Stealth marketing: Microsoft paying YouTubers for Xbox One mentions

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I don't think you know the definition of editorial.
I do, and you did the best you could
I'm talking about the first one. A Reviewer said it was fukking trash and they fired the dude and tried to give the game a 8 but the damage had already been done. lol It was GARBAGE!
Part one has a cult following tho :mjpls:
I love pt.2 yet I hear less people talking about that one, which was my point overall (not related to anyone elses points btw)
 

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EA caught up too

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=755600

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http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/01...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Microsoft and popular game video publisher Machinima came up with a plan to pay YouTube broadcasters to promote the latest Xbox console. That’s not too unusual; less customary is not identifying the videos as paid endorsements.

Reports began surfacing over the weekend that Microsoft and Machinima had offered an additional $3 per 1,000 views if they included at least 30 seconds of footage from the new Xbox One videogame console in their YouTube videos, and mention it by name. People who signed up were asked to keep all matters relating to the agreement confidential.

Bloggers swiftly began complaining about the effort, which was seen as potentially misleading YouTube viewers.

In a joint statement, Machinima and Microsoft said in December they had agreed on “a typical marketing partnership” to promote Xbox One. The statement said “any confidentiality provisions, terms or other guidelines are standard documents provided by Machinima,” noting that confidentiality “relates to the agreements themselves, not the existence of the promotion.”

But Machina subsequently followed up with its own statement, noting that it typically requires channel partners to include certain language in their video content relating to its promotions.

“That didn’t happen here and we’re evaluating why,” the statement said. “All participants are being asked today to include our standard language going-forward. We apologize for the error and any confusion.”

For its part, a Microsoft spokesman added later that the company was not aware of the contracts Machinima had been entering into, nor did it provide any feedback on the videos. The company also asked Machinima not to post any additional Xbox One content as part of this campaign, and to add disclaimers to all affected videos ” indicating they were part of paid advertising.”

Federal Trade Commission guidelines seek to make sure paid endorsements are identified as such. They say that if there’s a connection between someone endorsing a product and the company that makes it that could “materially affect the weight or credibility of the endorsement” (such as being paid), the connection between them should be “fully disclosed.”

Aside from gamers who have expressed shock and outrage over this advertising effort, other voices have weighed in on both sides of the issue.

Danny Sullivan, founding editor of the blog Search Engine Land, said in a Tweet that the deal amounted to product placement. And of course, those types of deals are not uncommon.

But not everyone considers this type of dealing appropriate. Videogame blogging culture itself is filled with accusations of reporters supposedly being paid off to say one thing or another. In Europe, there has even apparently been controversy over bloggers who receive promotional items, such as t-shirts.

In terms of this advertising effort in particular, influential YouTube game blogger Steven Williams said he’s often seen this type of behavior and knows many bloggers who have taken part. He believes they should be transparent with viewers.

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http://www.polygon.com/2014/1/23/5337574/the-ftc-on-paying-youtubers-to-endorse-games

Major companies paying YouTubers to promote their video games doesn't run afoul of the Federal Trade Commissions guidelines, and even if it did, it's unlikely a content creator would be fined, an FTC spokesperson tells Polygon.

"The guides are guidance to help advertisers and endorsers comply with federal advertising law," said Betsy Lordan, with the FTC Office of Public Affairs. "They are not legally enforceable, and there are no monetary penalties or penalties of any kind associated with them."

Earlier this week, news hit that Microsoft and Electronic Arts were paying YouTubers to create videos to promote their games. Under the separate programs, the content creators were asked to disclose that relationship.

That's likely because of the 2009 revised guides released by the FTC for endorsements and advertising. According to those guides, paid endorsements are fine as long as the fact that a endorser is being paid is "clearly and conspicuously" disclosed. Lordan declined to comment on whether the disclosure in these cases met that requirement.

The guides were first written in 1980 to help advertisers understand the principle that if an ad features an endorser who's a relative or employee of the marketer — or if an endorser has been paid or given something of value to tout the marketer's product — the ad is misleading unless the connection is made clear, Lordan said. Knowing about the connection is important information for anyone evaluating the endorsement, she said.

