STRUGGLING: montell jordan/Vic Mensa selling features for $50

[dterpsss]

lol someone got taught a serious lesson, vic is not broke

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

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Nah there's other nfl nba athletes doin that.

It's genkus. $50 for 30 seconds of work.

How popular is that site? You think its possible to "subcontract" the shoutouts?

Like maybe I sell the Vic Mensa shoutout to someone else for $200 and I profit $150

 

[get these nets]

Four shows @ $5k a piece isn’t a high bar to clear, I paid less relevant r&b acts about $10k to perform at my school when I was in college and that was a decade ago. I’m sure Vic who has a good college/20 something following can book shows for that easily.

This may be the 3-5th comment between us....and the 3rd time you've mentioned your school.

It's a running joke with my buddies and I......meet a person from Stanford and within the first 5 minutes they will indirectly bring it up.(for you to figure out)

me" hey, what's up?"

other guy " yeah how are you? pardon my handshake......I hurt my hand clapping so hard, at the big game against Cal"

to fukk with them, we always change the subject immediately and wait for the person to indirectly bring it up again. I did that to you in a Cory Booker thread. hehehehe
if you see this in a comedy sketch in the future, we're the ones who wrote it.
Stanford is notorious for this.

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Jokes aside...I'm familiar with NACA , school "activities" funds ,etc. There are way more acts out now than when either of us was in school.
I'd think that the top 2 tiers of artists would most in demand. Tiers below that would do college shows here or there.
I can't see 19 year olds these days rushing to see a guy who was popping when they were in the 9th grade.

I'm way out of the loop. I'm halfway familiar with modern rappers by seeing their names in headlines and on music charts. Only song of VM's I've heard is one where Chance destroyed him
"avocado guacamole".in fact just realized that I'm confusing Vic Mensa with Mick Jenkins

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

Four shows @ $5k a piece isn’t a high bar to clear, I paid less relevant r&b acts about $10k to perform at my school when I was in college and that was a decade ago. I’m sure Vic who has a good college/20 something following can book shows for that easily.

I believe you...

shyt Berner was asking and getting 10k for appearances and that was in back in 2013 before he got big....

And he still isn't even that mainstream today.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

WTF .. WHY WOULD ANYONE PAY THAT KINDA MONEY FOR A SHOUTOUT. $50 IS EVEN TOO MUCH.

It’s called marketing but you have to decide if you care for that person’s audience.

 

[Sccit]

It’s called marketing but you have to decide if you care for that person’s audience.

BRO I DONT EVEN THINK MICHAEL JACKSON COULD GET 5K FOR A SHOUT OUT IF HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD TO GIVE IT

 

[b_low_brown]

THATS NOT FOR A FEATURE, ITS FOR A SHOUT OUT

Lemme get my plat thread nikka

 

[8WON6]

do they shout people out on their platform? or do you get some ragedy ass happy birthday type of shyt that you post on your own account?

 

[b_low_brown]

I've been sleeping and doing other things but I'm here now.

First, Vic Mensa is an artist with 3.3 million monthly listeners on Spotify and multiple 50m stream songs.
I'm not part of his team so I can't see the backend analytics on his Apple Music profile and other streaming services. But going off one of the artist that work with closest having one third of that many monthly listeners and his monthly royalty checks being 15k-20k a month on a 60/40 split with Empire, I can guess Vic Mensa royalties probably generate 40-60k a month on the low end. But then you have to factor in Vic signed to a major not Empire so he probably only getting the standard 17.25% royalty rate. Even then that would put him at 7-10k a month in just mailbox money/residual music income.

That's not even counting publishing where he's getting paid from random uses of his song. 2K used two of his songs in NBA 2K16 so til this day they still have to cut him a check (probably small at this point) based off current sales of 2K16. But then you also have commercials that used his songs before etc etc. All that adds up.

Second, Vic is an extremely corporate friendly artist and even when he's not hot, he's still get booked for corporate opportunities. Another example where I have to go off what my people get paid, but one of my close friends got paid 40k for a small footlocker campaign



So I know for a fact he didn't get less than 40k to do this recent AT&T campaign.



Wolverine didn't give him less than 10-20k to do this recent campaign.

Regular concerts aren't the biggest booking checks for most artist, unless you stuck as a regional chitlin circuit type artist.

Dude signed to one of the biggest booking agencies in entertainment and it seems like he has a good relationship over there. So even when he's not hot, his agency will say okay you guys have to throw us a bone for Vic for us to let you even think about working with 21 Savage/DJ Khaled/etc.

Lastly, just because you're not a fan of his music doesn't mean millions of other people aren't. Vic Mensa has a hardcore fanbase, he's at the point where he really doesn't need a hit because their are enough people that like him and are gonna listen to whatever he drops. Hits are cool, they give you exposure, a short term major income boost, and a permanent but smaller boost to your lifelong royalty checks, but they aren't the end all be all of making money in music.

Dude has 40m streams on Spotify on his most recent project in only a month. That's great for most artist.

Check out @VicMensa’s Tweet:

I'm not even a fan of dude, I damn near hate him but I try not hate people I don't really know like that. I'm just being objective and trying to put y'all on game with how much or how little money artist are really making in the music industry.

I know a lot this isn't even gonna connect with the "bbbbut he signed a 360 deal!" crowd though. In this internet/streaming era, shyt is so transparent you could literally look at his Spotify numbers, how much Spotify pays out is public knowledge so then use that info to estimate how much he makes off just Spotify monthly based off a standard recording contract.

Terrific breakdown

 

[b_low_brown]

do they shout people out on their platform? or do you get some ragedy ass happy birthday type of shyt that you post on your own account?

I don’t think they post it and the big ass watermark makes it clear u bought the shout out

 

[b_low_brown]

Thread turned into the most eye opening industry related thread on here in months