Stop Bernie-Splaining to Black Voters

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You guys do realize we have to bernie-splain because you guys can't even be honest about Hillary's or Bill's political history?

You dont have to do anything, if Bernie himself cant convey that message then he doesnt deserve to win. All your 'splaining does is piss people off and have them vote against you out of spite. Its one thing to just lay out why you voting for the man but Bernie supporters are like Jehova's Witnesses who just wont leave you alone.
 

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Don't blame my reading comprehension for your omission. You didn't say shyt about "his actual words on your statement." You just gave your statement, gave a description of what Coates did, and posted a video. :camby:

Frankly, I'm not even that eager to "defend" Bernie seeing as how I'm a center-right voter. But even the premise of the OP is kind of dumb. From my experience, using terms like "mansplaining" or "Berniesplaining" is a convenient way of avoiding points brought up by the other side. You should disagree with arguments because you think they're wrong, not because you have an inherent bias toward the subject matter being addressed. The fact that black people are justifiably cynical about politicians doesn't really address the merits of voting for Clinton versus Sanders, or the Democratic nominee versus the Republican nominee.
Lol sure thing breh

Edit: so I gave a statement, gave a description of what Coates said, and then provided an actual link of him saying it and that's a problem? I made a specific point followed with a paraphrase of what he said and the actual video of him saying it in case people wanted to hear it themselves. You sound dumb as fukk, you were just mad and went into attack mode without even watching the video, fukk out of here
 
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I agree to a certain degree but most black folks are not educated on the issues
The reality is that a great many black folks are low information voters who depend on the words of pastors (con men) who tell them who to vote for (in the name of Jesus of course) :francis:

This can be said about most Americans people. Blow's point is right. They acting like we worse and we not. Bernie simply said "(Blacks) don't know me yet." And his supporters (and some of his detractors) ran with it as Blacks are ignorant of politics.
 

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You dont have to do anything, if Bernie himself cant convey that message then he doesnt deserve to win. All your 'splaining does is piss people off and have them vote against you out of spite. Its one thing to just lay out why you voting for the man but Bernie supporters are like Jehova's Witnesses who just wont leave you alone.
The person who created "Bernie Bros" was lying. Clinton has 1000s of people on Twitter with followers that do nothing, but promote her 24/7. They are MUCH WORSE and disrespectful. Basically any critique of Obama by Sanders is racist and somehow Sanders is the real establishment. It's ridiculous. Sanders just has more youth support so his squad has a larger online presence. That is it. Other than that, it is just a bunch of people like you mad that your vote is being questioned. Think of the body of support the typical Sanders supporter brings to the argument and the typical Hillary backer goes "proven leadership" "track record" "good relationship" "experience." Never do any of you stop to sit there and explain how she will change everything. You've got the same people who complained that Obama didn't do shyt going hard for a woman claiming that she will continue his policies plus be more of a warhawk, and you don't think people are about to look at black Clinton supporters funny? :what:

You're basically saying that Sanders supporters are trying to hard to win over your vote. Since when has that ever been a problem in politics? :deadrose:
 

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You dont have to do anything, if Bernie himself cant convey that message then he doesnt deserve to win. All your 'splaining does is piss people off and have them vote against you out of spite. Its one thing to just lay out why you voting for the man but Bernie supporters are like Jehova's Witnesses who just wont leave you alone.
Basically. But when you are so high up on your horse it's difficult to look at the mirror on the ground.
 

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I kinda like bernie but his policies just dont seem even remotely realistic to me :yeshrug:not in America at least.

I think what Obama started and what Bernie is running with is "realistic" no longer applies. We have a chance to redefine what politics in this country can be. The train is moving this way whether we like it or not.
 

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You dont have to do anything, if Bernie himself cant convey that message then he doesnt deserve to win. All your 'splaining does is piss people off and have them vote against you out of spite. Its one thing to just lay out why you voting for the man but Bernie supporters are like Jehova's Witnesses who just wont leave you alone.

Agree 1000%. There's never been an argument won over the Internet. The Coli is full of examples of this. People just cement themselves into their stances more and more with each post or tweet.
 

