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Yes, if he stays healthy
Strictly player wise can prime AD reach Duncan/KG/Dirk/Malone level?
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AD is up there with them, I think he would still get buckets in the 90's but his competition at the 4 and 5 right now are mostly trash, let's be real. He wouldn't be such a mismatch against Prime KG, Malone, Mutombo, Duncan, Webber, Sheed, etc.
Power forwards today are undersized and 90% of them are not good defenders, specially against post players 6'11 or taller, and most centers are bums.
Power forwards today are undersized and 90% of them are not good defenders, specially against post players 6'11 or taller, and most centers are bums.
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How many more he got to go to be on the level of those those guys?
you think he got a dozen healthy seasons in him?
malbaker86
Gators
Before Pop was Pop, Duncan was out the gate an All Star, 1st team All NBA, All NBA defense, and got jobbed out of the MVP in his second year by Malone.
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A winning culture isn't just about winning titles. Yeah, Memphis did create a winning culture before this tank year, they had a reputation, an identity of a tough team that would grind and most would say won above their talent level. The Spurs with D-Rob were a perennial playoff team and contenders winning 55+ games every year. Tim Duncan was drafted onto a team with D-Rob on it. KG was drafted out of high school onto an expansion team that he carried for over a decade.
It's funny how y'all like to act like Duncan's supporting cast and coaching isn't a huge factor in him having won titles. In two of his titles he wasn't even Finals MVP. Throughout his career we could see Duncan out for "rest" and the Spurs would still win games because they had a winning culture and a strong system where you can plug and play and still have success. I really doubt KG doesn't win rings as a life-long Spur.
I have KG above Duncan because he is a more skilled basketball player and a better athlete in my opinion.
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Bullshyt.
He’s more skills than all of them but I don’t know if he has the intangibles of a Malone or Duncan
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Yes, a winning culture. They were a perennial 55 win team with one of the best players in basketball on it, D-Rob got injured, they tanked and lucked out drafting Duncan putting a legitimate elite player next to D-Rob forming the best frontcourt in the league.I’m not even getting into the rings debate because I think that’s a bit out of 1 player’s control.
But Timmy came into a winning culture?
Timmy got to the Spurs because they sucked (with D-Rob being hurt)
The Spurs winning culture at the time consisted of getting embarrassed by the Rockets for years.
I don’t even wanna think about that 95 playoffs with Dream going for fukkin 40 pts and shyt.
Timmy was the one who helped to change all that.
And Pop was in his first full season in Timmy’s rookie year. (He went 17-47 the prior year)
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
No doubt he has the potential.I think he needs to add more "back to the basket" moves to his game.
At that point, he'll have all the Infinity Stones on the Gauntlet.....He's still a HOF level talent without it,
but if he really wanted to devastate, get that post game polished up.He add that, it's @Big Boss
At that point, he'll have all the Infinity Stones on the Gauntlet.....He's still a HOF level talent without it,
but if he really wanted to devastate, get that post game polished up.He add that, it's @Big Boss
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Duncan faced fukking bum ass teams in the Finals 
'07 Cavaliers, probably the worst team to make an NBA Finals
'99 Knicks, the first 8th seed to make an NBA Finals in a lockout year
'14 Heat, the
version of the Heatles
'03 Nets, a fukking 49 win team in the NBA Finals
'07 Cavaliers, probably the worst team to make an NBA Finals
'99 Knicks, the first 8th seed to make an NBA Finals in a lockout year
'14 Heat, the
version of the Heatles'03 Nets, a fukking 49 win team in the NBA Finals
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
People just love to spew out dumb ass shyt when it comes to Timmy huh
Yeah let's just ignore him going thru a stacked Western Conference each of those yearsDuncan faced fukking bum ass teams in the Finals
'07 Cavaliers, probably the worst team to make an NBA Finals
'99 Knicks, the first 8th seed to make an NBA Finals in a lockout year
'14 Heat, the
'03 Nets, a fukking 49 win team in the NBA Finals
Scott Larock
Its hard leaving thecoli but I gotta find a way...
duncan imo was better at spacing, stronger down low, better post up and more feared just by being so fundamentaly sound so no, I don't think AD is duncan. AD is more of a hybrid player but it's hard to compare this generation to Duncan which was more post up, more physical and less spacing back in the day.
AD benefits greatly from small ball most teams player and the fact that alot of big men aren't great rebounders in todays game.
Duncan in his prime would be scary today.
AD is definitely up there with Malone who was a physical beast and great pick and roll player.
It's hard to judge AD since NO doesn't have no where near the system the spurs or jazz had in the past.
AD is great but how many big men back in the 90s where knocking down 18 footers on the regular, P Ewing pretty much has a long career due to being a good 14-16 shooter. AD would probably miss 60 games a year if he played in the 90s too physical for him probably. He benefits from this small ball style greatly especially at his height.
AD benefits greatly from small ball most teams player and the fact that alot of big men aren't great rebounders in todays game.
Duncan in his prime would be scary today.
AD is definitely up there with Malone who was a physical beast and great pick and roll player.
It's hard to judge AD since NO doesn't have no where near the system the spurs or jazz had in the past.
AD is great but how many big men back in the 90s where knocking down 18 footers on the regular, P Ewing pretty much has a long career due to being a good 14-16 shooter. AD would probably miss 60 games a year if he played in the 90s too physical for him probably. He benefits from this small ball style greatly especially at his height.
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The West was trash in '99, Spurs were far and away the best team. Who knows how that Spurs/Suns series turns out in '07 without the Diaw and Stoudemire suspensions in the middle of the series, Duncan could not guard Stoudemire. The Spurs were far and away the best team in the West in '14 too.People just love to spew out dumb ass shyt when it comes to Timmy huh
Yeah let's just ignore him going thru a stacked Western Conference each of those years
KG was an underdog and played with trash most of his Minnesota tenure. Much harder to make it through a "stacked Western Conference" in that scenario. fukking argument holds no water, TD was on the best teams he should have been coming out the West.
Nikkas have the same talking points bu bu stacked conference
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