Stephen A Taking Tap Dancing to a new level

[Victim of Racism]

You seem REALLY invested in the European community. Im not. My concern is with the black conunity. And if you think that damn near 40 year olds like T.I, Rick Ross,Jeezy, 2Chainz and Pusha T are "poor" and naive, then people like YOU are the problem by enabling these highly influencial public figures to promote and glorify a destructive lifestyle to the black community. You are 100% wrong. Stop focusing so much on the European community. They intentionally manipulated black music to demonize the image of the black race. Go read up on "media propaganda" then get back at me. They are using the most negative images and sounds of black people to further their agenda.

No need to twist my words. Let's stay on topic. The topic is you making false statements about us like "we are the ones glorifying". No, Americans are glorifying it and none more so than Hollywood. And, no, it's "to the black community". It's to all communities, and none more than the European community, as they are the largest consumers of it. You are making false statements and you don't seem to understand that.

These 40 year-olds were poor, who were offered large sums to do what they're doing and no one is turning that money down, and as I said, if they don't comply, those Europeans will put them right back in the poverty they came from. Are you calling Pac a liar when he says he wanted to write more "Brenda's Got A Baby" songs, but the label told him his money stops if he doesn't keep the bulk of his music ratched?

Those same images you speak of are being shown of Europeans, it's just being excused. Example: it's kool for the Mob to do these things and to do them even worse than us, but when we do it, it's demonized. It's called prejudice. Do you really think it's about the images? Everything we do, even our hair and poverty is demonized. European drunks are victims, while Afrikan drunks are demons. Meth addicts are victims. Crack addicts are demons (but only if they're Afrikan because there's more Europeans on crack than Afrikans).

More of them are on welfare than us. Medicare is the biggest entitlement program there is, as 50% of their medical expenses are paid for by the government, which is more than what working people on food stamps get. In 2008 they received bail-out packages and stimulus packages to protect their wealth, yet all you hear about is food stamps. If we were perfect, they'd find a way to demonize it because that's how prejudice works.

 

[ProfessorEdee]

So Stephen.....

Ready to comment on that white on white violence yet?

 

[BXKingPin82]

So Stephen.....

Ready to comment on that white on EVERYONE violence yet?

 

[PhonZhi]

No need to twist my words. Let's stay on topic. The topic is you making false statements about us like "we are the ones glorifying". No, Americans are glorifying it and none more so than Hollywood. And, no, it's "to the black community". It's to all communities, and none more than the European community, as they are the largest consumers of it. You are making false statements and you don't seem to understand that.

These 40 year-olds were poor, who were offered large sums to do what they're doing and no one is turning that money down, and as I said, if they don't comply, those Europeans will put them right back in the poverty they came from. Are you calling Pac a liar when he says he wanted to write more "Brenda's Got A Baby" songs, but the label told him his money stops if he doesn't keep the bulk of his music ratched?

Those same images you speak of are being shown of Europeans, it's just being excused. Example: it's kool for the Mob to do these things and to do them even worse than us, but when we do it, it's demonized. It's called prejudice. Do you really think it's about the images? Everything we do, even our hair and poverty is demonized. European drunks are victims, while Afrikan drunks are demons. Meth addicts are victims. Crack addicts are demons (but only if they're Afrikan because there's more Europeans on crack than Afrikans).

More of them are on welfare than us. Medicare is the biggest entitlement program there is, as 50% of their medical expenses are paid for by the government, which is more than what working people on food stamps get. In 2008 they received bail-out packages and stimulus packages to protect their wealth, yet all you hear about is food stamps. If we were perfect, they'd find a way to demonize it because that's how prejudice works.

Dude, damn near my entire posting history deals with this subject. Ive made countless threads about what you are talking about. Again, you arent telling ME nothing new. The black image is looked at differently because of the ongoing assault on our image. And ignorant rap is being used to assist in this. Ive posted this vid MANY times.



