of “Till’ I Collapse” at all?
In what sense?

“Here’s the order of my list that it’s in….” You did the same thing with exclusion rather than inclusion. You named the people at the top of the game, and positioned yourself next to them—
I think Kendrick—and I’m sure he would probably say this, too—he definitely took a page from that era when I first came out, Royce first came out, Canibus first came out. I’m sure that I’ve been known to do shyt like that, Royce has been known to do shyt similar and Canibus. So I think he took a page from that but he updated it. Nobody is really doing that and that’s why I say it’s so smart for him to do it, because he’s at a stage in his career where he’s like, “fukk it. I’m going to say this and whatever the repercussions are the repercussions are. But this is how I feel. And I’m going to make it so smart these dudes can’t even get mad. Because if you get mad you might look crazy.”

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But I used to rhyme like Canibus back in the days, with mad punchlines—then Bad Boy came out. Ma$e was my favorite rapper. He is, to this day anyway. Ma$e is my favorite rapper and l used to attempt to produce beats like Bad Boy. The reason why I got so nice is because I'd be at home trying to be Stevie J, Nashiem, D-Dot, Ron Lawrence—all them combined. So when I came to New York nikkas were like, “Damn, nikka! You play your own strings? Damn nikka, You program your own drums?! Your own samples?!”

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[CrimsonTider]

What point? H.E.R. cant sing nygga. stop carrying hurt feelings into different threads.

Nobody will ever agree with you that H.E.R sounds as good as Stephanie Mills or Teena Marie or anybody I said. Go suck a half a dyck.[/QUOTE

Wow, how can someone be this damn stupid

 

[Redwood]

That the rappers we grew up on are now sounding and looking