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Spin: Why don't countries accept Black Americans as Refugees?
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CreepyMcCreeperson
Veteran
Money gets you politicians who do what you want. Every other group understands this but us. No politician is going to just “do the right things”. If there is no financial incentive, they aren’t going to do it. There aren’t enough of us supporting our local politicians.
A lot of us don’t even vote! You have posters on this very site encouraging others not to vote, as if those politicians aren’t steady making all kinds of decisions that have nothing to do with race, but still affect us.
How many of us are at these city council meetings?
So yes, this IS about money.
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
Lol American politics jumped the shark beyond grassroots community lobbying a long, long, long time ago. Corporations are the lobbies at this point, no amount of black capital is taking corporate interest out of the equation. If black people were to ever have a shot of an equal political playing field, corporations - LARGE CONGLOMERATES - would have to be proportionately black-owned for that to happen.
What you perceive as other groups leveraging lobbying is BECAUSE they are represented and accounted for in corporate interests, whether its via the domestic labor-force or the international one.
Most countries do land leases, the idea that you can permanent own land, even if it’s in the way of the common good, is a white western idea.
Vote for the Leftists in office, and work on greater exploitation of Africa and South America if you want the US to look like the Netherlands, Norway, and Finland.A real first world country doesn't have the level of poverty,crumbling infrastructure and inequality that exist in America
America is just a third world country rocking a louis vuitton belt, it's just packaging
Show me anywhere in Norway,finland,netherlands etc (the real first world countries) that looks like these
the infrastructure in America is beyond embarrassing, overwhelming majority of rural towns in america don't even have internet access ffs, rundown/underfunded public schools,bad roads,crumbling railway infrastructure (majority of the real first world countries run exclusively modern high speed rail while america still uses outdated rundown trains),rural and ghetto areas with extreme poverty etc. just because you have a large GDP and plenty of billionaires and fortune 500 companies doesn't make you a developed nation.
There are some towns and neighbourhoods in America that have similar living conditions as third world countries and this was according to a detailed report by the united nations and not some made up hyperbolic shyt
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
We live in a "first world" Nation with legal slavery for punishment of a crime with a judicial system that punishes black people disproportionately. These are aparthied conditions whether you chose to write them off as some inferriror mental state or not.
No matter how successful you are, a police officer can unjustly take your life an there is a 99.9 percent chance they will get away with it. Thats not the case in other "first world" Nations. Even the ones with tremendously racist histories cops not unloading clips in you because they thought you had a weapon.
Black people in the country are still enduing systemim oppression at the hands of corrupt police departments that are illigally exorting wealth from our communities exlusively (see justice dept report on Ferguson PD). This country has a racial caste system and thet is impossible to refute. These issues alone would make it reasonable for black people to considering leaving for nations. If you want to stay here, enjoy. Me im perparaing to live with EU citicenship, moving back and fowarth between the EU and Africa and visiting the US twice a year for 10 days at a time. This country aint for me long term.
CreepyMcCreeperson
Veteran
And what happened after desegregation?
Did we invest in our own businesses, or were we so excited to be in the mere presence of white people that we funded their businesses, and neglected our own?
We’ll spend $2000 on a white designer bag, but won’t support our own so they can get to that level. We’ll ask for black characters, or want to turn white ones black, but won’t support black content creators.
We can’t even get it together here, but want to pack up to live in a refugee camp in another country.
Tyranny of racial supremacy, or tyranny of capital - you choose one no matter where you go.
And I’m interested in what country that is comparable in terms of GDP per capita or QoL either treats refugees better than the US treats it’s Black population, or isn’t inherently anti-Black in its history.
Moving to a “ex-patriate” compound of Asian and African countries is a pathetic existence to rival moving into a gentrified enclave here in the US.
Grinning Americans all pretending life is better even as they navigate the resentment of the local population who knew the class difference between the new arrivals and the native-born can never be breached, pretending that not being able to go out at night is “just a part of the living experience here,” and that the same subset of activities everyday is true entertainment? Nah.
If there are no consequences for killing black people, that means in a way that you sanction it.
far from a drama student, just a guy whose uncle was killed by police, dealt with police brutality myself and a host of other things. I wanted to see if we could get refugee status; regardless of you trying to pinpoint discrepancies in definitions, I would have never qualified for it because I am born in America.
And if cops are shooting us and getting away with it, then that is state sanctioned since they work directly for the government. Black people have been under duress for over 400 years.
