Stephen A Smith calls KAEPERNICK a Malcom X wannabe

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:what:I'm saying Kaep wouldn't even be a factor to him, because he'd be pissed at how programmed black folks are when it comes to politics.
I'm sure someone would be capable of asking him about his feelings on Kaep if around.
 

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Neither do most in here.

You're in this thread no different than most in here.

Nothing you're doing is unique bro. No one needs the lesson. Cats in here are calling him ill informed just as you are
Ok. My bad. Keep having your 2 minutes hate session about the political musings of uneducated sports shock jock buffoon. I hope it's productive.
 

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But we're still politically retarded, we vote because "our ancestors died for the right" or because "Republicans are racist, and Democrats love us". Malcolm clearly stated that we need to become more mature when it comes to politics, and it's clear that we are a long way away from that. I think Malcolm would be more disappointed in black folks now than he would be at Kaep not voting.


I agree that we need to become more mature and more politically active. We need to mobilize as a community

As for the bold, it's impossible to know how Malcolm would've felt about the circumstances he's seen with our community in regards to voting but I don't think he would've advocated us NOT voting and just complaining about the system because it hasn't worked for us, that mentality isn't accomplishing anything.

@JahBuhLun there are other things on a ballot to vote for than a politician, that point has been made numerous times breh. What we talkin about extends beyond Democrats & Republicans
 

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Ok. My bad. Keep having your 2 minutes hate session about the political musings of uneducated sports shock jock buffoon. I hope it's productive.
What? Where's the hate session?

We aren't even talking about Sassy A anymore and having a general discussion on issues.

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I agree that we need to become more mature and more politically active. We need to mobilize as a community

As for the bold, it's impossible to know how Malcolm would've felt about the circumstances he's seen with our community in regards to voting but I don't think he would've advocated us NOT voting and just complaining about the system because it hasn't worked for us, that mentality isn't accomplishing anything.

@JahBuhLun there are other things on a ballot to vote for than a politician, that point has been made numerous times breh. What we talkin about extends beyond Democrats & Republicans
I respect that stance, which is why it's a shame he's gone because Malcolm could've helped a lot of these athletes that want to do good for the community.
 

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to me that is the biggest thing AGAINST These non voting idiots that think they are so smart and bold (and proud) to not vote.

Voting isn't just about the president there are more local and closer issues at hand that REALLY make a difference to ppl yet these idiots don't even see it. Too busy being proud of how ignorant they are
I have a choice whether or not to vote, it seems ignorant to me that people feel compelled to do something that they don't have to do. Now, local elections may have an impact on your daily life, but look at it this way, Baltimore had Blacks all up in the government and they still couldn't convict on officer that was responsible for Freddie Gray. So you say, "well, we can vote in Sheriffs, judges, etc." But if you notice, when a cop shoots a Black man, the person usually standing in front of the media talking is a Black police chief. A lot of these democratic ran urban areas are some of the worst areas. In my area, Black people are proud and brag when they move out of the urban area to the suburbs.

I am not going to sit on here and call anybody who did vote ignorant, just because some old white racist woman didn't get in as opposed to an old white racist man. I believe that Blacks should have their own organized and structured political party. Politics as they stand today are for lobbyists and people with money to influence decisions.

So no, I didn't vote in this election and won't condemn anyone who did. I've taken money out of my own pockets and feed 100's of the homeless in the inner city for almost a year, I have personally gave money to kids so they could go to college. Not full tuition, but a nice start for them. I've mentored Black grade school kids in reading programs. Now I know that's not a lot for some of you on here, but I don't need a politician I like in office to do the work either.
 

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I have a choice whether or not to vote, it seems ignorant to me that people feel compelled to do something that they don't have to do. Now, local elections may have an impact on your daily life, but look at it this way, Baltimore had Blacks all up in the government and they still couldn't convict on officer that was responsible for Freddie Gray. So you say, "well, we can vote in Sheriffs, judges, etc." But if you notice, when a cop shoots a Black man, the person usually standing in front of the media talking is a Black police chief. A lot of these democratic ran urban areas are some of the worst areas. In my area, Black people are proud and brag when they move out of the urban area to the suburbs.

I am not going to sit on here and call anybody who did vote ignorant, just because some old white racist woman didn't get in as opposed to an old white racist man. I believe that Blacks should have their own organized and structured political party. Politics as they stand today are for lobbyists and people with money to influence decisions.

So no, I didn't vote in this election and won't condemn anyone who did. I've taken money out of my own pockets and feed 100's of the homeless in the inner city for almost a year, I have personally gave money to kids so they could go to college. Not full tuition, but a nice start for them. I've mentored Black grade school kids in reading programs. Now I know that's not a lot for some of you on here, but I don't need a politician I like in office to do the work either.
I don't care if anyone votes or not but to get up on a pedestal and talk about social issues then not do anything when you had an opportunity just speaks ignorance to me.

