Studio creating Phantom Dust For Xbox One Shuts Its Doors

[HarlemRiverDrive]

I think Xbox strategy this gen was make Halo, Fable, Gears of war and buy exclusives from third party..seems they don't care about creating new games them self.

what is wrong about that? What's wrong with funding developers to pursue their own IP ideas? It gives 3rd party independents work without risk of losing resources due to self-funding?

Stop painting this like they should follow a specific guidebook of getting new/original games.

 

[CurrencyChase]

what is wrong about that? What's wrong with funding developers to pursue their own IP ideas? It gives 3rd party independents work without risk of losing resources due to self-funding?

Stop painting this like they should follow a specific guidebook of getting new/original games.

i don't have a problem with how they do their busy in that regard. i have a problem with how they buy out games that were multiplat and made them exclusives. i also have a problem with them being all about milking customers instead of bringing new games to the scene.

 

[HarlemRiverDrive]

i don't have a problem with how they do their busy in that regard. i have a problem with how they buy out games that were multiplat and made them exclusives. i also have a problem with them being all about milking customers instead of bringing new games to the scene.

and they've only done that with...one game so far. Other times including Tomb Raider, they're funding the development of. It's not like the other big two aren't guilty of that. Nintendo's doing it with Devil's Third (it was multiplat, Nintendo bought rights and made it exclusive) and Sony has a hell of a lot of timed independent titles.

'milking customers'. Do you have any examples? Yearly/bi-yearly releases is milking customers? They haven't brought new games to the table? Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, Screamride, Scalebound, State of Decay....all new IPs or revived IPs in the last two years funded and published or will be published in the future by MS. Not 'stanning', it is what it is.

I don't understand what you're talking about. I genuinely hope you can add substance to an argument instead of wishywashy, up in the air accusations.

 

[Regular_P]

I think Xbox strategy this gen was make Halo, Fable, Gears of war and buy exclusives from third party..seems they don't care about creating new games them self.

I really believe they have no strategy beyond that. They showed CGI of games that were probably in the very beginning stages of development (at least 2-3 years away) to get WOATs like @MeachTheMonster @PS4 and @The G.O.D II riled up at last year's E3 because they have nothing else in development.

 

[CurrencyChase]

and they've only done that with...one game so far. Other times including Tomb Raider, they're funding the development of. It's not like the other big two aren't guilty of that. Nintendo's doing it with Devil's Third (it was multiplat, Nintendo bought rights and made it exclusive) and Sony has a hell of a lot of timed independent titles.

'milking customers'. Do you have any examples? Yearly/bi-yearly releases is milking customers? They haven't brought new games to the table? Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, Screamride, Scalebound, State of Decay....all new IPs or revived IPs in the last two years funded and published or will be published in the future by MS. Not 'stanning', it is what it is.

I don't understand what you're talking about. I genuinely hope you can add substance to an argument instead of wishywashy, up in the air accusations.

Sunset Overdrive - il give you this but its one new game
Quantum Break - okay 2 new game
Killer Instinct - milking customers
Screamride - wtf is this? This is like an indie.
Scalebound - 3 exclusive but when will this be released again?
State of Decay - This a xbox 360 games with improved graphics

So, basically only 3 new games announced and they busted their load at E3 last year.

 

[CurrencyChase]

I really believe they have no strategy beyond that. They showed CGI of games that were probably in the very beginning stages of development (at least 2-3 years away) to get WOATs like @MeachTheMonster @PS4 and @The G.O.D II riled up at last year's E3 because they have nothing else in development.

yes for example that Phantom Dusk game that they just went and cancelled out the whole studio. That can happen to Scale bound too.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I really believe they have no strategy beyond that. They showed CGI of games that were probably in the very beginning stages of development (at least 2-3 years away) to get WOATs like @MeachTheMonster @PS4 and @The G.O.D II riled up at last year's E3 because they have nothing else in development.

So quantum break, Forza, Ori, Halo 5 = nothing in development.

And a UC4 CGI 2-3 years from release was all good huh?


You Sony Stans and your dumb ass assertions

 

[MeachTheMonster]

i don't have a problem with how they do their busy in that regard. i have a problem with how they buy out games that were multiplat and made them exclusives. i also have a problem with them being all about milking customers instead of bringing new games to the scene.

What games did they to this with?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

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yes for example that Phantom Dusk game that they just went and cancelled out the whole studio. That can happen to Scale bound too.

Scalebound is being made by platinum games.

Dummy

 

[HarlemRiverDrive]

Sunset Overdrive - il give you this but its one new game
Quantum Break - okay 2 new game
Killer Instinct - milking customers
Screamride - wtf is this? This is like an indie.
Scalebound - 3 exclusive but when will this be released again?
State of Decay - This a xbox 360 games with improved graphics

So, basically only 3 new games announced and they busted their load at E3 last year.

How old are you? Screamride's made by Frontier Developments, who made the RollerCoaster Tyc00n series. They've been around since the 90s. Screamride's a retail game (budget, $40) but it's in no way an -'indie'- title, if that apparently devalues the game.

