Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

[Serious]

They talkin about full NYC shutdown



Can we please get some help

GOAT city
@Scholar

 

[Payday23]

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

but the vast majority of them are doing what they can to protect their workers and states are pretty much all mandating masks, etc

its still an airborne virus that no one has any control over and no one can prove where they got it. hence your second link

i guess we'll see if the dems cave on it or not im not in congress

national chains, sure. regional businesses and mom and pop's - not really, at least not back last spring/summer. i mean a whole segment of the country is anti mask, i highly doubt those businesses went and got the PPE they should've for employees, especially in spring summer

we're talking about 330 million people not individual cases

the whole US isn’t being threatened economically. This has been an unproportionally lower class issue. Service workers are on the frontlines and need both economic help - those who lost work or had reduced hours, and protections - hazard pay and safety - including holding their employers accountable.

lol @ talking about 330 M people. The whole of the US is not the target of this

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

this is good

No it’s not. How is funding for farmers the same level as funding for food programs? 45B for transport is inclusive of airlines of which we know will get the vast amount of money while being private enterprise, the same airlines that took money and fired people.

 

[Scholar]

GOAT city
@Scholar

This shyt ain't right

I'm tryna be back in the club during the spring and summer

 

[Hood Critic]

but the vast majority of them are doing what they can to protect their workers and states are pretty much all mandating masks, etc

its still an airborne virus that no one has any control over and no one can prove where they got it. hence your second link

i guess we'll see if the dems cave on it or not im not in congress

This is exactly how you know you just be in this thread arguing asinine points just to be doing so, because you'll have pages of arguments that completely contradicts previous pages of your own arguments.

Not long ago you were Mr. Champion for the Essential workers and they need to be compensated. Now all of sudden, its why would liability protection be a sticking point to hold up stimulus talks. That same liability protection would potentially hurt millions of essential and front line workers that were required to work through the entire pandemic with no extra compensation who were put at far greater risk than the average person. Are all of those people going to sue their employers, no but employers do not deserve blanket immunity because of their economic anxiety. As someone has already mentioned, there are plenty of protections for frivolous lawsuits in place in the court system.

Liability protection gives cover to corporations and businesses who tried to push through the pandemic without recognizing safeguards while putting their employees at risk for fears of disrupting their balance sheets. Looking at you Tyson Foods, they were not the only ones.

 

[Serious]

This shyt ain't right

I'm tryna be back in the club during the spring and summer

Stings even more, because I got all this money to blow:

 

[the cac mamba]

national chains, sure. regional businesses and mom and pop's - not really, at least not back last spring/summer. i mean a whole segment of the country is anti mask, i highly doubt those businesses went and got the PPE they should've for employees, especially in spring summer



the whole US isn’t being threatened economically. This has been an unproportionally lower class issue. Service workers are on the frontlines and need both economic help - those who lost work or had reduced hours, and protections - hazard pay and safety - including holding their employers accountable.

lol @ talking about 330 M people. The whole of the US is not the target of this

so stop juelzing and just say it. you want stimulus to be held up if it comes with liability protection

 

[the cac mamba]

This is exactly how you know you just be in this thread arguing asinine points just to be doing so, because you'll have pages of arguments that completely contradicts previous pages of your own arguments.

Not long ago you were Mr. Champion for the Essential workers and they need to be compensated. Now all of sudden, its why would liability protection be a sticking point to hold up stimulus talks. That same liability protection would potentially hurt millions of essential and front line workers that were required to work through the entire pandemic with no extra compensation who were put at far greater risk than the average person. Are all of those people going to sue their employers, no but employers do not deserve blanket immunity because of their economic anxiety. As someone has already mentioned, there are plenty of protections for frivolous lawsuits in place in the court system.

Liability protection gives cover to corporations and businesses who tried to push through the pandemic without recognizing safeguards while putting their employees at risk for fears of disrupting their balance sheets. Looking at you Tyson Foods, they were not the only ones.

liability protection could hurt millions of workers? millions of workers are not suing their jobs

that was LITERALLY my entire point if they WERE i would say yeah, i get the need for it. but they ARENT

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

so stop juelzing and just say it. you want stimulus to be held up if it comes with liability protection

stop juelzing and just say it, you want the republican stimulus. you're a debt hawk

 

[the cac mamba]

stop juelzing and just say it, you want the republican stimulus. you're a debt hawk

no, i wanted the mnuchin deal, which was twice as much as this one. but you greedy, delusional shytheads said it wasnt enough and nancy would get more somehow, and all of you were dead wrong

theres pages and pages of you guys shytting on me for saying she should have taken a deal thats literally twice what shes taking now i even got banned from the thread twice for it

the mnuchin bill had 250 billion for state and local. whatd you say? "isnt enough". now the dems are fighting for 160

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

no, i wanted the mnuchin deal, which was twice as much as this one. but you greedy, delusional shytheads said it wasnt enough and nancy would get more somehow, and all of you were dead wrong

theres pages and pages of you guys shytting on me for saying she should have taken a deal thats literally twice what shes taking now i even got banned from the thread twice for it

the mnuchin bill had 250 billion for state and local. whatd you say? "isnt enough". now the dems are fighting for 160

i actually didn't comment on that bill....so please keep the "you's" to whom they apply

what YOU have done is consistently tell the dems to take whatever the republicans are dealing...

 

[the cac mamba]

i actually didn't comment on that bill....so please keep the "you's" to whom they apply

what YOU have done is consistently tell the dems to take whatever the republicans are dealing...

i told nancy to take what the treasury secretary and white house were offering, with trump poised to force the republicans to sign off on it. openly saying he would make them sign it

lo and behold i was right shes not getting anything close to that bill. dudes said 250 billion wasnt enough for cities and states, now they might literally get 0

and yeah i know you werent the one reporting my posts, but as long as whoever did is reading this

of all the bad faith argumemts ive made on here, that might have been the best-faith argument

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

i told nancy to take what the treasury secretary and white house were offering, with trump poised to force the republicans to sign off on it. openly saying he would make them sign it

lo and behold i was right shes not getting anything close to that bill. dudes said 250 billion wasnt enough for cities and states, now they might literally get 0

and yeah i know you werent the one reporting my posts, but as long as whoever did is reading this

of all the bad faith argumemts ive made on here, that might have been the best-faith argument

all people can do is argue these bills from their purview as it's clear Nancy has been playing politics with these negotiations as well. framing everything and everyone's comments in the context of what she's doing dismisses the real asks of people as opposed to the bullshyt circus in congress.

 

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