In 2009, the FTC revised the guides to address the rise of social media.

"The legal principles haven't changed, but the FTC revised the examples to show how these standards apply in today's marketing world," Lordan said.

But the guides are just that, guides. They aren't laws, so they are not legally enforceable.

What they are is a set of guidelines meant to boil down the dense language of U.S. federal advertising laws. It's also worth noting that because these laws deals with communication on behalf of an advertiser, that communication is considered commercial and not protected speech.

And this is where things get a little interesting. While violating the guides won't lead to sanctions, the guides were written as a sort of warning sign to prevent people from breaking the law. So ignoring the guidelines could put a company on the road toward breaking the law, and some serious repercussions.

This is how Lordan explained it:

"So (for example) if an advertiser is not following these guidelines, there is no penalty. But the FTC could send a warning letter and if the problem is not eventually resolved, the agency could opt to open an investigation. But the ultimate charge (if the FTC decides to follow through) would be a violation of the FTC Act (violation of federal advertising law) and not a violation of the Guides. (It is not technically possible to violate the Guides because unlike regulations, the Guides are not legally enforceable.)"

And it's highly unlikely that the FTC would launch an investigation into a single YouTuber, rather they would investigate the company paying that person.

We reached out to Activision, Electronic Arts, Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony to ask them if they used or planned to still use endorsed YouTube videos to promote their games and if they had any plans to review the practice in light of the week's news and the reaction to it.

Sony and Activision did not respond. A Nintendo representative said that the company does not disclose or comment on its business practices.

Electronic Arts, which requires full discloser under its Ronku program, referred us to the statement they released earlier this week:

"Through EA's Ronku program, some fans are compensated for the YouTube videos they create and share about our games. The program requires that participants comply with FTC guidelines and identify when content is sponsored. User-generated videos are a valuable and unique aspect of how gamers share their experiences playing the games they love, and one that EA supports."

Specifically, the spokesman pointed out that under the terms and conditions of the program, each video must comply with the FTC's guidelines.

Microsoft, which paid Machinima to promote their games, noted that the decision to use YouTube creators for the program wasn't their's.

"As part of this campaign, Microsoft advertising dollars on Machinima were specifically for banner and pre-roll media placements," according to the Microsoft spokesperson. "The additional video content creation was provided by Machinima as a value-add program. Microsoft was not aware of the terms and requirements that Machinima has in place with its content providers.

"Our overall media plan spans a diverse set of channels and Machinima is one of many media partners we work with to reach our audience. It is important to Microsoft that all of our partners follow necessary guidelines and any videos as part of paid programs should carry the appropriate disclosures."

Like EA, Microsoft declined to say whether they were reexamining the use of endorsed YouTube videos for marketing their games.

The FTC isn't conducting any research into the use of their guidelines for endorsements, Lordan said. She declined to say if the FTC had any active investigations into game publishers over breach of the federal advertising law. Under FTC rules, the commission does not confirm investigations until they are complete and then, only if there are wrongdoings found.

google lawyers indeed...
 

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for some reason certain posters here always post right after each other :patrice:
 

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Im not surprised that Microsoft is doing dirty tactics. Is Xbots already doing damage control?
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. Enjoy that second place while Sony is reaching 5 milly
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Damn. Looking back through this thread I was called a fakkit, an "irrational fanboy, a "sack of shyt", cornball, amongst other things.

And EVERYTHING I said was correct.

Sony stans are truly a pitiful bunch:scusthov:

Y'all need to log of that echo chamber and start thinking for yourselves.
 

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Damn. Looking back through this thread I was called a fakkit, an "irrational fanboy, a "sack of shyt", cornball, amongst other things.

And EVERYTHING I said was correct.

Sony stans are truly a pitiful bunch:scusthov:

Y'all need to log of that echo chamber and start thinking for yourselves.
Nah you're still all of those things people called you
 
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