American exceptionalism but Black
Steve Harvey turnt the fukk up: "Them Africans is us!! / "My goal is to bridge this gap"
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American exceptionalism but Black
All due respect, I have no clue what your point is with this post.
Could be because I’m tired. Clarify it for me, if you will and I might have a better grasp when I wake up tomorrow.
The basis of your post seems to be that Africans and African-descended people in the west have similar struggles and experiences.
Which is true, but that doesn’t mean that we are the exact same culturally.
Native Americans have dealt with racism and currently deal with gang violence. We aren’t the same as them culturally. Same with non-black Latinos.
Hell, China had an entire drug war with Great Britain and low key the Philippines is about to be America’s next big drug supplier.
Having similar struggles and experiences doesn’t mean you are the same culturally. Sorry.
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This is what it boils down too you want us to denounce our American identity and claim some generic "African" identity.
WetinBeDat
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Which people are stopping you from identifying and distinguishing yourselves and how are they doing so?
Voice of Reason
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The people bytching and whining that we are xenophobic for claiming our own unique cultural identity.
It's late. I am about to sign-off shortly as well.
Very similar. Not much difference. But there are clearly differences as mentioned @Acid Cannon but none of those differences explain the animosity I've seen since the inception of ADOS. At least Yvette was honest and said this was more about education than anything else which I respect wholeheartedly but I know the real truth and even had it confirmed by many people in high places as well so I see things differently.
We are way more similar culturally than we aren't, especially if we are talking naturally and not learned behavior due to dealing with cacs for survival.
Natives have some Black folk in the mix so it's difficult to use on the same brush for them all. Even then, they tend to align with Black folks as we see in Alaska if in a similar environment. I believe if that native has Black in them, they will do things naturally like their ancestor in Africa. That shyt you can't control, you just get, that's the shyt I am talking about. Anything else is learned behavior and that's environment based.
Black latinos is a prime example. Another group that's a lot closer to their Black heritage than vice versa. Even the lighter Bad Bunny's and Fat Joe's got soul. If anything, they are very culturally similar and have roots to Africa.
If you trying to say White people been satan to everyone, yes but not like to Black people all over the world. We all know that. You know better than to say that honestly.
I have NEVER seen anyone use the term, xenophobia against black folks unless they were being clearly xenophobic. It's odd that you would even give this as an answer.
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Likewise.
Exactly. African Americans are a distinct ethnic group. Peoples and their cultures evolve and change. One of the driving forces of that change is the geographic environment. African Americans have a distinct history within the USA, so of course the resulting culture will be distinct. The same for say Jamaicans, Haitians, Afro-Brazilians etc.
Indeed. Afro-descendants of the Americas are a mix of West and Central African peoples, From Senegal, all the way along the Atlantic coast to Angola.
Haitians mainly descend from Beninese Fon and Bakongo people from Western Congo.
Afro-Brazilians mainly descend from Angolans, Western Congolese and Yorubas from Nigeria.
Jamaicans mainly descend from Ghanaians, Southern Nigerians (mainly SE Nigerians like the Igbo, Efik, etc) and Western Congolese.
Yet, just because we descend from certain peoples, doesn't mean we're the same culturally
There we go. Genetic similarity doesn't mean cultural similarity.
I understand his sentiment
Likewise.
I don't see how you get that from all the positive things people have been writing itt, sounds like you don't know much about Pan-Africanism and are resentful of your relation to how others see Black people worldwide.
We aren't one big nikka and that's ok. What the hell does have to do with American exceptionalism? Back the fukk up and get off our nuts. Damn
This has been repeated throughout the thread and literally no one is saying this.
That ADOS/FBA thing is peak level ‘don’t let them trick you out of your position’. I dont care who you are, how far gone from it you are, you are NOTHING without an origin. Without culture.
It’s gonna show up in other areas eventually: Fatherless homes, crabs in a barrel, Gender war, black culture being led by women
Obsession with hood culture(!!) 
It’s not direct but it’s a byproduct. Throwing religion/spirituality in the bushes.Throwing elders in the bushes. Even with this black folk ain’t gon do nothing but tell Steve Harvey to sit his old as down…hit him with a ‘ain’t you the one…’, bring up how he did Benrie Mac wrong, etc. anything to invalidate his message. The ship is too large to turn now
It’s gonna show up in other areas eventually: Fatherless homes, crabs in a barrel, Gender war, black culture being led by women
Obsession with hood culture(!!) It’s not direct but it’s a byproduct. Throwing religion/spirituality in the bushes.Throwing elders in the bushes. Even with this black folk ain’t gon do nothing but tell Steve Harvey to sit his old as down…hit him with a ‘ain’t you the one…’, bring up how he did Benrie Mac wrong, etc. anything to invalidate his message. The ship is too large to turn now
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HimmyHendrix
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What it really is, Is that black American culture has become the default “black” culture, and so many people like to dip in and out of it, both taking part in their actual culture (Haitian, Senegalese, etc) but also being able to dip into ours for resources, social advantages, and educational boosts (applying for grants and scholarships literally created for black Americans).
It’s the ability to double dip culturally, all the time. So much so that taking ownership, and taking pride in OUR culture, is seen as xenophobia and hatred.
But these people would never allow the inverse. A black American moving to Nigeria, and taking part in its politics, speaking down or patronizing to native born Nigerians would be received very poorly.
But becuase we have owned blackness, pushed it, molded it, become the face of it, and we are the only true “black culture” any gate keeping is a xenophobic attack.
There is no other black culture besides black American culture because no other culture is designed around blackness except for ours. A part of that is being the minority population in a place where you are constantly othered and having to build through that oppression. The other part of it is that most of the other black countries identify with nationality before race, which is why You have Chinese-Jamaicans and Indian-Trinidadians, who both take pride in Jamaican culture
But there are not Chinese-Black Americans, there is just us. And for that reason we are the only true black culture.
And taking that culture away from people (even though they had no part in its cultivation) is hurtful. But necessary.
Delineation is not hate, it’s just what’s needed.
How would you respond to this?
The push back comes because these people don't want to give Black Americans zero room to identify and distinguish ourselves.