As for the ppl that are being elected...when you vote you make your voice heard, if you don't like the person voted in then change it. Voting in those ppl is the only way to really hold ppl accountable.


By sitting around and not voting you are telling everyone that you don't care. But at least by voting(especially in strength) then you make ppl HAVE to listen to you. Right now they don't care about working for you because you aren't voting for them SO ppl shouldn't be complaining when the white politicians are working for the voters that support them.


get out and vote and let them know that your voice needs to be listened to. And when you have thousands of ppl doing the same then they HAVE to listen, or else they won't get elected.


PPL think so small minded and simple, they also look at things in the short term. Look long term. Sure your "guy" may not get in this time, but when they see a strong voting turnout then best believe you will have ppl working for those votes.


Doing nothing means you get nothing. Because there is NO incentive for anyone to work for someone rather than someone that is active and votes.


Now here's another question. If ppl are seeing poor black turnout for votes, where is the incentive for black ppl to actually become politicians? Like I said, if there are lots of one demographic voting, then ppl are gonna do what they can to get those votes, and that's when you can see change happen. Being complacent puts you closer to the end of the line cuz no one cares about them.
 

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Not enough.

I don't think he's heard Malcolm's thoughts on voting. They run extremely counter from his own views.
I would venture to say he has, his points that he was making when he started this protest struck me as someone who has taken the time understand the issues at hand. I just think it's disappointing that people are negating his original protest and reason behind it because he said he didn't vote. People will for any and every reason to discredit someone and their message that draws attention to Black issues. Yet, people are upset because he chose not to vote for 2 racists who don't give a shyt about POC.

I understand the local vote argument, but that's not why people are upset with him and people who didn't vote. No one would even bat an eye if he said, "I didn't vote locally."
 

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I would venture to say he has, his points that he was making when he started this protest struck me as someone who has taken the time understand the issues at hand. I just think it's disappointing that people are negating his original protest and reason behind it because he said he didn't vote. People will for any and every reason to discredit someone and their message that draws attention to Black issues. Yet, people are upset because he chose not to vote for 2 racists who don't give a shyt about POC.

I understand the local vote argument, but that's not why people are upset with him and people who didn't vote. No one would even bat an eye if he said, "I didn't vote locally."
I don't agree. Even his defense of Castro were thin, although pointed in the right direction. I think he needs to take a deeper dive into these men if he's going to tout them. That may come in time
 

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I try to stay out of these threads because I'm sick of the bullshyt he pontificates on a daily basis. It's getting ridiculous. Dudes just can't ignore him or Barkley. seems like I can't go a page without a thread on him.
 

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I try to stay out of these threads because I'm sick of the bullshyt he pontificates on a daily basis. It's getting ridiculous. Dudes just can't ignore him or Barkley. seems like I can't go a page without a thread on him.
We aren't even talking about him now
 

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No breh. The biggest problem with this comparison between Kaep and Malcolm is that Brother Malcom advocated voting. Peep an excerpt from his famous "The Bullet or the Ballot" speech from 1964:



Brother Malcom wouldn't have supported Kaep's position of not voting especially when there were issues on his ballot that Kaep could've voted for that would've had an impact on people of colors lives in his community and was not about a politician.

There's no legit reason Kaep had for not voting and even tho SAS is an idiot, he was right to call him out for not voting. This comparison however makes no sense

I listen to Ballot or the Bullet like a damn rap song, I can prolly recite that shyt word for word if you play it. But yeah, Malcolm was talking about strategic voting, he was arguing that able people should run for office and Black people should swing their votes to those people from the community that have the best interests of the community at heart. Makes total sense. I understand why Kaep doesn't want to vote or is indifferent but just like you said, you can't hide behind Malcolm when you say shyt like that because he understood how powerful your right to vote really is.

It's kind of a sad assessment of Kaep's whole schtick overall. While it's great to see him making himself aware and reaching out in the community, his is typical of our generation at large and in all the intelligence he has displayed he's still finding difficulty in noticing the very things that the GOP and other forces have done in order to make the vote seem cheap to the younger generation while at the same time eroding the various provisions in place thanks to the Voting Rights Act.

To use a Yoda quote, "A Jedi yet, you are not.", that's Kaep when it comes to this conscious shyt. Voting down ballot is important as fukk, which is why rethugs got everything they want because they get their constituents out to vote while Dems just shoot for the big elections. I swear I'm gonna avoid any ESPN/FS1 discussion on this topic, I don't want to listen to those idiots discuss complex people like Malcolm or Fidel. :snoop:
 
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