Yes, rappers like T.I were once young. But whats his excuse now? Somebody made a thread a few days ago about his next album being titled "trap" something. Why is he STILL glorifying the trap? Stop making excuses for these dudes. Look at Pusha T. His brother Malice quit rapping because he came to the realization that what he was glorifying was a horrible message. You said earlier that these rappers are NOT puppets, but the way you're defending them now as naive, helpless victims YOU are the one making the case for them being "puppets" of white supremacy. Either way you look at it, they are a detriment to the black community by spreading poison to our youth and upholding these negative stereotypes. The word "thug" is synonymous worldwide with the black male because of European manipulated rap

 

[Victim of Racism]

Dude, damn near my entire posting history deals with this subject. Ive made countless threads about what you are talking about. Again, you arent telling ME nothing new. The black image is looked at differently because of the ongoing assault on our image. And ignorant rap is being used to assist in this. Ive posted this vid MANY times.



Yes, rappers like T.I were once young. But whats his excuse now? Somebody made a thread a few days ago about his next album being titled "trap" something. Why is he STILL glorifying the trap? Stop making excuses for these dudes. Look at Pusha T. His brother Malice quit rapping because he came to the realization that what he was glorifying was a horrible message. You said earlier that these rappers are NOT puppets, but the way you're defending them now as naive, helpless victims YOU are the one making the case for them being "puppets" of white supremacy. Either way you look at it, they are a detriment to the black community by spreading poison to our youth and upholding these negative stereotypes. The word "thug" is synonymous worldwide with the black male because of European manipulated rap

No, rap isn't "assisting" on the assault on our image. Rap is just the excuse. Europeans even tried to blame slavery on rap (you may have seen the topic "Rap Albums That Caused Slavery" trending on Twitter this past March). smh Eminem made and is still making the most destructive hip-hop of all time and gets no flack.

Malice became a Christian because he thought he had Aids and he thought God was sending him a message through that period of hallucination. It wasn't because he cared about what he rapped about. He was a grown man. He knew it was wrong to write what he wrote, but he kept doing it because he needed the money. Malice became sorrowful after God changed his heart, not just about his lyrics, but his whole lifestyle. Jay-Z also said he knows it's wrong to objectify women in his music.

The word "thug" is not applied to Afrikan men because of rap, it's applied to them because of prejudice. Rap is just the excuse. It's the new n-word. Europeans commit more crime, use more drugs, and sell more drugs than anyone and there is only excuses for them.

I never said the rappers were victims, so no need to try to build a case on twisting my words. If anyone is making them out to be victims, it's you, by calling them "puppets". Puppets don't know what they're doing. I said they need the money, will go right back to poverty if they don't comply, and aren't the only ones accepting the money for it, so why you're falsely accusing them of being the main players in it is absurd. What's the labels excuse? No harm done if millions isn't placed behind the music and no million dollar bribes are made to the rappers. It's funny that you tried to claim that the rappers are ones in control. They control nothing. The rappers also glorify selling drugs because they are Americans. American culture does this, none more than Hollywood, and Hollywood does not need the money. What's their excuse?

And no, they aren't a detriment to our community, as 70% of drug abusers are Europeans, not Afrikan, they sell more than we do, and are the primary consumers of the music. Afrikans have no obligation to try to shake stereotypes, as that is impossible because they are driven by prejudice. They have no obligation to act better than the average American and American culture glorifies violence and selling drugs. If you are going to call that behavior a detriment to us, then it's American culture that's a detriment to us and a detriment to those rappers because they, as I said, are a product of America. You are also a product of America, with your profanity, which is also used to justify us being lynched every few days, so will you stop cursing? Go tell Eminem and Miley to change their music. Prejudice is the detriment to our community. No need to blame us.

Bottom line, you keep trying to put glorifying selling drugs on Afrikans when it is in fact an American invention that didn't start with hip-hop and won't end with it. None of what you say is true — that is the issue that you keep trying to avoid.

 

[South Side Reject]

Fired over talking shyt about black people?

Right. He's not going anywhere unless a white female complains about something he said or blacks step up and pressure ESPN/Disney to get rid of his ass.

I don't watch anymore so could someone please explain why they keep talking about racial topics? What was the context? Unless it pertains to a sports story, they should steer clear of social issues discussions.

 

[WOLF2007]

He should Open that fat lip of his on Louisiana shooting and Hulk Hogan. put your tap dancing shoes on and defend that

 

[NYC Rebel]

That's what i was telling people in this thread earlier, but "black twitter though "

Black twitter what? Should they be QUIET? Most on black twitter already know he wouldn't be fired, so what's your point?

 

[blackestofpanthers]

Black twitter what? Should they be QUIET? Most on black twitter already know he wouldn't be fired, so what's your point?

