Stereogum exposes Drake's Views fake numbers

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Also, Apple could have 100 million subscribers, Spotify 100 million, and Tidal 3 million. I'd still rather be tidal. Anyone fixated on huge difference in members missed the whole point of why tidal exists. Its precisely to be independent of 2 tech behemoths that would ultimately be ya masters
If you'd rather be Tidal, I think you have bad business sense.
If you are looking to get money in the gameand you have 3 mill users, against Apple with 15, Spotify 100 mil and you are content, you have a problem.

Isn't Tidal losing money by the way?
1) One thing this fool forgot was that Drakes singles that have dominated Spotify were on Spotify :snoop:

2) The way Drake cheated was cause Hotline Bling the most played song on Spotify 2015, probably Tidal and Apple too. Then One Dance which is probably 2016 most played song, these songs were counted in the first week numbers.

3) How can Views only have done 600 million Spotify when One Dance alone has done more than that?

4) He's mixing up global numbers, American billboards, Global users and on.

5) Why isn't he mentioning other platforms as if Apple and Spotify are the only ones?

That long ass article and he couldn't even figure out what nikkas said prior to the album even being released. Drake is the most streamed artist of all times.


Why only Drake? Why not Taylor who is bigger, Future and Khaled?

nikkas eat anything anyone says as long as it fits their agenda, even if it's just some square summer intern at an internet blog.

He didn't forget that Drake's singles were doing well on Spotify. He literally said that Drake was succesful on spotify and that its his success on Spotify to 645 mil streams that doesn't make sense when the vastly smaller Apple is claiming he had over a billion streams.

He didn't mix up global and american numbers.
He mentioned other streamers but broke it down that marketplace wise they are too small to even be relevant to the conversation.
Its clear you didn't read the article at all and are just copping pleas.

this is sad
 

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If you'd rather be Tidal, I think you have bad business sense.
If you are looking to get money in the gameand you have 3 mill users, against Apple with 15, Spotify 100 mil and you are content, you have a problem.

Isn't Tidal losing money by the way?


He didn't forget that Drake's singles were doing well on Spotify. He literally said that Drake was succesful on spotify and that its his success on Spotify to 645 mil streams that doesn't make sense when the vastly smaller Apple is claiming he had over a billion streams.

He didn't mix up global and american numbers.
He mentioned other streamers but broke it down that marketplace wise they are too small to even be relevant to the conversation.
Its clear you didn't read the article at all and are just copping pleas.

this is sad
I read the article and he's mixing up numbers.

He forgot to account for the fact that the singles on Spotify were accounted for in the first week numbers, it wasn't exclusively Apple album numbers.

And he mentioned them, but he didn't account for them if Apple has 15 million, 2/5 are hiphop/rnb heads and 1/1 on Tidal are hiphop/RnB heads we are not far away. Then add that there's like 14 other streams those accumulated are significant, probably more significant than Apple.

When articles are this basic, I have to fact check and there's too many holes for me to consider anything in this article at all. Even today, Drakes 3 biggest songs on Spotify are doing 3 million streams per day in the US and they are slowing down.

Also how am I copping pleas? Dude is just throwing out some numbers and questioning their validity. He has not found any proof, comments or anything.
 
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I read the article and he's mixing up numbers.

He forgot to account for the fact that the singles on Spotify were accounted for in the first week numbers, it wasn't exclusively album numbers.

And he mentioned them, but he didn't account for them if Apple has 15 million, 2/5 are hiphop/rnb heads and 1/1 on Tidal are hiphop/RnB heads we are not far away. Then add that there's like 14 other streams those accumulated are significant, probably more significant than Apple.

When articles are this basic, I have to fact check and there's too many holes for me to consider anything in this article at all. Even today, Drakes 3 biggest songs on Spotify are doing 3 million streams per day in the US and they are slowing down.

Nah i think you are mixed up.
Spotify ddn't get the official stream until 2 weeks after the exclusivity ended thouh.

Drake isn't a hiphop/rnB artist, he is a pop artist.

Drake's biggest songs are doing 3 mil per day, as the article stated first week on spotify they were doing around 10 mil per day.

You question the number of albums, the official state for abulm streams is 1500 tracks from that album streamed, that equals 1 album.. So when you take in all the tracks streamed the number for the views album sounda bout right to me.

That said, its not the spotify numbers that are shady, its the apple numbers.
The userbase to push out those numbers alone is extremely questionable.
 

