Subtracting a point per miss to solve NBA three point dilemma

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It would definitely change a game that could use some change. Everyone shooting 3s ain't it. Making positions more important and strategic would be a positive IMO. It'd basically be a new game so I can see how some would be against it tho.
This concept would essentially limit what certain positions are allowed to do. That’s the problem. In a free flowing sport, it’s dumb to try to say certain guys have to play a certain way. It puts an artificial cap on whatever schemes you can cook up to create open shots for any given player on the floor.
 
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Yes, the Tony Allen’s & Lu Dort’s of the world would have significantly more value if forcing a miss takes a point off the scoreboard, they at the point would be directly increasing scoring margins :skip:

Your proposed system requires teams to shoot 67% from 2 and 50% from 3 per 100 shots just to break even. I don’t think you grasp the difficulty of that. If 2000 Shaq & 2016 Steph would be made inefficient players then yes maybe you should consider that it tilts value far too extreme to the defense’s favor
Ah sht so maybe my math ain't mathing :patrice:




But ok, hear me out.... Would basketball games ending in baseball numbers really be that terrible? Obviously old heads will complain because that's an oldhead's reaction to literally any change whatsoever, but....I do NOT see how that's bad for the game. It would actually bring about new records and storylines without actually hurting the game itself. I mean think about it, we really only talking numbers right now, the sht that helps casuals understand whats going on. The actual changes to the game itself still seem rather positive since the inefficiency would be across the board, and artificial at that. It isn't like they're actually making less shots they're just penalized further for it.


As a matter of fact, it would probably make people more efficient if you then look at the numbers 10 years from implementing the rules but filter out the -1 (comparing it to what they would look like before the rule change, if you follow what I'm saying). I'm certain the league average would be much higher than it was before the change. But I admit, you have the best response so far and definitely got me thinking.
 

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This concept would essentially limit what certain positions are allowed to do. That’s the problem. In a free flowing sport, it’s dumb to try to say certain guys have to play a certain way. It puts an artificial cap on whatever schemes you can cook up to create open shots for any given player on the floor.
I say the problem with the NBA is it's too free flowing. There are really no positions and there's very little strategy. Everybody runs the same boring shyt and it really just comes down to "did he make it or miss it from 3". What schemes are there outisde of dribble hand-off and down screens? Ain't no getting away from that without a major switch up.
 

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Ah sht so maybe my math ain't mathing :patrice:




But ok, hear me out.... Would basketball games ending in baseball numbers really be that terrible? Obviously old heads will complain because that's an oldhead's reaction to literally any change whatsoever, but....I do NOT see how that's bad for the game. It would actually bring about new records and storylines without actually hurting the game itself. I mean think about it, we really only talking numbers right now, the sht that helps casuals understand whats going on. The actual changes to the game itself still seem rather positive since the inefficiency would be across the board, and artificial at that. It isn't like they're actually making less shots they're just penalized further for it.


As a matter of fact, it would probably make people more efficient if you then look at the numbers 10 years from implementing the rules but filter out the -1 (comparing it to what they would look like before the rule change, if you follow what I'm saying). I'm certain the league average would be much higher than it was before the change. But I admit, you have the best response so far and definitely got me thinking.

I think getting the game as close to a balance between offense & defense is ideal. When the rules favor one side over the other, especially if it’s significant, it just creates ugly basketball on two different ends of the spectrum.
 

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The real issue is people would stop shooting. If you’re up 15, why risk getting negative points? Might as well just get shot clock violations. Trying to score should never yield a negative point. Scoring in any sport should be the major goal in all scenarios.
 

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The real issue is people would stop shooting. If you’re up 15, why risk getting negative points? Might as well just get shot clock violations. Trying to score should never yield a negative point. Scoring in any sport should be the major goal in all scenarios.
Shot clock violations now count as a miss too, -1 :ufdup:


I think getting the game as close to a balance between offense & defense is ideal. When the rules favor one side over the other, especially if it’s significant, it just creates ugly basketball on two different ends of the spectrum.
Still not seeing how Tony Allen becomes a max player in these conditions. Absolutely defense would be valued more, but in a league where it's pretty trash anyway what's wrong with hitting it wit a lil stimmy in an exchange for less inefficient 3pt attempts? Still seems like a positive to me.
 

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Shot clock violations now count as a miss too, -1 :ufdup:



Still not seeing how Tony Allen becomes a max player in these conditions. Absolutely defense would be valued more, but in a league where it's pretty trash anyway what's wrong with hitting it wit a lil stimmy in an exchange for less inefficient 3pt attempts? Still seems like a positive to me.

I don't know if I would go as far as to say max contract level but would the value of defensive specialists rise significantly with that format? I think absolutely
 

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I don't know if I would go as far as to say max contract level but would the value of defensive specialists rise significantly with that format? I think absolutely
And why would that be a bad thing? Swear I'm suing the NBA if they adopt my idea, the proof is right here in this very thread
 

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Just decrease the rim circumference :yeshrug:

You can't get rid of three, it's dynamism helped popularize the sport. But these 20something year old kids shoot too well in that big ass rim. Make the circle a bit smaller smh. We tired of chucking.

I don't hate this idea.
 

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Eliminate the corner 3. You'll probably get rid of 10 attempts per game

Artificially boost the 3 point percentage. Everybody wins
 
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