Suicidal people are so selfish it’s disgusting

[Yinny]

Eh, other than directing people to the hotlines yall shouldn't be trying to do the work of mental health and hospital professionals. not reading the thread but the S and H space are weird.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Fam if you actually read through my comments you’ll find I’m more empathetic than the majority of posters here. I was never suicidal but I know deep depression, the desire to die, and I conquered it. I understand a lot more than you think. Meanwhile, you got people on here that either don’t give a fukk or are depressed/suicidal themselves. Anybody justifying or rationalizing suicide is NOT the person to listen to.

I'm not saying suicide's justified at all - I'm saying attacking people over it is astronomically fukking stupid

Like yeah sure, let's give a depressed, suicidal person one more reason to hate themselves. That'll help them!

 

[ThrobbingHood]

@IncarcerationDay

Do you have this same contempt for poor people who have children?

 

[Whore D'oeuvres]

Ok, OP. Go try your rational "this is selfish" rhetoric on a suicidal person who isn't thinking rationally and let us all know how well it works out for you.

"I know you hate it here and cant find a solution to your mental anguish and emotional turmoil. But imma need you to stay for me because imma be sad if you leave"

Some ol self-righteous shyt

You're trying to make it one way and it's not. This is just your opinion and perspective and you're turning your nose up at others like yours is the only correct one.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

This attitude sadly is why a lot of black children commit suicide ironically

There’s a disturbing lack of empathy when it comes to suicide in the black community. Its no wonder why our rates are rising.

 

[Buddy]

I'm not saying suicide's justified at all - I'm saying attacking people over it is astronomically fukking stupid

Like yeah sure, let's give a depressed, suicidal person one more reason to hate themselves. That'll help them!

Except I’m attacking the act, I meant to say committing suicide in the title.
Anyways, I’m still trying to get a grasp on how my take is worse than all these posts that are willing to just let people end their life. What kinda society or community is okay with that.

@IncarcerationDay

Do you have this same contempt for poor people who have children?

I don’t understand this post.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Y’all got suicidal people on here and talk wreckless to them but if they did something to themselves it’s “Oh well, personal choice as long as you don’t have a wife or kids. We don’t know his pain ”


I say suicide is selfish and brings pain to everyone you know and somehow I’M in the wrong.

What type of shyt are y’all on?

Because you, like most of the people on this thread, act like people who commit suicide are in their right mind. We still got idiots talking about why didn’t they try harder or do everything possible. As if they know what they tried and did. As if you know what’s in their brain. People write letters and explain over and over how they feel nobody gives one fukk about them, nobody helps but saying “go outside, have a drink, you need better friends, cheer up”, and how they think people would be better if they were free from their presence……

And you say, yea that’s selfish cause you not thinking of them. Actually they ARE thinking of them. If they had the capacity to see how much they were loved and would be missed, they wouldn’t be wanting to kill themselves in the first place.

 

[ThrobbingHood]

I don’t understand this post.

I’ll make this concept as basic as possible.

You view people who commit suicide as selfish because of the impact it will have on those around them.

Using that logic, is it not fair to say poor people having children are selfish because they’re bringing their children into a disadvantaged position?

Shouldn’t only well off parents have children so their offspring don’t also bare the burden and hardships that poverty brings?

 

[kt773]

Suicide is not cowardly, it’s bold but not an admirable way. Y’all stop regurgitating corny shyt cacs say.

Acting just like em I’m starting to believe Chicago, we got a cac secret invasion on here,

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Which fake militant brochure did you get this level of thinking from? So I can laugh at it directly

"Pull yourself by the bootstraps" is not an option, it is a PREREQUISITE to being successful in whatever you do

- 400 years since Slavery was started in America
- 500 years since Europeans touched down in Africa to cause havoc
- 700+ years since Arabs touched down in Africa to cause havoc

Who has came to our aid since then? Who? Outside of making us political and economic pawns


Get your daps fake militant. No one is coming to your rescue. Wake up

Again, I ask you:

Do you ever get tired of trying to pretend like you know what you're talking about?

 

[Buddy]

Because you, like most of the people on this thread, act like people who commit suicide are in their right mind. We still got idiots talking about why didn’t they try harder or do everything possible. As if they know what they tried and did. As if you know what’s in their brain. People write letters and explain over and over how they feel nobody gives one fukk about them, nobody helps but saying “go outside, have a drink, you need better friends, cheer up”, and how they think people would be better if they were free from their presence……

And you say, yea that’s selfish cause you not thinking of them. Actually they ARE thinking of them. If they had the capacity to see how much they were loved and would be missed, they wouldn’t be wanting to kill themselves in the first place.

So it’s okay to acknowledge they’re not in their right mind, but it’s not okay to acknowledge that what they’re doing is selfish. Or shortsighted. The thoughtless remarks don’t work by your own admission but a take like this, one that has clearly gotten a rise an defense out of people is wrong? What’s the “right” way to get thru to them then?

I’ll make this concept as basic as possible.

You view people who commit suicide as selfish because of the impact it will have on those around them.

Using that logic, is it not fair to say poor people having children are selfish because they’re bringing their children into a disadvantaged position?

Shouldn’t only well off parents have children so their offspring don’t also bare the burden and hardships that poverty brings?

Once again it’s not just about the people around them. That’s my fault for not fleshing out my thoughts better. In retrospect I probably would’ve added shortsighted or at least replaced with with “selfish”. There’s too much potential that life has to offer. I still don’t quite get the analogy though cause no matter your status, you’re still gonna face hardships. Regina King’s son was born and/or raised into a status of life we only dream of. We’re still here yet he’s gone. Maybe it’s a matter of how we approach and view burden and hardships. I’m a testament of the shift that can occur.

