Steve Kerr was right about lebron

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Codeine Fiend Dream Team said:
Jesus Christ you're an idiot.

You repeatedly bring up "2000 Kobe" as if that's all he ever was. Like there was no 2001 Kobe. Or 2002 Kobe.

And you literally just discuss his 2000 Finals performance and extrapolate that to be his entire career from the day he was drafted until he won in 2009 and 2010.


Question, do you actually watch basketball?

2001 Semis: Lakers 4 - Kings 0
Kobe: 35ppg, 9rpg, 4.3apg, 1.3spg, 0.5bpg on 47.3% shooting
Shaq: 33.3ppg, 17.3rpg, 2.3apg, 0.5spg, 3.3bpg on 59.8% shooting

2001 WCF: Lakers 4 - Spurs 0
Kobe: 33.3ppg, 7rpg, 7apg, 1.5spg, 0.8bpg on 51% shooting
Shaq: 27ppg, 13rbpg, 2.5apg, 0.8spg, 1.3bpg on 54% shooting

Sooooo... Kobe was getting CARRIED those series? Oh, that's right. This doesn't fit your narrative.
Let me guess, your dumbass thinks he's not touching Sam Jones or Scottie Pippen...


2001 NBA Finals: Lakers 4 - 76ers 1
Kobe: 24.6, 7.8, 5.8, 1.4, 1.4 on 41.5%
Shaq: 33, 15.8, 4.8, 0.4, 3.4 on 57.3%




2002 Semis: Lakers 4 - Spurs 1
Kobe: 26.2, 5.4, 4.8, 1.0, 0.2 on 45.5%
Shaq: 21.4, 12.2, 3.2, 0.6, 3.0 on 44.7%

2002 WCF: Lakers 4 - Kings 3
Kobe: 27.1, 6.3, 3.9, 1.4, 1.1 on 41.9%
Shaq: 30.0, 13.6, 1.6, 0.4, 2.4 on 53.2%

2002 Finals: Lakers 4 - Nets 0
Kobe: 26.8, 5.8, 5.3, 1.5, 0.8 on 51.4%
Shaq: 36.3, 12.3, 3.8, 0.5, 2.8 on 59.5%



Let's go ahead and take it back to 2000, since that's the only year you apparently think Kobe played in before he won back to back in 2009 and 2010.


2000 First Round: Lakers 3 - Kings 2
Kobe: 27.8, 4.4, 3.6, 1.2, 0.6 on 49.6%
Shaq: 29.4, 17.4, 2.8, 0.8, 2.6 on 54.3%

2000 Semis: Lakers 4 - Suns 1
Kobe: 21, 3.8, 3.4, 2, 1.4 on 45.2%
Shaq: 30.2, 16.2, 2.6, 0.4, 2.6 on 55.9%

2000 WCF: Lakers 4 - Blazers 3
Kobe: 20.4, 4.9, 5.9, 1.6, 2.1 on 43.9%
Shaq: 25.9, 12.4, 4.3, 0.1, 1.9 on 53.7%

2000 Finals aka Your Favorite Series aka The Only Series You Ever Refer To aka The Only Series Kobe Has Ever Played aka The Crux Of Your Entire Dumbass Argument: Lakers 4 - Pacers 2

Kobe: 15.6, 4.6, 4.2, 1.0, 1.4 on 36.7%
Shaq: 38, 16.7, 2.3, 1.0, 2.7 on 61.1%



So there you have it. Since you don't actually watch, follow, and/or remember basketball, I went ahead and laid out his title runs for you. I didn't include the 1st rounds of 2001 and 2002 but you can go ahead and look those up on your own if you want. I'm sure your'e DYING to find a 3-5 game sample size to extrapolate for 10+ years of his career in order to continue your LeBron stanning.


I went ahead and bolded the ones where Kobe seemingly was the better player than Shaq. There's not a lot, but what do you honestly expect given that Shaq was one of the most dominant big men to EVER play the game in his PRIME at the time, and Kobe was still not even 25 years old?

You telling me Sam Jones would have ever outplayed prime Shaq as his teammate in those series?
You telling me Scottie Pippen would have ever outplayed prime Shaq as his teammate in those series?


Go ahead and discount his ring from 2000 if you want since you seem to think only 1 playoff series was played that year and Kobe's performance wasn't to your liking.

He would still have 4 rings at that point. 2 more than Bron. And no, I just showed your dumbass that he wasn't merely a "sidekick" for those 2001 and 2002 rings. He was a budding superstar in the league putting up superstar numbers in the playoffs.




Please, when you get done reading this and decide to quote me, explain how exactly his 2001 and 2002 years and rings don't count in this LeBron vs. Kobe discussion you have going on in your head.

Also, I look forward to you nitpicking my post and finding semantics to argue about since that's all you seem to be able to do. The point of that 50 win image was to delineate just how shytty the Eastern Conference is compared to the West and how LeBron struggles when he plays against the West, whereas Kobe has always faced better competition in his postseason career consistently. Apparently all of that went over your head because you were too confused with what his actual number of wins was when it's merely a fraction of Kobe's and doesn't change the point of the image at all.

Also, every year LeBron has had the opportunity to either play the team that would then face the best team in the West, a team that would later go on and challenge to play the best team in the West, or play the best team in the West himself. He's only come out on top 2 times.

Funny how you use the transitive property on Kobe, but it seemingly doesn't apply to LeBron. What a genius argument you have constructed.



No wonder people in this thread are clowning on you. You've been using one playoff series from 2001 to define Kobe over a 3-5 year period.

You're a real intelligent guy :skip:
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U really doin God's work you know that:mjcry:?
 
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StillNotSoft said:
That LeBron dissappear like a bytch,and can't score as many ways as great players...don't get all cocky now cuz they won a title,it was on Kyrie back:sas1:
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So kyrie lead both teams in scoring, rebounds, assists blocks and steals?

kyrie had the biggest block in nba history?

I'd like a DVR of what game you were watching
 
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Juggalo Fred said:
So kyrie lead both teams in scoring, rebounds, assists blocks and steals?

kyrie had the biggest block in nba history?

I'd like a DVR of what game you were watching
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Boxscores:mjlol:...everybody watching the series watched Kyrie put the team on his back qhen it mattered,including game 7.
 
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