Stephen Jackson- The quickest way for the demise of a successful black man is a bitter black woman

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These dudes still getting picked. :yeshrug:
What we gonna tell them.
:martin: Listen breh you need to slow down and be a responsible father to the kids you already got by multiple women.

:pacspit: fukk you ole dry dikk, no game having ass, no pusay getting punk. I aint married so if these chicks choosing up its all good.:ahh:

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I am just saying don’t want to hear irresponsible men cry about the courts. As much as I don’t completely agree with how the child support system works right now...it’s the only leverage that women have over men when children get in the picture. It was created because men thought they can do whatever they wanted and flee.
I feel the same way about women who complain about aint ish men not taking care of their kids.
 

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Let’s be real...grown black men like a lot of these types don’t criticize black women for lack of accountability a lot of times they bash black women and play I don’t date black women as an ego boost and for a reaction.
I'm sure they do. But does that deflect from the legit criticism of bw bad behavior. In my opinion no.
A lot of bad male behaviour gets deflected on women by men. And vice versa.
A lot of these things they complain about are the same thing they be dealing with...with other women. The difference is it is much easier to build resentment and animosity towards someone who looks like you and with whom you were raised with...
Its not what they look like. Its proximity. If you were surrounded by fukkery explemfied by a certain group of people all your life. The pattern recognition kicks in and you associate those people with the fukkery. But we dont project that dysfunction on people who dont fit the pattern. This isnt exclusive to black people. But it seems more common because we have so much blatant dysfunction on display.
The lack accountability can be seen in equal sums on both sides of gender spectrum in different ways . Men often only claim accountability after they left a mess behind and screwed you up royally and then want start fresh with a new chick.
Who else would claim accountability. Men (to smart for dumb shyt) who dont fukk up arent at fault. And only dudes who made a mess would recognize they made a problematic situation.
If it was up to me a lot of these guys would never be able to be with a woman again until they start addressing their personal issues and become better partners.
All you did is blame the men. Yet they realizing shyt is suboptimal. One day your gonna see the women are just as fukked up but wont admit it.
 

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It makes sense if that same logic uniformly when black women do the same. Loni love shouldn’t have the hate that she received then.
:ehh: Fair ( I will say that loni love issues probably come from the fact that she probably dealing with men out of her league while being physically unattractive.)
 

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I am just saying don’t want to hear irresponsible men cry about the courts. As much as I don’t completely agree with how the child support system works right now...it’s the only leverage that women have over men when children get in the picture. It was created because men thought they can do whatever they wanted and flee.
I feel the same way about women who complain about aint ish men not taking care of their kids.
Why do women need leverage over men?:gucci:
 

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I do not think most people in here are saying women can not be pieces of shyt in regards to child support or visitation rights. But as a man you should not enhance the risk of dealing with that by being irresponsible and impregnating multiple women.

Yes, you can deal with the same issues in an monogamous relationship, but the chances of that happening are much less than having multiple children with multiple women.
 

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Why do women need leverage over men?:gucci:

It is much easier for a man to disassociate from the responsibility of raising children and many do even with the courts. In addition, men don’t put themselves at risk via a pregnancy. Women do...
 

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:ehh: Fair ( I will say that loni love issues probably come from the fact that she probably dealing with men out of her league while being physically unattractive.)

Loni love is no instragram model but she is not unattractive. As for men out of league since I don’t know who these men are nor seen them...I cannot come to that conclusion. And the many black men that say that say this out of bitterness for their aint ish behaviour being called out on a public platform.
 
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All you did is blame the men. Yet they realizing shyt is suboptimal. One day your gonna see the women are just as fukked up but wont admit it.

I have no issue recognizing women are messed up and I do. I didn’t blame men I bring attention to what men leave out.

it’s like dudes telling you about their crazy girlfriends and ‘forgetting’ to mention all the things they did to get that level. A lot of men are like this they like to pick apart women reaction as a deflection to their part in a breakdown. A lot of men are not as accountable as they think they are. Accountability to me means taking responsibility in the midst of a situation when there is still a chance to rectify it.
Stephen has learned nothing he is just tired of getting dragged through the courts.
A man like woman need to have sexual discipline.
 

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It is much easier for a man to disassociate from the responsibility of raising children and many do even with the courts. In addition, men don’t put themselves at risk via a pregnancy. Women do...
First off complications of pregnancy have zero to do with child support so lets nix that idea right here.

Why does leverage have to be exercised over a man when the child doesnt have to be here. Abortions are legal. At some point in a pregnancy a woman makes a conscious decision to bring the child here to whatever situation she in. It is a unilateral decision. The man does not get a say.

Why should a man have to be held responsible for a womans unilateral decision.
 

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Loni love is no instragram model but she is not unattractive. As for men out of league since I don’t know who these men are nor seen them...I cannot come to that conclusion. And the many black men that say that say this out of bitterness for their aint ish behaviour being called out on a public platform.
Loni love is unattractive. Full stop.

Loni love was trying to date successful men while being unattractive. Which is like broke, short, ugly dudes trying to wife up instragam models. Its hard sell.

There is a reason loni love complains about black men at every opportunity while being in a relationship with a white dude but jeannie mai and tamery morwry(who are actually in relationships with black) are much less critical.
 

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No, you didn't fix it.

The approach towards this is really quite simple. If you go out and smash a window, is it society's responsibility to fix that window?

The people who want the children should be the first port of call. The people who played a role in the child coming to be should be the second. Society should cover the remainder.

Don't want to be in that situation? Pick up more sensible habits like using a condom and avoiding thots.
 

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I have no issue recognizing women are messed up and I do. I didn’t blame men I bring attention to what men leave out.

it’s like dudes telling you about their crazy girlfriends and ‘forgetting’ to mention all the things they did to get that level. A lot of men are like this they like to pick apart women reaction as a deflection to their part in a breakdown. A lot of men are not as accountable as they think they are. Accountability to me means taking responsibility in the midst of a situation when there is still a chance to rectify it.
Stephen has learned nothing he is just tired of getting dragged through the courts.
A man like woman need to have sexual discipline.
It doesnt matter what " accountability means to you". The word has a definition. People take accountability after the fact all the time. shyt thats what justice system is supposed to be.

And the statement wasnt that men are always accountable or paragons of virtue. Its that there more accountable than women. Again show me the celebrity woman with a bunch of baby daddies saying she fukked up and shouldve married one man.

If you beat the guys over the head enough they will eventually listen. The women pssh forget about it.
 

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No, you didn't fix it.

The approach towards this is really quite simple. If you go out and smash a window, is it society's responsibility to fix that window?

The people who want the children should be the first port of call. The people who played a role in the child coming to be should be the second. Society should cover the remainder.

Don't want to be in that situation? Pick up more sensible habits like using a condom and avoiding thots.
Why should society hold any responsibility
No, you didn't fix it.

The approach towards this is really quite simple. If you go out and smash a window, is it society's responsibility to fix that window?

The people who want the children should be the first port of call. The people who played a role in the child coming to be should be the second. Society should cover the remainder.

Don't want to be in that situation? Pick up more sensible habits like using a condom and avoiding thots.
I can fix the window to where its new without incurring the cost on anybody else.

People can get abortions without incurring the cost on anybody else.

Abortions are legal. The child doesnt have to be here.

If two people wanted them here it is the two peoples responsibility. If one person wanted them here it is that sole individuals responsibility. Nowhere is it societies responsibility .

And if consensual sex doesnt REQUIRE a woman have a child it shouldnt REQUIRE a man support said child.
 

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