Stephen A Smith: Tyrese Haliburton is NOT a superstar

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Define Superstar?

Vince Carter was a superstar, Grant Hill was a superstar, Penny Haradway was a superstar. So why can't Haliburton be a superstar?

All 3 of those guys were must see tv in their prime and had huge personalities/marketing campaigns behind them.
 

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So basically, white casuals determine superstar status
Not just whites, all casuals. Casuals determine superstar status. Die Fans only stagnate sports. Die Hards are the reason baseball fell off. Try too hard to protect the sanctity of the sport rather than allowing it to grow and evolve. They the reason people get angry when a hitter celebrates a homerun. Die hard will trash modern players for not being like the past stars. Die hards oppose evolution, because they don't want their favorite players past records to be eclipsed due to some rule change. Problem is the past superstars don't get to play forever, Die hard fans don't live forever, and new fans don't care about some star from the 80s.
Its much better to cater to Casuals than die hards if you are in it for the money.
 

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Not just whites, all casuals. Casuals determine superstar status. Die Fans only stagnate sports. Die Hards are the reason baseball fell off. Try too hard to protect the sanctity of the sport rather than allowing it to grow and evolve. They the reason people get angry when a hitter celebrates a homerun. Die hard will trash modern players for not being like the past stars. Die hards oppose evolution, because they don't want their favorite players past records to be eclipsed due to some rule change. Problem is the past superstars don't get to play forever, Die hard fans don't live forever, and new fans don't care about some star from the 80s.
Its much better to cater to Casuals than die hards if you are in it for the money.
I mean in the sense that white people are the majority, so they move the needle more.
 

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What celebrity appeal did Larry Bird have besides being white and playing for Boston? Bird wasn’t some media darling, and he and Duncan have nearly identical accolades after their first 5-6 years or so. Bird didn’t even want to do that Converse commercial with Magic. They filmed it in Indiana because that’s where Bird spent his offseason.
Jersey sales, commercials, and shoe deal. Multi video games.
 

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if we are going with the beyond the court stuff, I still have doubts hali becomes a household name just off winning just one finals.

hed have to have an extraordinary series and some iconic moments just to jumpstart the conversation. and casual fan probably still doesnt give a fukk
hed have to have a great PR marketing campaign to bombard people outside the sport all the time.

if guys on the Spurs couldnt become superstars after winning, what makes ppl think casuals will eat up Hali after one win ? :dame:
 

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in fact, whats the last time a pass-first PG was considered a superstar in the league ? was Stockton even a superstar in a sense of popularity/household name ?
 

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Jersey sales, commercials, and shoe deal. Multi video games.
And all of those things happened because Bird had that championship game against Magic in college, he was white, and played for Boston. Of course he had to be a great player as well, but he wouldn’t be as popular without those other factors.
 

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And all of those things happened because Bird had that championship game against Magic in college, he was white, and played for Boston. Of course he had to be a great player as well, but he wouldn’t be as popular without those other factors.

YOU JUST DESCRIBED CAITLIN CLARK.

THAT CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
WITH ANGEL REESE TOOK
HER SUPPORT TO ANOTHER LEVEL
AFTER ANGEL SHAT ON HER
AND ITS BECAUSE SHES WHITE
:devil:
:evil:
 
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