Stephen A. Smith catching hell on twitter right now from his own Colleague at ESPN

[Consigliere]

SAS getting his well deserved comeuppance. Yeah, I know he's not advocating domestic violence, but he failed the empathy test. All he had to do was say the cliche 'never hit a woman' and this would be a non-story.

He gets no sympathy from me.

SAS should know how Black men are viewed when they speak their minds in public. It makes a certain type of white person feel threatened. Instead of being a verbal thug, he should pull his metaphorical pants up. Stop wearing his linguistic hat backwards and comply with the dominant discourse the same way he advocates young Black men should.

His fault entirely for not creating an atmosphere for Beadle to feel safe. Now she's gotta cross the hallway when she sees him at work and clutch her purse like Mark Cuban.

 

[Mike Otherz]

At the end of the day you either believe you shouldn't hit women (unless you're LIFE is in danger/threatened) or you don't. When I hear SAS I hear a whole bunch of beating around the bush (no pun intended) and ultimately get the impression that he has a warped view of what it means to be a victim of violence. A woman cannot say anything to a man to justify her getting hit, period. Just as a child or elderly person cannot verbally "instigate" a fight with a grown person - because they are physically not a threat, therefore there is no justification in beating the shyt out of them unless they pull out a weapon on you for instance.

Ray Rice is a world class athlete, over 200 pounds, and has impressive strength levels. There is literally nothing a woman could do to him to physically threaten him, without a weapon. There is NOTHING his fiance could have done to justify getting knocked the fukk out, end of story. If you disagree with that, I believe you have a warped view of women.

yeah i ultimately agree with this. the easist thing to solve this isituation is for dudes who are assaulted to report the assault, and the law to take the womans actions seriously. but dudes never report it cause they dont wanna be clowned. so they leave the door open for the woman behaviour to continue. solange should have been arrested, chads girl, ray rices woman, should also have ben arrested along with their spouses. that is the only sensible deterrent. so i guess i blame the dudes for not reporting instead of letting it slide in jays case, and overreacting in chad and ray rice case. i also blame the law which can act even if a report isnt made. so blame the law and embarrased dudes.

 

[philmonroe]

Nah, I'm with @Piff Perkins on this one.

Short of threatening your life or the life of someone else in the vicinity, or proof that you are mentally imbalanced in some way, there is nothing that a woman can do to you that justifies beating her. IDGAF if she insults your family, your friends, your kids, your pipegame, whatever - if she's using words and your response results in her being bruised and/or bloodied, you have no excuse. It's easy as fukk to restrain a weaponless woman without causing serious harm.

I won't front and say I don't understand the desire to beat the shyt out of a woman who's pissing you off - that's natural. But to act on it in situations that aren't threatening your life are completely unnecessary.

My problem with you, him or anybody else is a beating is now 1 lick? Its not like he Molly whopped her again and again. Even if you don't agree with that my point and most others are if she doesn't spit, put hands on him in the first place this situation doesn't happen. Telling people you should keep your hands to yourself isn't some "victim blaming" don't matter how others choose to twist the words.

I'm pretty sure you don't leave your door wide open even though people aren't supposed to be thieves right? Same stuff IMO. You're telling people things that can potentially stop or make it harder for something negative to happen and that's bad? Nah some just being crazy as usual so they can be on the "right" side of history.

 

[philmonroe]

yeah i ultimately agree with this. the easist thing to solve this isituation is for dudes who are assaulted to report the assault, and the law to take the womans actions seriously. but dudes never report it cause they dont wanna be clowned. so they leave the door open for the woman behaviour to continue. solange should have been arrested, chads girl, ray rices woman, should also have ben arrested along with their spouses. that is the only sensible deterrent. so i guess i blame the dudes for not reporting instead of letting it slide in jays case, and overreacting in chad and ray rice case. i also blame the law which can act even if a report isnt made. so blame the law and embarrased dudes.

This dude speaking on shyt he never been a part of or witnessed. Said goto the cops like they not clowning your ass while not doing nothing to the chick. I'm pretty sure there are dudes on here that can tell you how that goes. My boy ex wife tried to slice him and they told him to leave the house and did nothing to her. That's just one situation but how often would that happen in reverse? That's how you know some haven't had any type of experience (which isn't a bad thing either) in this subject but talking from some unrealistic viewpoint.

 

[Bilz]

Wait a fukking minute here, this dude said women shouldnt put themselves in harms way and do stupid shyt to provoke an ass whooping and now the whole world against him?

fukk this world maaan

That's not what he said though. It could have been what he meant but for someone who makes such an effort to use a thesaurus in order to sound educated and articulate, he fukked that one up badly.

It sounded much more like "you're the woman, don't piss off your master or you'll get the beats". There was no need to say anything other than that domestic violence is wrong for EITHER gender and that anyone who is getting assaulted needs to get out of that relationship.

 

[theGoldmangod]

My post wasn't about defending Ray Rice. I don't know what happened in that elevator and I don't really care. The woman has decided to stay with Rice so I don't know why people are trying to cape for her though.