I never said they should be quiet, my post stated they wouldn't do anything that would effect anything basically, and i was correct. You and other posters quoted me acting like i was wrong or something breh. Black twitter not doing shyt that nikkas haven't been doing on forums since the early 2000s, and that damn sure isn't getting tap dancers who are following their bosses scripts fired.

 

[PhonZhi]

No, rap isn't "assisting" on the assault on our image. Rap is just the excuse. Europeans even tried to blame slavery on rap (you may have seen the topic "Rap Albums That Caused Slavery" trending on Twitter this past March). smh Eminem made and is still making the most destructive hip-hop of all time and gets no flack.

Malice became a Christian because he thought he had Aids and he thought God was sending him a message through that period of hallucination. It wasn't because he cared about what he rapped about. He was a grown man. He knew it was wrong to write what he wrote, but he kept doing it because he needed the money. Malice became sorrowful after God changed his heart, not just about his lyrics, but his whole lifestyle. Jay-Z also said he knows it's wrong to objectify women in his music.

The word "thug" is not applied to Afrikan men because of rap, it's applied to them because of prejudice. Rap is just the excuse. It's the new n-word. Europeans commit more crime, use more drugs, and sell more drugs than anyone and there is only excuses for them.

I never said the rappers were victims, so no need to try to build a case on twisting my words. If anyone is making them out to be victims, it's you, by calling them "puppets". Puppets don't know what they're doing. I said they need the money, will go right back to poverty if they don't comply, and aren't the only ones accepting the money for it, so why you're falsely accusing them of being the main players in it is absurd. What's the labels excuse? No harm done if millions isn't placed behind the music and no million dollar bribes are made to the rappers. It's funny that you tried to claim that the rappers are ones in control. They control nothing. The rappers also glorify selling drugs because they are Americans. American culture does this, none more than Hollywood, and Hollywood does not need the money. What's their excuse?

And no, they aren't a detriment to our community, as 70% of drug abusers are Europeans, not Afrikan, they sell more than we do, and are the primary consumers of the music. Afrikans have no obligation to try to shake stereotypes, as that is impossible because they are driven by prejudice. They have no obligation to act better than the average American and American culture glorifies violence and selling drugs. If you are going to call that behavior a detriment to us, then it's American culture that's a detriment to us and a detriment to those rappers because they, as I said, are a product of America. You are also a product of America, with your profanity, which is also used to justify us being lynched every few days, so will you stop cursing? Go tell Eminem and Miley to change their music. Prejudice is the detriment to our community. No need to blame us.

Bottom line, you keep trying to put glorifying selling drugs on Afrikans when it is in fact an American invention that didn't start with hip-hop and won't end with it. None of what you say is true — that is the issue that you keep trying to avoid.

Your whole argument keeps resting on what white people are doing. Eminem is the white communities problem. Miley Cyrus is the white communities problem. If you cant see that todays INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED hiphop is having a negative affect GLOBALLY on the black community, then i dont know what to tell u. You blame me of "twisting your words", well you're doing the same with me by suggesting that im saying rap is CAUSING ppl to sell drugs. Yes, ppl sold drugs b4 and will continue to do so after. But you're missing the big picture of what this hiphop culture is doing to us. You (along with many other posters) seem to be extremely shortsighted on the power of music period. These highly influential entertainers are promoting a destructive lifestyle to young, impressionable minds. And as you yourself acknowledge, this is all by design. And Your "Europeans are the biggest consumers of rap" argument is laughably irrelevant. This alone tells me how narrow-minded your thinking is.

The sad truth is that people like you with your mindset are aiding these Europeans in their continued assault on the black mans'image and keeping us in an ignorant mindstate. Open your eyes to the bigger picture.

 

[Texas2step]

I have no problem with what he said. His opinion difffers from others that's all and I can respect that. He couched his argument in a clear and concise manner. Nothing he said was overboard or this dumb shyt people say c00nish. Difference of opinion shouldn't be frowned upon, you should accept it and engage in dialogue.

