STRUGGLING: montell jordan/Vic Mensa selling features for $50

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This is a misleading thread, but I do wonder sometimes how much guys like Vic Mensa make per year. I’m speculating but is it any more than £75k a year?
 

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This is a misleading thread, but I do wonder sometimes how much guys like Vic Mensa make per year. I’m speculating but is it any more than £75k a year?
Don't like Vic Mensa, but people really underestimate how much a somewhat relevant rapper makes.

Vic Mensa couldn't be making less than 250k a year just off music and even that is a significant lowball.

Rappers make money, problem usually is they spend too much and are financially illiterate. Don't think Vic is one of those people though.
 

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Don't like Vic Mensa, but people really underestimate how much a somewhat relevant rapper makes.

Vic Mensa couldn't be making less than 250k a year just off music and even that is a significant lowball.

Rappers make money, problem usually is they spend too much and are financially illiterate. Don't think Vic is one of those people though.
Vic far from relevant my nikka. If he has endorsements/shows that I don’t know about then so be it but 250 bands a year is a stretch
 
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Let's say these are just for shout outs. Vic Mensa has almost a million Instagram followers. No way he's just charging $50 for shout out. Try $5,000. :francis:
 

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It's not a stretch at all. I'm telling you as somebody that works in the industry.
Sounds far fetched.
How is he going to earn 20K in the month coming up?

No new album out, no songs in current rotation.

How is he going to generate 20 thousand in March 2019?


And I don't even follow current rappers like that...
 

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Don't like Vic Mensa, but people really underestimate how much a somewhat relevant rapper makes.

Vic Mensa couldn't be making less than 250k a year just off music and even that is a significant lowball.

Rappers make money, problem usually is they spend too much and are financially illiterate. Don't think Vic is one of those people though.
:duck:

First figure was accurate. You brehs love ductales. Most relatively known rappers are making 60-70k a year. Most rappers wish they were making 250k
 

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@ignorethis is actually a concert promoter in the business and yet you have idiots telling him he's wrong with 0 information themselves :skip::skip::skip::skip:
That concert promoter was asked what VM would have to do to make 20k in March with no current hit record, and no new project. Concert promoter is still trying to come back with an answer.
Perhaps you can answer the question?
 

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That concert promoter was asked what VM would have to do to make 20k in March with no current hit record, and no new project. Concert promoter is still trying to come back with an answer.
Perhaps you can answer the question?
I've been sleeping and doing other things but I'm here now.

First, Vic Mensa is an artist with 3.3 million monthly listeners on Spotify and multiple 50m stream songs.
I'm not part of his team so I can't see the backend analytics on his Apple Music profile and other streaming services. But going off one of the artist that work with closest having one third of that many monthly listeners and his monthly royalty checks being 15k-20k a month on a 60/40 split with Empire, I can guess Vic Mensa royalties probably generate 40-60k a month on the low end. But then you have to factor in Vic signed to a major not Empire so he probably only getting the standard 17.25% royalty rate. Even then that would put him at 7-10k a month in just mailbox money/residual music income.

That's not even counting publishing where he's getting paid from random uses of his song. 2K used two of his songs in NBA 2K16 so til this day they still have to cut him a check (probably small at this point) based off current sales of 2K16. But then you also have commercials that used his songs before etc etc. All that adds up.

Second, Vic is an extremely corporate friendly artist and even when he's not hot, he's still get booked for corporate opportunities. Another example where I have to go off what my people get paid, but one of my close friends got paid 40k for a small footlocker campaign



So I know for a fact he didn't get less than 40k to do this recent AT&T campaign.



Wolverine didn't give him less than 10-20k to do this recent campaign.

Regular concerts aren't the biggest booking checks for most artist, unless you stuck as a regional chitlin circuit type artist.

Dude signed to one of the biggest booking agencies in entertainment and it seems like he has a good relationship over there. So even when he's not hot, his agency will say okay you guys have to throw us a bone for Vic for us to let you even think about working with 21 Savage/DJ Khaled/etc.

Lastly, just because you're not a fan of his music doesn't mean millions of other people aren't. Vic Mensa has a hardcore fanbase, he's at the point where he really doesn't need a hit because their are enough people that like him and are gonna listen to whatever he drops. Hits are cool, they give you exposure, a short term major income boost, and a permanent but smaller boost to your lifelong royalty checks, but they aren't the end all be all of making money in music.

Dude has 40m streams on Spotify on his most recent project in only a month. That's great for most artist.

Check out @VicMensa’s Tweet:

I'm not even a fan of dude, I damn near hate him but I try not hate people I don't really know like that. I'm just being objective and trying to put y'all on game with how much or how little money artist are really making in the music industry.

I know a lot this isn't even gonna connect with the "bbbbut he signed a 360 deal!" crowd though. In this internet/streaming era, shyt is so transparent you could literally look at his Spotify numbers, how much Spotify pays out is public knowledge so then use that info to estimate how much he makes off just Spotify monthly based off a standard recording contract.
 
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