Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

[the cac mamba]

A) With everything happening at this current second - wait it out.

B) with the current political climate, she does have leverage regardless if you see it or not. A lack of stimulus being passed hurts trump more than dems.

C) Hurting trump = less likely for an re-election. Higher probability of DDD. Timeframe would be either spring, or as I have said before during lame duck when dems have ALL the leverage.

you wana go now?

i said she should have taken the 1.8 about 50 times

so your position is that she should wait until she gets (im guessing 2.2), which won't happen and no one gets anything til february

thanks for answering

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

thank you, finally a straight answer

so you think she should hold out, which most likely means no one gets any money until february. thats all i asked you to say

That was a foregone conclusion. The bloods wanted to drag this out as long as possible until November and here we are. The time to fix this has come and gone, which is why the crips have no reason to compromise at this point.
And all the bloods have left is the supreme court seat.

And if Trump and various bloods lose close races, this shyt will drag out into January which means any stimulus talk will get put on the back burner.

 

[the cac mamba]

That was a foregone conclusion. The bloods wanted to drag this out as long as possible until November and here we are. The time to fix this has come and gone, which is why the crips have no reason to compromise at this point.
And all the bloods have left is the supreme court seat.

And if Trump and various bloods lose close races, this shyt will drag out into January which means any stimulus talk will get put on the back burner.

alright

for the record, i dont agree with your rationale at all about "what is 1200 and 1600 gonna do". itll do plenty for enough people, im not sure why you expect everyone to get a 20 thousand dollar check

if you lost your airline job last week, for example, that 1200 and 1600 a month probably helps a lot

 

[Starski]

i said she should have taken the 1.8 about 50 times

so your position is that she should wait until she gets (im guessing 2.2), which won't happen and no one gets anything til february

thanks for answering

You really think with a dem sweep it will ultimately total T2.2, cute.

I don't care what you would do in Pelosi's shoes.

I wanna know why you said this "nah, shes holding out because shes trying to create a massive slush fund for blue states so democrats can keep spending and avoid accountability. but the mnuchin bill "isnt enough"

Meanwhile, you were in TLR posting how airlines need additional bailouts asap, and ignoring these facts which related to avoiding accountability

Don’t even bother with him, man. He now wants accountability meanwhile wants additional bailouts for airlines that spent a substantial amount of their free cash flows on stock buyback during 2010-2020. Then, another poster says companies can buy them out- which he laughs at. Meanwhile, I mention the 1+ trillion-dollar industry that's the sole business model is to buy companies that are in distress (Private Equity). Also, add in the fact the buying spree Buffet did via Berkshire Hathaway during the 08' crisis. Breh was quiet as hell.

What about free-market capitalism

 

[the cac mamba]

I wanna know why you said this "nah, shes holding out because shes trying to create a massive slush fund for blue states so democrats can keep spending and avoid accountability. but the mnuchin bill "isnt enough"

uh, because it's true. tell me you don't want to get into NY, CT, NJ, IL and CA's finances go post in that "the MTA is failing" thread

but let's just sit back and watch pelosi get absolutely nothing for her voters

 

[Starski]

uh, because it's true. tell me you don't want to get into NY, CT, NJ, IL and CA's finances go post in that "the MTA is failing" thread

but let's just sit back and watch pelosi get absolutely nothing for her voters

ok cool, so u care about blue states finances but not airlines.... interesting.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

YO i asked for YOUR position, not juelzing and bullshytting

why the fukk are you all refusing to answer?

what is YOUR POSITION on how she should proceed, on october 14th, with a 1.8 trillion on the table from mnuchin? how/when will your path lead to her getting her bill passed?

you cant answer this directly? the crips and the bloods? theres not even any wrong answer, im just asking you to have the conviction in your beliefs to say what she should do, like i did

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

i said she should have taken the 1.8 about 50 times

so your position is that she should wait until she gets (im guessing 2.2), which won't happen and no one gets anything til february

thanks for answering

 

[the cac mamba]

ok cool, so u care about blue states finances but not airlines.... interesting.