The problem is that his statement had no merit, it nothing but a talking point that is spewed out by racist. #Blacklivesmatter wasn't started because a white person killed a black person, it is about not getting any JUSTICE when they do it. With black on black crime there is always justice which why there isn't a lot noise being made about it

 

[superunknown23]

Some of yall seem shocked

Seriously... he's a black republican.
That should be a dead giveaway

 

[muzikfrk75]

Seriously... he's a black republican.
That should be a dead giveaway

Sheeeeeet.....Greg Anthony is a black republican too and isn't doing a third of the c00nery Stephen A is doing

 

[Victim of Racism]

Your whole argument keeps resting on what white people are doing. Eminem is the white communities problem. Miley Cyrus is the white communities problem. If you cant see that todays INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED hiphop is having a negative affect GLOBALLY on the black community, then i dont know what to tell u. You blame me of "twisting your words", well you're doing the same with me by suggesting that im saying rap is CAUSING ppl to sell drugs. Yes, ppl sold drugs b4 and will continue to do so after. But you're missing the big picture of what this hiphop culture is doing to us. You (along with many other posters) seem to be extremely shortsighted on the power of music period. These highly influential entertainers are promoting a destructive lifestyle to young, impressionable minds. And as you yourself acknowledge, this is all by design. And Your "Europeans are the biggest consumers of rap" argument is laughably irrelevant. This alone tells me how narrow-minded your thinking is.

The sad truth is that people like you with your mindset are aiding these Europeans in their continued assault on the black mans'image and keeping us in an ignorant mindstate. Open your eyes to the bigger picture.

Hol' up, so you actually believe we don't buy Em's music, even though he's Dre's protégé and is doing our music? Em himself knows better than that. You don't remember the line "if I was black, I would've sold half; I didn't have to graduate from high school to know that". Who do you think Dre was trying get to embrace Em by being the face of his music? You don't remember when Benzino tried to get us to divest from or boycott his music by exposing his lyrics calling us "n*ggers, porch monkeys, spear-chuckers, and moon-crickets"? You don't remember how it didn't work, how we accepted Em excuses that turned out to be lies, how we defended him, and that we're still defending him today? Charlemagne defended Em just 2 years ago when Benzino came to the Breakfast Club by falsely accusing Benzino of "slandering" Em.

You don't think rappers like Rakim, Drake, and Lupé worshipping him by calling him the G.O.A.T. and best the out today is helping him maintain his Afrikan audience? You don't think him being one of the most respected emcees is helping him maintain his Afrikan audience? You think Miley imitating our dances, rapping, and having rappers hasn't brought in Afrikan consumers? That's like saying Timberlake, who was Pharrell and the Neptunes' protégé, had a huge song with the Clipse, and is now Timbaland's protégé, doesn't have Afrikan fans or that Robin Thick, who also does our music doesn't have Afrikan fans. I'm gonna need the date and time we divested from or boycotted their music.

@PhonZhi, glorifying the selling of drugs is not hip-hop culture; it is American culture, so you would do well to stop blaming American rappers who are products of that culture. Glorifying selling drugs did not start with hip-hop and it won't end with it. It started in Hollywood and that's where it will end. And you sound like a hypocrite, as I would put money on the fact that you either pay a fortune at the theater, buy the dvds, pay for cable, or watch basic tv of the very content you're condemning rappers for.

Their music is not having the hypnotic affect on our community that you're so paranoid about, as only 15% of us use drugs, Europeans sell more than we do, and we're not even the main ones buying the music. Your claims of "destruction" from "making it look cool to kids" are false. If it's destroying anyone's community, it's the one you claim not to care about (Europeans).

No one is "aiding" Europeans in anything. They are choosing, on their own, to demonize everything we do, even our poverty. It's called prejudice, and you clearly don't understand how it works because you're so scared of our image in front of Europeans. Should we all become rich, in hopes that they will stop looking down on us as "lazy", "dumb", "welfare, section 8, and food stamp recipients"? If people look down on us for the very things they give others a pass for, they are prejudiced. Why exactly should we care what prejudice people think?

Europeans don't assault our image more because we glorify selling drugs. We got that idea from them. We are a product of their culture. They assault our image because they are prejudice. Copying Hollywood is just the excuse. Your language is also the excuse. Will you stop cursing?

The actual truth is, it is people like you who aid their assault because you have transferred the glorification of selling drugs from American culture to hip-hop culture, and it is you who condemns us for our imperfections — asserting that it's the victims of prejudice who should change, instead of condemning Europeans for their prejudice. If you think us becoming perfect is going to stop assaults on our image, stop prejudiced people from demonizing us in the media, or stop any other mistreatment from prejudiced people, then you are truly lost, need to educate yourself on how prejudice works.