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The person who created "Bernie Bros" was lying.

Actually, I think Bernie Bros are real. But you know them by another name: Libertarians. Bernie has caused a legitimate schism in the Libertarian camp on whether they should support his bid or not.

I agree with the rest of your post though.
 

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The person who created "Bernie Bros" was lying. Clinton has 1000s of people on Twitter with followers that do nothing, but promote her 24/7. They are MUCH WORSE and disrespectful. Basically any critique of Obama by Sanders is racist and somehow Sanders is the real establishment. It's ridiculous. Sanders just has more youth support so his squad has a larger online presence. That is it. Other than that, it is just a bunch of people like you mad that your vote is being questioned. Think of the body of support the typical Sanders supporter brings to the argument and the typical Hillary backer goes "proven leadership" "track record" "good relationship" "experience." Never do any of you stop to sit there and explain how she will change everything. You've got the same people who complained that Obama didn't do shyt going hard for a woman claiming that she will continue his policies plus be more of a warhawk, and you don't think people are about to look at black Clinton supporters funny? :what:

You're basically saying that Sanders supporters are trying to hard to win over your vote. Since when has that ever been a problem in politics? :deadrose:

Its Bernie and his supporters saying he will change everything even when there are mountains of evidence that his plans not only wont pass but the math for funding his agenda doesnt work out at all.

But thats beside the point. Its like this, if you come knocking on my door trying to sell me something, you lay out your plan, I tell you im not interested in your product, you give me some info on your shyt then you leave, guess what i wont have any hostility toward you. Im not gonna try to avoid you if i see you out in public, im not gonna get angry whenever i see your product and im not going to badmouth you. I may even decide to cop your product after i do more research on my own. But if you come knocking on my door every day giving me the same spiel after ive told you im not interested right now, next in addition to your regular pitch you start saying the only reason i wont buy from you is because im ignorant, then when i question you on your product you have no credible details, you damn right im going to become hostile. Your actions have turned someone who was indifferent towards your product initially to someone who is now antagonistic towards you.

Its a problem now because before social media really took off you could really only advertise to me on tv or leave some shyt in my mailbox. I could avoid you if need be. Bernie supporters are carpet bombing the internet and every social media channel. Every forum left of st0rmfr0nt is nothing but Bernie supporters desperately trying to sell him. Redditt is basically Bernie HQ now, nothing gets to the front page of politics that isnt pro Bernie or anti-Hillary. Facebook and Twitter, same shyt, Bernie posts and memes. Its Bernie overload. Thank god Trump's antics are so outlandish they can break through that shyt and give me a break from Bernie love. Sooner or later Bernie supporters will realize they are the problem, not Bernie.
 

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You dont have to do anything, if Bernie himself cant convey that message then he doesnt deserve to win. All your 'splaining does is piss people off and have them vote against you out of spite. Its one thing to just lay out why you voting for the man but Bernie supporters are like Jehova's Witnesses who just wont leave you alone.
Thing is, I'm probably a bigger Bernie fan than some of these Bernie fans on here...but I love him enough to know that he can't be president.
 

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The person who created "Bernie Bros" was lying. Clinton has 1000s of people on Twitter with followers that do nothing, but promote her 24/7. They are MUCH WORSE and disrespectful. Basically any critique of Obama by Sanders is racist and somehow Sanders is the real establishment. It's ridiculous. Sanders just has more youth support so his squad has a larger online presence. That is it. Other than that, it is just a bunch of people like you mad that your vote is being questioned. Think of the body of support the typical Sanders supporter brings to the argument and the typical Hillary backer goes "proven leadership" "track record" "good relationship" "experience." Never do any of you stop to sit there and explain how she will change everything. You've got the same people who complained that Obama didn't do shyt going hard for a woman claiming that she will continue his policies plus be more of a warhawk, and you don't think people are about to look at black Clinton supporters funny? :what:

You're basically saying that Sanders supporters are trying to hard to win over your vote. Since when has that ever been a problem in politics? :deadrose:

If we had in this country both a Prime Minister (Executive) and a President (ceremonial domestic), i'd vote Bernie for President.
 
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