 

[the cac mamba]

again, you pretend like you're some kind of political operative but you're acting surprised that the republicans plan to obstruct everything when biden wins. that article might as well read "the sun will come up tomorrow"

and you STILL havent answered my question, you're ducking it like crazy

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Omg all I see in this thread is @the cac mamba arhuing for 6 straight days about how Nancy pelosi lost.


Breh, are you that got damn stupid to not see the house pass two bill and McConnell deaded them! Did you not see trump back out of negotiations last week? Did you not hear McConnell say he wasn’t gonna pass shyt recently?
How is this all pelosi a fault when the other side has stalled for half the year, walked away from negotiations and are unwilling to make any concessions?

You need to be banned from this thread. The shyt would run smoother.

 

[the cac mamba]

Omg all I see in this thread is @the cac mamba arhuing for 6 straight days about how Nancy pelosi lost.


Breh, are you that got damn stupid to not see the house pass two bill and McConnell deaded them! Did you not see trump back out of negotiations last week? Did you not hear McConnell say he wasn’t gonna pass shyt recently?
How is this all pelosi a fault when the other side has stalled for half the year, walked away from negotiations and are unwilling to make any concessions?

You need to be banned from this thread. The shyt would run smoother.

i didnt even say she "lost" i said that she clearly has 0 leverage and she should take the bill

you guys really cant stand to hear anything negative about the democrats, huh? you're offended that i think pelosi should take a 1.8 trillion dollar bill to put the republicans in the corner before the election? you're pretending like you dont get the rationale of that? even worse, you actually think she has the leverage to get what she's asking for, and shes not gonna leave every single one of her voters out in the cold for the winter?

jesus

 

[Starski]

You completely ducked my question even though I answered yours

wasted my damn time

good job

 

[the cac mamba]

You completely ducked my question even though I answered yours

wasted my damn time

good job

what question i saw you making up a bunch of shyt and putting words in my mouth. pose it in a question

 

[Starski]

what question i saw you making up a bunch of shyt and putting words in my mouth. pose it in a question

The fact I am still entertaining you is but here we go.

what do you, have no idea how badly the airlines are doing right now? even with that money? they just had to lay off like 30 thousand people

This is from this thread: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/bre...-the-election-update-backtracks.809115/page-6

In the thread to take the stance that Pelosi should have taken the 1.6T. You are obviously sympathizing with airlines right now, explaining how their "dire" situation creates a need for them to receive more stimulus.

In this thread, you explicitly stated that nancy Pelosi is out here using this stimulus deal to get money to poorly managed states, blue states. Bringing up the MTA how they are poorly run and financially managed. I just find it ironic you mention that when it comes to state funding but not a peep out of you regarding this

when will ya’ll realize the fiscal responsibility that you have been taught need only apply to you and not corporations

U.S. Airlines Spent 96% of Free Cash Flow on Buybacks

96% of free cash flow over the span on a decade to stock buy backs to prop up their share price

no rainy day fund in sight. No paying off their debt. Nothing

There is a multi TRILLION dollar industry that’s sole purpose is to buy distressed companies on a discount called private equity(usually private companies but they also buy public companies and take em private.)

Frontier Airlines private equity owner sees good buys in industry turmoil

So now you out here saying pelosi shouldn't be fighting for state funding because they suck at managing their financing.

uh, because it's true. tell me you don't want to get into NY, CT, NJ, IL and CA's finances go post in that "the MTA is failing" thread

but let's just sit back and watch pelosi get absolutely nothing for her voters

So the question is why you sympathizing for airlines and ignore their financial mismanagement for the past decade while at the same time use blue states financial positions as a negative - in fact you want them to be "ACCOUNTABLE". Why not hold these airlines to the same standard?

And before you say some B.S "Oh i just want those 30 thousand people who lost their jobs to have money"
I'd LOVE to see the number of employees NY, CT, NJ, IL, CA have on their payroll.

I'll give you a hint, CA has 888 thousand.