You know I was a refugee... to get asylum you literally have to prove your life is in danger. Hence why Afghans got taken in and other who come during all out war. There's very little room for stretching definitions. With all due respect they don't care about what's been happening for 400 years they want to know why you at there at the border are that moment and how much of an emergency it is.
When Katrina response failed Black Americans that was a time when refugee status should have been considered. People were left to die and killed lawlessly. But a society biased as it is would not be considered an imminent threat to your life. Definitions matter. The language you use matters.
You made an emotional appeal not a rational one to some racist border crakkkas. Yes Canadian border guards are well documented race soldiers.
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
I agree that there is not a strong enough community code in regards to practicing black economics, BUT I do believe it's possible to make it happen at a micro level. I'm a black video content creator and 90% of who I work with, hire & reference are black content creators & professionals. I literally started a black film networking group for the explicit purpose to get more black people hired on film sets and to function as an incubator for black screenplays & content. To date, we're literally the only group I've ever ran across in my area that specifically targets black filmmakers for paid gigs: literally every week there's 5-15 leads shared for industry rate gigs that are being offered first-round specifically & intentionally to black crew. As to why no one else was already doing this before us... it's a white-dominated industry that favors crew with the ability to accept no-pay gigs for years before they build a network/portfolio strong enough to be marketable. I spent years and years working two jobs and trying to use my one day off to freelance and crew for free... often without getting anything portfolio-worthy out of it, and very often working with white filmmakers who had no intention of networking at all. W/ this black networking group I started, I've already flipped that dynamic for everyone in my circle. Literally within one year of being active, everyone in my group who was completely green to filmmaking is lightyears ahead opportunity, network & experience-wise of where I was a year into my freelancing. I myself have gone 1000% further in my career in the past year this group's existed than anytime before.
On the macro level though, the film industry is still lily white and so are the financiers. It is still pretty much impossible to secure outside funding for anything bigger than no-budget. We all still have to be willing to sacrifice downtime, paid opportunities and etc. to be able to make the projects we actually want to make. And, yeah, black private investors are few and far in-between, and even fewer who are not already funding some white-owned productions who have deeper portfolios and more connections. It's still a long ways away from being where we want to be.
Diunx
Probably drunk
I'm sorry brehs but even the poorest of you americans lives in a paradise compare to poor people from other countries, this thread is absolutely ridiculous, you have no idea how good you have it.
DropTopDoc
Smokin my Opps like Patrick Mahomes pops
Because they don’t give a fukk about us, end of thread, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
@Amestafuu (Emeritus) , you don’t think this is fair grounds for at least asylum? This sounds very similar to a regime targeting it citizens. Statistically speaking it can even be quantified. I recall an NPR segment noting that Elsalvadoreans and Hondurans were using similar claims slightly before COVID to get into the US.
Of course, I still think the issue would be political feasibility. With the exception of China (maybe Russia) ; I can’t think of a single nation that would dare accept asylum on these grounds and risk the ire of the us govt. Black people in the US are in a similar position to say Taiwan and China, where the world will nod their heads and go along with the “okie doke” for fear of economic ramifications. No more than lip service.
Swahili P'Bitek
Absorbingpovertywithoutlimitations
Is America the best country in the world? Hell no! There are some countries that make America look really bad, like a joke.
Is America the worst? Obviously not, there are a lot of bad bad countries that make America look top class. Sad but true.
To put it into context, people always love talking about the cold war and all that and how it spawned the crack epidemic, but at the same time, that period was one of the worst periods ever to find yourself living in a 3rd world country where US or the Soviet union had interests. They are basically lost years to many places. Civil wars, incompetent puppet presidents left right and centre, economic sabotage etc. This stretched on to the 90s and early 2000s in some places with death tolls you can't even comprehend. Some people just draw a bad card in life, others draw worse and there are others that draw the worst. It's all about comparison.
Is America the worst? Obviously not, there are a lot of bad bad countries that make America look top class. Sad but true.
To put it into context, people always love talking about the cold war and all that and how it spawned the crack epidemic, but at the same time, that period was one of the worst periods ever to find yourself living in a 3rd world country where US or the Soviet union had interests. They are basically lost years to many places. Civil wars, incompetent puppet presidents left right and centre, economic sabotage etc. This stretched on to the 90s and early 2000s in some places with death tolls you can't even comprehend. Some people just draw a bad card in life, others draw worse and there are others that draw the worst. It's all about comparison.
