Stevie Wonder or Michael Jackson?

[Paper Boi]

michael but they are both goats

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Michael

strong username to post correlation

 

[papa pimp]

I took a history of Motown class last summer and when we got to Stevie Wonder's career it was


And that's no exaggeration, if anything it's an understatement


you can't use the most recent relevance argument like it's rap(which is stupid in that genre too)


Stevie's run in the 70s-creatively, critically, commercially, and Grammy-wise is absolutely unparalleled in the history of music




This is almost an apples and oranges comparison, Mike is the best entertainer to ever live and overall is the second most famous person to ever live after Jesus

that being said, Stevie is the best pure musician, writer, creator, composer in the history of music, and this is not up for debate.

ngas throwing out names like Marvin and anybody else really don't know their history.


I'm biased because while I was there for and grew up in the cultural phenomena that was Michael Jackson, Stevie got the most play in the house I was raised in. And he's someone I listened to as a teen, in adulthood, and now as a middle aged man


I got no problem with anybody picking Mike, but ngas outta pocket acting like this is some kind of landslide victory

most people are casual consumers of music not students

for them "hits" and performing will trump deep cuts on an album or complex or groundbreaking composing

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Can’t do it

 

[PatCake]

Relax to Stevie, get psyched by MJ. It's hard to choose honestly.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

most people are casual consumers of music not consumers

for them "hits" and performing will trump deep cuts on an album or complex or groundbreaking composing

well the premise of the thread was "who makes better music?" so I went with Stevie.


Mike, Stevie, and James Brown are three guys I feel like music and the world in general would not be the same had they not existed.

I'm sure there's a few others I could throw in there from other genres, but I'm not well versed in jazz, blues, rock and roll enough to determine who else belongs in that pantheon.

Miles Davis?
Jimmy Hendrix?
Louis Armstrong?
Charlie Parker?
John Coltrane?
Little Richard?
Chuck Berry?


there's paradigm shifters out there and I'm not gonna bother to put them into tiers. because of the above mentioned, and I'm sure I'm missing others, I can't truly gauge their impact because I wasn't there
and/or haven't put in the sweat equity to learn enough about them, but at least I have a pretty good idea

 

[boogers]

Jimmy Hendrix?

cmon man. its jimi, not jimmy. get your shyt together

 

[Braman]

My sentiment is the same when it comes to MJ vs Prince; MJ is hurt by his fame. He got so big that he had to make pop. Prince and Stevie—-in their prime—-didn’t have to. So they get the edge.

Bc musically, songs like Billie Jean, even thriller itself, aren’t MJ’s best songs they’re just the most popular. They’re a bit, dare I say, cheesy. A lot of his pop stuff didn’t really age well musically

 

[Roland Coltrane]

cmon man. its jimi, not jimmy. get your shyt together

his mamma named him Jimmy I'ma call him Jimmy

 

[fscballin]

I'm a huge MJ stan, but Stevie has better vocal abilities, better song writing skills, was a better musician, and had greater longevity even at Michael Jackson's death.

 

[jj23]

I think Stevie Wonder is the greatest musician of all time so I gotta go with him.

Agreed. The question is who makes better music, not who is the better entertainer. In that respect it really isn't close.

 

[TMBlue]

MJ outsang Stevie in their duet "Get It"

But Stevie is an EXCELLENT vocalist, and he and MJ have a very similar vocal style.

 

[darryl]

My sentiment is the same when it comes to MJ vs Prince; MJ is hurt by his fame. He got so big that he had to make pop. Prince and Stevie—-in their prime—-didn’t have to. So they get the edge.

Bc musically, songs like Billie Jean, even thriller itself, aren’t MJ’s best songs they’re just the most popular. They’re a bit, dare I say, cheesy. A lot of his pop stuff didn’t really age well musically

Exactly breh. Bad, beat it,etc all corny. The videos were other wordly, but the song itself were corny. R Kelly would give mike a run for his money tbh but folks don't wanna hear that

 

[HipHopStan]

Useless story, but I'll share it anyway: My mom kept all of her ticket stubs from concerts she went to in the 60's, 70's, and 80's (before I came along and ruined everything) and one of them was for Stevie Wonder with the Jackson 5 opening up for him. The cost of the ticket: $11. As a matter of fact - she saw Elton John, The Rolling Stones, Sonny & Cher, Jimmy Buffet, James Brown, Tina Turner, KISS, etc. for $20 or less. That will forever blow my mind.

 

[TMBlue]

Exactly breh. Bad, beat it,etc all corny. The videos were other wordly, but the song itself were corny. R Kelly would give mike a run for his money tbh but folks don't wanna hear that

Crazy Talk.

And R Kelly is one of the greats, but he's not giving MJ a run for is money.