 

[MostReal]

Knowing Hollywood and the gods they worship, Regina's son probably was a sacrifice

Either way it's unfortunate all around

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Not wanting somebody to end their life because of how it affects you is, in itself, selfish. That's why it's so pointless and unproductive to label suicide selfish; it's operating under the assumption that this person is actually thinking rationally. Their entire understanding of shyt is warped by that point

And I resent the idea that because other people have it worse, you should suck it up. All pain is relative and you don't know what will trigger any individual person's mind.

I disagree, cause and effect is real. People that love and care about you didn’t ask to be burdened by such pain. Just like the example I gave, my cousin’s father died because of what my cousin did to himself thinking he did them a favor. My uncle didn’t ask to die. That brought actual troubles to the family instead of relieving the family like he expected. I repeat, my uncle didn’t want to die. He had no wishes of death he was enjoying being a grandfather. But my cousin’s actions killed him. It’s hard for me because I do understand not being in your right mind sometimes, so I see where you’re coming from. I’ve actually been in that place before and it feels fukkin terrible. Pain is indeed relative, but this is why imo reflecting on the pain of others can help properly contextualize your own if you’re in your right mind. But it doesn’t change the fact that others can be adversely affected as a result. I think the real problem is that many people don’t get to learn proper coping mechanisms growing up so that definitely plays a part in this through no fault of their own. I know coping mechanisms helped me through serious depression. Not to say it’s a cure all, but it’s a huge help to many people who might’ve otherwise chosen suicide.

Like I said, if we’re talking about untreated mental trauma or illness and the person doesn’t have adequate resources or support system then I can understand completely and it’s tragic as fukk. But if you have those things, you really should try to find a solution. That’s all I’m saying. If they tried everything and it still didn’t work then I can’t really say shyt. It’s the ones that don’t try at all and throw in the towel that I get down on. Of course, its easy for me to say while not knowing individual situations. And I admit it’s at least somewhat insensitive to say it like this, but it’s almost as insensitive to me to unilaterally decide to end your own life without considering the consequences. It’s sad as fukk either way.

Not gon lie, I feel like an insensitive jerk for saying a lot of this because I’ve been depressed as fukk. I hope I don’t offend anyone that’s also been through this type of struggle themselves or had family members succumb to it. When I was much younger I had a really rough time and saw therapists to prevent the worse from happening. I just implore strength where and if possible. Conflating my own struggles and thinking suicide might be an answer made me feel selfish and as a result I tend to view the act itself as mostly selfish. shyt’s fukked up, I got aunts and uncles and cousins still sad as fukk grieving over this type of shyt. Smfh.

What should really be on trial is America’s abject failure in addressing things like this and their root causes. In some cases, those root causes are very much solvable should they be addressed sooner. I kept bringing up lack of resources/support system as a legit reason for why people might commit suicide. Circumstances like that shouldn’t exist at all in this society. When a family is overwhelmed, the community should be able to step in to help.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I disagree, cause and effect is real. People that love and care about you didn’t ask to be burdened by such pain. Just like the example I gave, my cousin’s father died because of what my cousin did to himself thinking he did them a favor. My uncle didn’t ask to die. That brought actual troubles to the family instead of relieving the family like he expected. I repeat, my uncle didn’t want to die. He had no wishes of death he was enjoying being a grandfather. But my cousin’s actions killed him. It’s hard for me because I do understand not being in your right mind sometimes, so I see where you’re coming from. I’ve actually been in that place before and it feels fukkin terrible. Pain is indeed relative, but this is why imo reflecting on the pain of others can help properly contextualize your own if you’re in your right mind. But it doesn’t change the fact that others can be adversely affected as a result. I think the real problem is that many people don’t get to learn proper coping mechanisms growing up so that definitely plays a part in this through no fault of their own. I know coping mechanisms helped me through serious depression. Not to say it’s a cure all, but it’s a huge help to many people who might’ve otherwise chosen suicide.

Like I said, if we’re talking about untreated mental trauma or illness and the person doesn’t have adequate resources or support system then I can understand completely and it’s tragic as fukk. But if you have those things, you really should try to find a solution. That’s all I’m saying. If they tried everything and it still didn’t work then I can’t really say shyt. It’s the ones that don’t try at all and throw in the towel that I get down on. Of course, its easy for me to say while not knowing individual situations. And I admit it’s at least somewhat insensitive to say it like this, but it’s almost as insensitive to me to unilaterally decide to end your own life without considering the consequences. It’s sad as fukk either way.

Not gon lie, I feel like an insensitive jerk for saying a lot of this because I’ve been depressed as fukk. I hope I don’t offend anyone that’s also been through this type of struggle themselves or had family members succumb to it. When I was much younger I had a really rough time and saw therapists to prevent the worse from happening. I just implore strength where and if possible. Conflating my own struggles and thinking suicide might be an answer made me feel selfish and as a result I tend to view the act itself as mostly selfish. shyt’s fukked up, I got aunts and uncles and cousins still sad as fukk grieving over this type of shyt. Smfh.

What should really be on trial is America’s abject failure in addressing things like this and their root causes. In some cases, those root causes are very much solvable should they be addressed sooner. I kept bringing up lack of resources/support system as a legit reason for why people might commit suicide. Circumstances like that shouldn’t exist at all in this society. When a family is overwhelmed, the community should be able to step in to help.

I see where you're coming from

 

[Smokin Rider]

People who commit suicides because they’re dealing with depression are not cowards

Not only that but committing to killing yourself and going through with hit gotta be hard af if we bein honest.