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Nah i think you are mixed up.
Spotify ddn't get the official stream until 2 weeks after the exclusivity ended thouh.

Drake isn't a hiphop/rnB artist, he is a pop artist.

Drake's biggest songs are doing 3 mil per day, as the article stated first week on spotify they were doing around 10 mil per day.

You question the number of albums, the official state for abulm streams is 1500 tracks from that album streamed, that equals 1 album.. So when you take in all the tracks streamed the number for the views album sounda bout right to me.

That said, its not the spotify numbers that are shady, its the apple numbers.
The userbase to push out those numbers alone is extremely questionable.
No, I'm not mixing it up, Hotline Bling and One Dance were on Spotify, Tidal and every other service.
He's not accounting for the multiple other streaming services, nor the singles that Billboard reported were accounted for in the streams even the singles released before the album. While this dude is getting Spotify's numbers from after the release date. So one he is including every other streaming service in Apple's streams + all Spotify's and the other services streams before the album was released. While for Spotify's he's doing it from post release.

Do you remember why the reason to why Drake put Hotline Bling on the album? It was to hustle the system.


I like investigate reports, but I don't like when people are weak with numbers, downplay the weight of their assumptions and lack knowledge about the very system they are investigating. That's just me though, 7 years of skeptically going through academic papers will do that to you.

This dude at least wants to do a good job (I assume), unlike the Coli nikkas who would not even post this article again if he corrects it cause they can sleep good now. Like people that watch Foxnews and don't want to hear about how much they lie.
 
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No, I'm not mixing it up, Hotline Bling and One Dance were on Spotify, Tidal and every other service.
He's not accounting for the multiple other streaming services, nor the singles that Billboard reported were accounted for in the streams even the singles released before the album. While this dude is getting Spotify's numbers from after the release date. So one he is including every other streaming service in Apple's streams + all Spotify's and the other services streams before the album was released. While for Spotify's he's doing it from post release.

Do you remember why the reason to why Drake put Hotline Bling on the album? It was to hustle the system.

Yes we know they were on spotify and other services, this isn't being excluded or not acknowledged.
There was a one week exclusivity with Apple, that is all the author is acknowledging (Drake’s upcoming album ‘Views From The 6’ will be an Apple Music exclusive, but only for a week) I was wrong in saying 2 weeks.

He disregards Tidal, Napster, and others because the userbase of subscribers is so small, he states this up front. He uses the 2 main streamers that account for 95% of the market, his estimation.

He is reporting numbers from Spotify from what his sources in spotify have told him. Apple has made public claims, and using spotify's numbers since is is clearly the market leader, he is able to deduce the numbers Apple is claiming they are getting in house from the album and quite frankly they don't add up.

So in short, everything you are claiming he doesn't account for, he openly accounts for and gives a rationale. You then claimed streams of singles as if this had a direct 1 to 1 relation with album streams (it doesn't)

As for Hotline Bling on the album, who cares, its accounted for, doesn't change the fact those Apple numbers are funny in the light considering their userbase. Hell you would have to assume 100% of Aplple's subscribers were Drake diehards to even come close to partially making those numbers a reality and that is a joke, just like those Beyonce numbers from Tidal.
 

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I swear to god nikkas are stupid.

IF HE DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR HOTLINE BLING IN THE SPOTIFY STREMS, HE IS INCLUDED THEM IN THE APPLE STREAMS.

ONE DANCE AND HOTLINE BLING 2016 AND 2015' MOST STREAMED SINGLES WERE ON SPOTIFY AND APPLE AND EVERY OTHER SERVICE BEFORE THE ALBUM WAS RELEASED. THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCLUDED IN BILLBOARDS COUNT. MEANING HE IS INCLUDING THESE IN APPLES AS WELL.

Si no lo hace dar cuenta de BLING LÍNEA DIRECTA EN LA SPOTIFY STREMS, les está incluido en el CORRIENTES DE APPLE.

UNA DANZA Y LINEA DE BLING 2016 y 2015 'sencillos más escuchados en Spotify FUERON Y APPLE Y CUALQUIER OTRO SERVICIO ANTES del lanzamiento del álbum. Esos números son INCLUIDOS EN VALLAS COUNT. Indicando que Él existe la inclusión de estos en las manzanas, ASÍ.

It's impossible to discuss with people who have Drakes dikk so far up their ass, I don't even know why I'm discussing methodology or Drake with you dudes. I'm out.
 
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