My issue is with your overall mentality which perpetuate a double standard when it comes to violence regarding men and women. I don't have a problem if you have a "I won't put my hands on you unless you put your hands on me 1st" policy as long as it's applied across the board to me and women equally. If you're saying that nobody should be able to provoke a physical response unless they get physical 1st then cool. I dont agree(nobody is forever above an ass whipping) but i can respect that. I can't respect the double standard that says that men have this responsibility to never put their hands on women while aren't to be held to that same standard. When I hear people pretend as if woman can't provoke situations that lead to them being hurt or abused I tend to that they are ignorant and naive.

I don't think you cats realize the slippery slope you're creating with this line of thinking. Cacs think the same way as you do when it comes to Black men vs law enforcement and its bullshyt. The ones in positions of power in situations have a responsibility to not abuse it. Period.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Why must every discussion that has to do with women being accountable somehow go into the extreme examples of rape?

Its a typical liberal/feminine arguing tactic. @Nobammerweed is always doing this as well.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

I don't think you cats realize the slippery slope you're creating with this line of thinking. Cacs think the same way as you do when it comes to Black men vs law enforcement and its bullshyt. The ones in positions of power in situations have a responsibility to not abuse it. Period.

nikkas should comply tho. In most vids where nikkas is getting fukked up it's because they resist. I learned early to just do what the fukk they say.

 

[jadillac]

When you hear "provoke" you just seem to sound like the rest of the idiots that know damn well what somebody talking about but want to play stupid for whatever reason. This that new age no accountability shyt going on nowadays.

10000% ttruth.

People these days just like to play devils advocate for no reason.

 

[theGoldmangod]

nikkas should comply tho. In most vids where nikkas is getting fukked up it's because they resist. I learned early to just do what the fukk they say.

Word, its what I will teach my son as soon as he becomes of age. Keep your hands where they can be seen and stay calm. But the same nikkas in here talking this shyt about provocation and being justified in using excessive force against women will be the same ones in those police brutality threads talking about it doesn't matter that he resisted the police used excessive force....

That said there are plenty of Black people who have been killed by law enforcement for literally just being in their homes, walking on the street, etc. These cops really do shoot first and ask questions later often when they see Black skin. Its easy to pick on the downtrodden.

 

[philmonroe]

10000% ttruth.

People these days just like to play devils advocate for no reason.

Exactly. Dudes choose to be offended for any reason nowadays then try to insult your intelligence at the same damn time. Disgusting

 

[jadillac]

Nah, I'm with @Piff Perkins on this one.

Short of threatening your life or the life of someone else in the vicinity, or proof that you are mentally imbalanced in some way, there is nothing that a woman can do to you that justifies beating her. IDGAF if she insults your family, your friends, your kids, your pipegame, whatever - if she's using words and your response results in her being bruised and/or bloodied, you have no excuse. It's easy as fukk to restrain a weaponless woman without causing serious harm.

I won't front and say I don't understand the desire to beat the shyt out of a woman who's pissing you off - that's natural. But to act on it in situations that aren't threatening your life are completely unnecessary.

Bruh, I don't think there's anyone in here that's suggesting it's ok to hit a woman under these circumstances. In this I agree that a man should never hit a woman when it's based on an argument, or even a slap.

But there's dudes on here stating extremes such as there's never a reason period to defend yourself as a man. This sort of logic is flawed and very short-sighted.

There's dudes on here who would disagree with YOUR idea of it being acceptable to hit a woman even in the case of your life being in danger

 

[philmonroe]

Word, its what I will teach my son as soon as he becomes of age. Keep your hands where they can be seen and stay calm. But the same nikkas in here talking this shyt about provocation and being justified in using excessive force against women will be the same ones in those police brutality threads talking about it doesn't matter that he resisted the police used excessive force....

That said there are plenty of Black people who have been killed by law enforcement for literally just being in their homes, walking on the street, etc. These cops really do shoot first and ask questions later often when they see Black skin. Its easy to pick on the downtrodden.

What is this hormonal garbage you spewing my dude? 99% of dudes main point was keep your hands to yourself but certain people exaggerating what was said. Y'all gotta stop with them tactics they weak cause for all these post people straight saying this chick or any chick deserve to get beat like she stole something is small (if even existent) but you making it seem like 99% of dudes on some #HOH regarding this issue. Smdh.

 

[Skip b]

SAS getting his well deserved comeuppance. Yeah, I know he's not advocating domestic violence, but he failed the empathy test. All he had to do was say the cliche 'never hit a woman' and this would be a non-story.

He gets no sympathy from me.

SAS should know how Black men are viewed when they speak their minds in public. It makes a certain type of white person feel threatened. Instead of being a verbal thug, he should pull his metaphorical pants up. Stop wearing his linguistic hat backwards and comply with the dominant discourse the same way he advocates young Black men should.

His fault entirely for not creating an atmosphere for Beadle to feel safe. Now she's gotta cross the hallway when she sees him at work and clutch her purse like Mark Cuban.

Stephen a has said far worse shyt about laying hands on woman, shaking them and such so I dont get this whole fuss..........


The comical shyt is before this fuss, I thought he would have got in trouble earlier in the week, when he said he hope his enemy die and burn in hell and went on a 5 min rant about it..................................Stephen has been tripping post vacation lmao, shame he gets caught up here he really aint say anything bad and if you want you can dig up far worse shyt on this subject to dirty him up

 

[Houston911]

Its a typical liberal/feminine arguing tactic. @Nobammerweed is always doing this as well.

@No_bammer_weed

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