You get it.
Steph Curry right now is better than Kobe ever was
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You get it.
3 out of Curry''s first 5 seasons were in the 50s and the 2 that were in the 60s were 3-7 percentage points lower in true shooting
And Lebron has 3 seasons in Miami that are more efficient than his 08-09 season.
I like the spin on the wording, 1 of those "3 of his first 5 seasons" was his rookie year, another was when he shot .595% which would get rounded up to 60%, and the other was his first year with Mark Jackson
No, LeBron's 08-09 season is his most efficient
So can we get that on record that Curry is a system player
That's why it's gotta be a Delladova type, you gotta put somebody on him you don't care about losing, because he will rack up fouls. He's gotta bust through the screens and also not worry about the offensive guy jumping into him to get a cheap foul. A team with like 2 Della dova types and decent offense could handle the Warriors in my personal opinion.
Yes, the screen is how Curry got open, not putting on a Curly Neal impersonation with 4 dudes swiping at the ball
Kyrie & Curry are 1A and 1B, I noticed you didn't name any
Kyrie and Curry are not in the same league in terms of handles though, why is this comparison even being made?
I like the spin on the wording, 1 of those "3 of his first 5 seasons" was his rookie year, another was when he shot .595% which would get rounded up to 60%, and the other was his first year with Mark Jackson
No, LeBron's 08-09 season is his most efficient
So can we get that on record that Curry is a system player
PER isn't an efficiency metric, breh. We use True Shooting to see how efficient someone is putting the ball in the hole.
And no, Curry's 59 TS % would not be rounded up. And he has 5 seasons that are 5-7 percentage points lower than when the system was installed and you think that it has nothing to do with the abnormal jump in efficiency
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Nah Kyrie gotta be 1a, Curry aint really on his level (no one is)You didn't answer, did Kobe have a better handle than Kyrie too since Curry & Kyrie are considered 1a and 1b for handle?
Why we ducking questions my brother
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PER isn't an efficiency metric, breh. We use True Shooting to see how efficient someone is putting the ball in the hole.
And no, Curry's 59 TS % would not be rounded up. And he has 5 seasons that are 5-7 percentage points lower than when the system was installed and you think that it has nothing to do with the abnormal jump in efficiency
PER is an efficiency metric
and that was LeBron's most efficient season in his career. You use TS%, I generally don't because of how negativetly it views big men, for example you say it shows who is putting the ball in the hole efficiently yet it doesn't paint a full picture. For example Chris Paul has a higher TS% than Hakeem Olajuwon, who put the ball in the hole better? 1 was a rookie year, 1 was right under 60%, you're trying too hard to spin this.
So, are you going to call him a system player, or you just gonna dance around it and not own it?
His TS with Mark Jackson was 60%, with Kerr it's been 65%, 8-9 percentage points? Why we gotta lie?
Also, why do you keep using TS? LeBron's most efficient season was the 08-09 season with the Cavs. So you're basically implying that Curry is a system player now
This is hilarious
We aren't talking about a guy like Steve Nash who became an mvp out of nowhere at age 30 after joining a new team/system
We're talking about a player who has improved EVERY SINGLE SEASON
PER is an efficiency metric
PER does not adjust for volume nor account for defense.
The fact of the matter is that Lebron's 3 most efficient seasons as a scorer was with Miami.
And even if you want to claim that Curry was at 60 TS% before the system, the system made his TS% jump 5-7 points. That is abnormal and obviously a result of the system.
And no Curry is not a system player but he damn sure isn't this God tier player some of you are describing.
If we ranked Curry and Kobe's best seasons, Kobe would have 8/10 of the best regular seasons and 9/10 of the best playoffs.
This is hilarious
We aren't talking about a guy like Steve Nash who became an mvp out of nowhere at age 30 after joining a new team/system
We're talking about a player who has improved EVERY SINGLE SEASON
@Poitier has done everything but outright call him a system player
@GoddamnyamanProf I know where his hatred for Curry comes from, it's cause he's doing what Nash couldn't
So it's not the natural evolution of a player getting better, especially one that struggled with injury issues early in his career.
And LeBron's most efficient season was in 08-09, you said it wasn't now you're trying to turn it into a discussion of solely scoring, when I was on season from the jump. His TS% went from 61% in Mark Jackson's last year to 64% in Kerr's first year, there was a upward climb for his TS before Kerr got there.
The issue you have is that the absolute number 1 season would belong to Curry
it's to the point you're trying to say Kobe had a better handle than a dude that is 3" shorter, slower and not nearly as athletic yet somehow still puts up monster numbers. Someone that relies on their ball handling & shot and doesn't have elite athleticism.No, a jump in 5-7 TS % is not a product of natural evolution, breh. Like i said, we can look at Lebron's TS % with the old Cavs then with Miami back with the new Cavs to see how a system and a roster impacts efficiency.
And you keep acting like Curry isn't getting multiple screens and doesn't have way more space to play in than Kobe ever had.
And Kobe, would have the absolute #1 and #2 and maybe even #3 playoff seasons since he actually won FMVP in two of them against better teams and in the other was damn near equal to a prime Shaq.
Kyrie and Curry are not in the same league in terms of handles though, why is this comparison even being made?
Because it's the comparison everyone makes
They are regarded as the two best handlers in the league, you acting like it's some unheard of comparison.
The NBA channel itself asks the question
GoddamnyamanProf
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Nash was the system
Never worked without him.Catch all the breaks instead of being fukked over by the NBA?@GoddamnyamanProf I know where his hatred for Curry comes from, it's cause he's doing what Nash couldn't