As for Killer Instinct 'milking customers.'
You're going to have to explain to me how Killer Instinct milks it's customers seeing as it's the least offensive fighting game purchase model out there. nikka have you /seen/ what Arc System Works with it's fighting games? They don't even do DLC, they release the same fukking game's balance changes for $60.

Let's look at this logically. Let's compare how Killer Instinct 'milks customers' in comparison to BlazBlue: ChronoPhantasma and how it 'milks customers.' You make the decision and see what's right.

Killer Instinct: Season 1 - All of the characters, all of the basic costume accessories. - $20.
Killer Instinct: S1 Ultra Edition - Everything in the $20 bundle PLUS the retro costumes, additional accessory sets, and Killer Instinct 1 HD - $40

Killer Instinct: Season 2 - All of the S2 characters and basic costume accessories - $20
Killer Instinct S2 Ultra Edition -Everything in the S2 $20 bundle PLUS the S2 retro costumes, sets, KI2 HD.... - $40.

So, you're looking at $80 in total for 17 characters, 68 character acessory sets (4 per each character), 17 retro costumes and their accessory sets, 2 HD remasters for $80.

Milking customers right? Well let's see what BlazBlue do--

ChronoPhantasma - $39.99
Kokonoe DLC - $8
Terumi DLC - $8
Costume packs - $2.50, there are 5 packs, $10
Lobby Avatars - $1, there are 5 packs, $5
Music packs - $4, there are six packs, $24
SYSTEM VOICE - $6, there are /24/ versions, $144
that suuuure is milking a customer, tho

I got all of this information from the PSN store. Check me if I'm wrong. If you're going to talk to me about how a fighting game is milking a customer I want to see your fukking numbers. Don't waste my time.

yes for example that Phantom Dusk game that they just went and cancelled out the whole studio. That can happen to Scale bound too.

 

[Regular_P]

So quantum break, Forza, Ori, Halo 5 = nothing in development.

And a UC4 CGI 2-3 years from release was all good huh?


You Sony Stans and your dumb ass assertions

Forza - Always in development; a yearly title.
Halo 5 - Should be great given 343's track record.
Ori - One indie, compared to many more that will never see XBox owners because of a draconian policy.
Quantum Break - Progress is actually being made on this one. When's it coming out?

We knew UC4 was coming out. Remember the Black Tusk IP? What internal studios are being given the opportunity to develop their own IPs besides Remedy and not rehashes?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Forza - Always in development; a yearly title.
Halo 5 - Should be great given 343's track record.
Ori - One indie, compared to many more that will never see XBox owners because of a draconian policy.
Quantum Break - Progress is actually being made on this one. When's it coming out?

We knew UC4 was coming out. Remember the Black Tusk IP? What internal studios are being given the opportunity to develop their own IPs besides Remedy and not rehashes?

None of what you posted here backs up that dumb ass shyt you said last post.


Phantom dust is in development.

Rare is working on multiple projects including a new IP

Lionhead is working on something other than fable.

And there's plenty of other studios working on unannounced stuff.


Now you tell me which internal Sony studios are being given the opportunity to work in new IP?

 

[Regular_P]

None of what you posted here backs up that dumb ass shyt you said last post.


Phantom dust is in development.

Rare is working on multiple projects including a new IP

Lionhead is working on something other than fable.

And there's plenty of other studios working on unannounced stuff.


Now you tell me which internal Sony studios are being given the opportunity to work in new IP?

Isn't The Order 1886 releasing in two days?

Negged

 

[HarlemRiverDrive]

None of what you posted here backs up that dumb ass shyt you said last post.


Phantom dust is in development.

Rare is working on multiple projects including a new IP

Lionhead is working on something other than fable.

And there's plenty of other studios working on unannounced stuff.


Now you tell me which internal Sony studios are being given the opportunity to work in new IP?

Sony Bend is preparing a new IP. Their Syphon Filter Vita title was canned because no one was interested in it.

Guerilla is working on a new IP.

Media Molecule is working with Morpheus tech, likely for a new IP.

JAPAN Studio stays working on new IPs.

David Jaffe has Drawn to Death.

This is all off the top of my head but saying Sony isn't working on anything new is about as stupid as saying MS isn't working on anything new. It's fukking stupid.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Sony Bend is preparing a new IP. Their Syphon Filter Vita title was canned because no one was interested in it.

Guerilla is working on a new IP.

Media Molecule is working with Morpheus tech, likely for a new IP.

JAPAN Studio stays working on new IPs.

David Jaffe has Drawn to Death.

This is all off the top of my head but saying Sony isn't working on anything new is about as stupid as saying MS isn't working on anything new. It's fukking stupid.

My point is all of those are in the same position as the Microsoft IP's. in early development without much concrete info out yet. According to the guy I was replying to, that means the games don't exist.

Isn't The Order 1886 releasing in two days?

Negged

Ready at dawn is not a Sony studio.
Neg yourself dummy