Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

[JackRoss]

She’s making 30 million people on the verge of starvation and eviction eat shyt, too, you pathetic bootlicker.

Starvation? Lol

 

[JackRoss]

what good is that if she doesnt take it

I forget the name of it but do you think she's holding out because rethugs and Moscow refuse to get rid of that liability thing? You know where you can't sue if you get it thing. I know that wasn't very nuanced but you get where I'm coming from.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

The idea that Pelosi should take the deal and "put the ball in McConnell's court" is nonsense because McConnell has said multiple times that they don't have the votes for it in the Senate.

And he gives no fukks about it anyway, so there is no ball to put in his court.

 

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[the cac mamba]

The idea that Pelosi should take the deal and "put the ball in McConnell's court" is nonsense because McConnell has said multiple times that they don't have the votes for it in the Senate.

And he gives no fukks about it anyway, so there is no ball to put in his court.

bullshyt. let the senate republicans tell america themselves that they wont vote for it, 3 weeks before an election with their senate majority on the line

nancy is so fukkin stupid and clueless that by not agreeing, she's just letting them get away with saying "the pelosi deal is ridiculous liberal AOC garbage". that excuse is gone overnight if nancy takes the mnuchin/trump deal

you guys are fukking killing me

 

[the cac mamba]

I forget the name of it but do you think she's holding out because rethugs and Moscow refuse to get rid of that liability thing? You know where you can't sue if you get it thing. I know that wasn't very nuanced but you get where I'm coming from.

nah, shes holding out because shes trying to create a massive slush fund for blue states so democrats can keep spending and avoid accountability. but the mnuchin bill "isnt enough"

which is fine, great.i dont give a fukk. but shes not getting any of it so in about 5 days her position is gonna officially become "sorry guys, nothing is better than something". its embarrassing

 

[AquaCityBoy]

bullshyt. let the senate republicans tell america themselves that they wont vote for it, 3 weeks before an election with their senate majority on the line

They don't care, so this ultimately achieves nothing.

Whether Pelosi takes the deal or not is nothing more than a game of perceived optics, and accomplishes nothing for the American people.

 

[JackRoss]

nah, shes holding out because shes trying to create a massive slush fund for blue states so democrats can keep spending and avoid accountability. but the mnuchin bill "isnt enough"

which is fine, great.i dont give a fukk. but shes not getting any of it so in about 5 days her position is gonna officially become "sorry guys, nothing is better than something". its embarrassing

What do you by slush funds? What's the difference between 2.2 and 1.8? Rethugs seem to be coming up on the price. Explain to me like I'm a child. I need pictures and colors.

 

[the cac mamba]

The real risk in Pelosi’s hardball is that should Trump lose in November and the Senate flips, is there going to be a deal in the lame duck? Or will it be sabotage things for Biden and Dems coming in?

There is a funding bill needed to be passed in December, another continuing resolution. But that’s the only other window before Inauguration Day.

But taking a deal for sake of deal isn’t what she should do. Especially since rich people don’t need anymore tax breaks and backdoor slush funds.

why would there be a deal in the lame duck the republicans arent gonna give up a dime after november

pelosi has one piece of leverage only: shaming the republicans into signing what she can reasonably get from mnuchin, because the election is weeks away. and shes completely squandered it

this should be the end of her tenure as speaker. a child could see that her best course is to take the 1.8 tomoro

 

[the cac mamba]

They don't care, so this ultimately achieves nothing.

Whether Pelosi takes the deal or not is nothing more than a game of perceived optics, and accomplishes nothing for the American people.

yes, they do care. every senate republican fighting for their seat would have signed the mnuchin bill to stay afloat, ONCE trump got on twitter telling them to

or if they didnt, theres still no deal so pelosi is in the same situation, and every one of those republicans drops 5 points in the polls

come on breh this isnt rocket science

 

[the cac mamba]

What do you by slush funds? What's the difference between 2.2 and 1.8? Rethugs seem to be coming up on the price. Explain to me like I'm a child. I need pictures and colors.

the dems want a ton of money for cities and states, but since the republicans only signed off on some money but not all of it, pelosi is gonna "hold out" and none of us will get anything

pelosi has deluded herself into thinking shes in a position of power. look at naps posts as an example, if you dont have him on ignore

 

[AquaCityBoy]

yes, they do care. every senate republican fighting for their seat would have signed the bill to stay afloa

I'm sorry, but no. If that were true, they would have passed something in the five months since the Heroes Act. They didn't just wake up today and realize an election was coming in November. If they wanted to pass another stimulus, they would have.

or if they didnt, theres still no deal so pelosi is in the same situation. come on breh this isnt rocket science

Exactly. That's why whether Pelosi takes the deal or not is a pointless game of optics. We the American people get nothing, and people would still be complaining.

 

[the cac mamba]

I'm sorry, but no. If that were true, they would have passed something in the five months since the Heroes Act. They didn't just wake up today and realize an election was coming in November. If they wanted to pass another stimulus, they would have.



Exactly. That's why whether Pelosi takes the deal or not is a pointless game of optics. We the American people get nothing, and people would still be complaining.

you're dead wrong for the 20th time, one of 2 things would happen

trump gets on twitter screaming at the senate repubs to take the deal, 2 weeks before an election, and they fall in line in 2 seconds

or if they dont, the dems get to directly blame them for there being no stimulus. 2 weeks before an election

where the fukk is the loss? you have zero sense of strategy

 

[AquaCityBoy]

you're dead wrong trump gets on twitter screaming at the senate repubs to take the deal, 2 weeks before an election, snd they fall in lime in 2 seconds

Obviously not because he's been screaming about the stimulus for six months and they still haven't moved.

or if they dont, the dems get to directly blame them for there being no stimulu

Republicans don't care if they get blamed, and all that does is solve nothing for the American people while making Democrats look as weak and feckless as they always do.

 

[JackRoss]

the dems want a ton of money for cities and states, but since the republicans only signed off on some money but not all of it, pelosi is gonna "hold out" and none of us will get anything

Why don't the states deserve the money? We were failed by the federal government. We were failed on a national level. I'm not sure why or how it hurts to supports states that supports states that do the bare minimum. Maybe I'm missing something. It's it more beneficial to help states like New York, California and Illinois because they help to fund states like Kentucky, South Carolina and Mississippi? What am I missing?

I'll say this, I can see why they don't want people draining the country dry with lawsuits and have to bail people (the people they work for) out. But people are gonna pay their bills and buy food because that 1200 in April wasn't shyt.