Suge Knight and Death Row Were Suspected of 15 Murders from 1993-1996
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You say of course he signed 2pac as if he didn't have to be somebody Pac wanted to work for,and as if he didn't have to build up Deathrow to become a place where signing 2pac would even be an option...I aint tryna give SUge all the credit but I have a problem with people giving him none of the credit....and lets not pretend signing people would be easy for Suge after coming home from jail after several years,when the public and the media has all but assumed you killed Pac and Biggie,cant forget Eazy got thrown in later for kicks
...only desperate people would sign to Suge,he might not be Larry Brown but Phil Jackson aint no slouch...and like I said Dre wasn't exactly proven solo talent when Suge made the move to get him from Eazy..
But 2pac didn't want to work for Suge intially. Suge wanted 'Pac to sign to Deathrow around 93/94 but 'Pac declined the offer. Why sign to something that's almost like a subsidiary of Interscope when you're already signed to Interscope? Why have two record labels in your pocket when you currently only have one? He only signed to Deathrow, and agreed to have Deathrow's attorney David Kenner represent him (which was a total conflict of interest) because he was desperate to get out of prison.
I think most rational thinking people don't believe he had 'Pac killed. He was in the same car as 2pac and in the line of fire when 2pac got shot. But even if that is part of the general consensus, that's Suge's own doing. Suge chose to treat his company like the mafia. Getting you're #1 artist involved in a Compton gang war is not a smart business decision. Harassing Hip-Hop's #1 producer for the remainder of your life is not a smart business decision. Flaunting your gang connections and making it well known your involved in crime is not a smart business decision (being connected to gangs in general is not smart).
I do give him credit for the business moves he made that were smart. He hired that dude George Pryce as a promoter, who helped distinguish the image of Deathrow artists from that of common west coast gangsta rappers at the time. He's the one who got the Above the Rim soundtrack together. And much more, but it's just that the stupid shyt he did stands out so much.
Ya'll creative nikkas better get on your jobs and create a Hip-Hop Boardwalk Empire Show. Suge, Diddy, J Prince, Henchman, Haitian Jack, Wolf, etc. And that's before you even get to the artists.
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You gotta give Suge credit for executing the business moves. Dre on his own wouldn't have accomplished what they accomplished together. Dre is a musical genius and knows how to groom talent, but he is not a very astute business man. That's why he has always needed a business partner. Alonzo, Eazy, Suge and now Jimmy.
Alonzo, Eazy and Suge, just got too greedy and didn't take care of the engine behind their companies. Jimmy knew what he had and stayed close to Dre.
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You gotta give Suge credit for executing the business moves. Dre on his own wouldn't have accomplished what they accomplished together. Dre is a musical genius and knows how to groom talent, but he is not a very astute business man. That's why he has always needed a business partner. Alonzo, Eazy, Suge and now Jimmy.
Alonzo, Eazy and Suge, just got too greedy and didn't take care of the engine behind their companies. Jimmy knew what he had and stayed close to Dre.
Good point. I forgot about that. In some ways Dr. Dre is too much of an artist to the point that his own need for perfectionism cripples his ability to meet a deadline or even put anything out.
Well signing a desperate man is a smart business move....And Suge aint the one who allegedly put out a hit on himself and Pac after hearing Hitemup depending on whos evidence you believe
....that was another famous CEO who got Pac involved in a gang war,Puffy Combs...And Suge aint the one who told that #1 artist to rush Orlando in the casino
...Suge being a boss could've easily worked that out behind the scenes,that shyt wouldn't have went down,but Pac was hotheadedIt sounds bad to say it,and he is the goat,but Suges only bad move was signing Pac,but at the same time it was his best move
Pac changed the climate and everything when he came over
...If Suge never signs Pac I predict his label last another 10 years at least,easy...the people he had fun pissing off on the way up just made it impossible for him to rebuild,who gon sign with the man who pissed off the people who became the most powerful men in hiphop after Suge went to jaila lot of our favorite execs made bad decisions that easily could've put they azz in jail and ruined they companys,we could easily be talkin about how dumb Puff,Jay-z,Birdman,Dre,Master P were right now....but they got lucky,and had better PR people than Suge who loved the bad guy image..
Whats the question?Dre was the 4th favorite rapper of most NWA fans,then became Eazy E sidekick.....who was licking they chops to hear a dre solo album before Suge stole him from Eazy
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But Dre was the producer. He was the sound behind multiple classic albums. Anyone in their right mind would have wanted Dre after that run culminating in the second NWA album.Whats the question?Dre was the 4th favorite rapper of most NWA fans,then became Eazy E sidekick.....who was licking they chops to hear a dre solo album before Suge stole him from Eazy
If you're point is that people weren't fiending to hear Dre as a rapper
That's why the Chronic is a compilation basically. But Dre was a sought after commodity post NWA - how could he not be
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Idc how much pull he used to have all I remember him by is
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damn Suge 
you had an incredible run
Your contributions to hip-hop won't be forgotten.
Suge = GOAT non-rapper figure in history of hip-hop
* bums Balifornia Love *
you had an incredible runYour contributions to hip-hop won't be forgotten.
Suge = GOAT non-rapper figure in history of hip-hop
* bums Balifornia Love *
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At his prime he had a whole coast scared. Tupac had free reign to say what he wanted smh lol
nikkas love to hear all them bullshyt raps about catching bodies etc yet shyt on Suge? if you ever been around real grimy street cats you should know what type of dude Suge is, always got be on point around nikkas like him, gotta respect his G though
But Dre was the producer. He was the sound behind multiple classic albums. Anyone in their right mind would have wanted Dre after that run culminating in the second NWA album.
If you're point is that people weren't fiending to hear Dre as a rapper
That's why the Chronic is a compilation basically. But Dre was a sought after commodity post NWA - how could he not be
I don't know what dude is talking about. Dre was the mastermind behind four(Straight outta Compton, N4L, Eazy's first album, DOC) multi platinum albums.
He was the most commercially successful producer at that time. Even though ironically, he didn't need popular singles to sell his music. Dre was probably a bigger free agent than cube was when Cube left NWA. Any exec would have signed Dre off the rip. But only Suge could get the release from ruthless.
ing. i gives a fukk if it really was him or not
But Dre was the producer. He was the sound behind multiple classic albums. Anyone in their right mind would have wanted Dre after that run culminating in the second NWA album.
If you're point is that people weren't fiending to hear Dre as a rapper
That's why the Chronic is a compilation basically. But Dre was a sought after commodity post NWA - how could he not be
Yeah im definitely not saying the man would've been out of work
...comparing him to Pac as a sure thing like some people have though
? superstars like Eazy E and Cube don't come around everyday,and Dre was built like them to be on that level....it turned out he had a eye for talent though,so you either gotta give SUge credit for seeing that,having faith Dre could carry his own as a solo artist,or that he picked up an important piece for his label which was a producer....you don't make that aggressive move they did on Eazy if you don't see Dre as an important piece to the foundation of your labelAnd you mention these multiple classics of Dre,and yes he was the sound on those albums....but lets not forget the genius of Eazy E who was executive producer....Eazy executive produced Eazy Duz It and in case folks wanna give Dre all the credit for that one,without Dre he executive produced Kiss My Black Azz and Creepin On Ah Come Up which are both classics....Eazy is obviously more Puffy than Dre but gotta give credit where its due,he knew how to pick em too
,as well as Cube know how to create em....basically Im just making sure we clear his sound was just one part of those NWA albumsIts important to note because Dre wouldn't have gotten quite the credit Dre gets post The Chronic,for those NWA albums being classic,as in it was Dre and Dre alone...or Dre was the mastermind
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