Subtracting a point per miss to solve NBA three point dilemma

[nieman]

The most realistic and logistical thing is to eliminate the corner/sideline 3. Basically make it a full arc. Now does it eliminate 2-3 3s per team per game, or does it just shift to where they are taken?

The most feasible solution is for a team that doesn't take a lot of 3s to win multiple chips. Denver won being like halfway in attempts, but then Cs won taking the most. The NBA is the most copycat driven league, so GMs and owners need to see results to shift what their pushing.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

nikka this an ass idea lmao

 

[King Sun]

Maybe not make 3s count until the second half? That way if you're up and start bricking threes it gives the losing team more momentum to make a comeback.

 

[|r|e|a|d|]

At first i was like this not a bad idea, then my high azz got to thinkn how this would look in the real world Bron game 7 in Boston 63-47 Bron w/ 30 ugly game tho

Kobe 81 would still be 75
"94 Knicks Rockets game 7 Starks -27

Hard pass

 

[BBG]

"94 Knicks Rockets game 7 Starks -27

Hard pass

I thought the fukkery alone would get nikkas on board how much differently would we look at A.I.s career if all that chucking was literally shooting them out of games? I'm writing the lesbian commissioner as we speak

 

[DaRock]

Dumb idea...but it would really give a better measure to +/- than it does today

 

[BBG]

Dumb idea...but it would really give a better measure to +/- than it does today

I wish y'all knew how stupid you look when you stroll in here exclaiming how dumb of an idea or is without being able to articulate why.


It'd be one thing if the reason was obvious, but it isn't. It's not as if you're not explaining why it's dumb because you're above that sort of thing. You're not explaining why it's dumb because you can't.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I thought the fukkery alone would get nikkas on board how much differently would we look at A.I.s career if all that chucking was literally shooting them out of games? I'm writing the lesbian commissioner as we speak

He reached the conference finals once and outside of 2001 won 3 total playoff series. His shooting wasn’t doing that much winning anyway

 

[BBG]

He reached the conference finals once and outside of 2001 won 3 total playoff series. His shooting wasn’t doing that much winning anyway

I didn't say a damn thing about winning. People still hold AI in high regard on some mighty mouse sht despite all the losing because of his style, determination, etc. and what I'm saying is all that secondary shyt goes out the window if he never makes it to the finals because he couldn't stop chucking bullshyt up.


We would look at plenty players differently if they made this shyt a rule a long time ago, and it would be for the better. I thought real hoopers value efficiency over volume?? Y'all aren't realizing your innate resistance to change is the only thing stopping you from actually giving this idea a fair thought

 

[mastermind]

Play basketball the Motaw way

 

[Mrhateeverything]

Great idea .it would be a start, that would be just a start with how awful the game is

 

[yseJ]

I wish y'all knew how stupid you look when you stroll in here exclaiming how dumb of an idea or is without being able to articulate why.


It'd be one thing if the reason was obvious, but it isn't. It's not as if you're not explaining why it's dumb because you're above that sort of thing. You're not explaining why it's dumb because you can't.

The reason IS obvious.

Two teams start playing.
One team misses their first five shots and the other their first three shots and commit a turnover.


This isn't even some convoluted edge case this is a regular scenario that happens often.

Whats the score according to your idea?

-5 to - 3?

Do you many sports that count into negative numbers ? Do you know why other sports don't use negative scoring? Unlike positive numbers, it's not intuitive because bigger number in negatives means lower score. Millions of scoreboard don't even have the option of going negative. It's just all kinds of stupid.


Now let's think strategy.

The whole idea of subtracting points on miss means you completely need to re-think strategy. This means you will try to OD on free throws in the clutch. This means that any tough shot will be passed up in a favor of a high % inside the paint shot. This means that there will be constant 24 second violations because no one would want to take any shots that aren't gimmes... and shot volume will fall into the abyss.

 

[yseJ]

The score is 50 50 with five seconds to go. Lakers are trying to win the game.

LeBron James goes for a layup.... and he misses it! Game over, Lakers lose 49 to 50

right?

 

[BBG]

The reason IS obvious.

Two teams start playing.
One team misses their first five shots and the other their first three shots and commit a turnover.


This isn't even some convoluted edge case this is a regular scenario that happens often.

Whats the score according to your idea?

-5 to - 3?

Do you many sports that count into negative numbers ? Do you know why other sports don't use negative scoring? Unlike positive numbers, it's not intuitive because bigger number in negatives means lower score. Millions of scoreboard don't even have the option of going negative. It's just all kinds of stupid.


Now let's think strategy.

The whole idea of subtracting points on miss means you completely need to re-think strategy. This means you will try to OD on free throws in the clutch. This means that any tough shot will be passed up in a favor of a high % inside the paint shot. This means that there will be constant 24 second violations because no one would want to take any shots that aren't gimmes... and shot volume will fall into the abyss.

You bit the cheese

I'll repeat myself since you clearly didn't read through the thread. Both of your points have already been addressed previously. As for negative scoring, you cant go below zero. Miss as much as you like, your sorry ass team still has zero points. Make a three pointer so you now have 3 points but then miss your next four shots? Your team is still at 0. Under no circumstances will a team ever be below 0.

As for your strategy point, that was a good one that another poster mentioned and had me for a second, but then the solution to that is simple as well. Shot clock violations count as -1 too. Not as in whoever is holding the ball last has to get a missed attempt on their stats, but the team as a whole is still deducted a point. Again, this wouldnt matter in the beginning of the game because you can't have less than 0 BUT it completely remedies your late game situation theory. Shot volume surely will fall, but it won't be ridiculous because there would be nothing to incentivize you taking the -1 from the violation as opposed to just taking a decent shot at the end of the clock.

I'm not your typical human/poster, my ideas are never, ever stupid or silly and trust I have plenty of them. I can admit when I'm defeated in battle, but it won't be an easy one. Prove me wrong or hold these Ls

The score is 50 50 with five seconds to go. Lakers are trying to win the game.

LeBron James goes for a layup.... and he misses it! Game over, Lakers lose 49 to 50

right?

see now we talking, yall starting to make it hard on a nikka PAWS


I'll have to ponder a solution to this, cause thats quite obviously some bullshyt lol. Maybe points don't deduct on tie scores?

 

[yseJ]

You bit the cheese

I'll repeat myself since you clearly didn't read through the thread. Both of your points have already been addressed previously. As for negative scoring, you cant go below zero. Miss as much as you like, your sorry ass team still has zero points. Make a three pointer so you now have 3 points but then miss your next four shots? Your team is still at 0. Under no circumstances will a team ever be below 0.

As for your strategy point, that was a good one that another poster mentioned and had me for a second, but then the solution to that is simple as well. Shot clock violations count as -1 too. Not as in whoever is holding the ball last has to get a missed attempt on their stats, but the team as a whole is still deducted a point. Again, this wouldnt matter in the beginning of the game because you can't have less than 0 BUT it completely remedies your late game situation theory. Shot volume surely will fall, but it won't be ridiculous because there would be nothing to incentivize you taking the -1 from the violation as opposed to just taking a decent shot at the end of the clock.

I'm not your typical human/poster, my ideas are never, ever stupid or silly and trust I have plenty of them. I can admit when I'm defeated in battle, but it won't be an easy one. Prove me wrong or hold these Ls


see now we talking, yall starting to make it hard on a nikka PAWS


I'll have to ponder a solution to this, cause thats quite obviously some bullshyt lol. Maybe points don't deduct on tie scores?

you thinking too highly of yourself. you never designed a system in your life and it shows.

ok you subtract a point for a shot clock violation. do you also subtract a point for every turnover ?

a system where there are multiple situations where committing a turnover could be a BETTER outcome than taking a shot is a trash system

if Im up 2 in the end why would I ever try to make a shot instead of dribbling to 3 seconds and then giving the ball to the other team ? and the defending team will not attempt trying to steal the ball because its better for them to have a 24 second violation. it doesnt make any sense.


subtracting points for misses is extremely idiotic and it breaks basic strategy of games. do better.