Suns center Deandre Ayton has been ruled out of Game 6 tonight vs. Nuggets due to his rib contusion, sources tell @TheAthletic *AKA BROKEN HEART šŸ’” *

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I disagree, I think he needs to simplify his game to be more effective. Be like how deandre jordan was, or how mitchell robinson is now. Run, dunk, block shots.

If he simplified it to that he wouldn't be so frustrated about not getting post touches and locked in on getting offensive boards
He doesn’t have that motor and like it was mentioned he will only do those things if you get him shots. The best way for him to get more shots would be through that. I don’t see any team posting him up enough, that’s just not todays game. He has a decent middy so he has something to work with and can improve it to a 3 point line. In an ideal world, your style is what he needs but he’s not shown he’s willing to be that type of guy.
 

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Well it works both ways, it also means a potential team would have to give less assets.

1- Not every team cares about money, bc they have no talent/are young and aren’t paying anybody (Magic, Hornets, Spurs, blazers if they trade Dame)

2- there’s quite a few teams with equally bad fits, just not as toxic (cough Boston and marcus smart)

Perfect example of ā€˜1 mans trash…’. I think the following teams would inquire if not pounce

Hawks- Ayton > Capela.

Celtics- they’re too perimeter based. Surround ayton with 4 shooters and some scrappy guys and see how he looks

Cavs- Ayton for Allen swap

Toronto-replace Poetl with Ayton

Like what we talkin bout Ayton will have suitors lol

And then the funny part is okay if he’s such trash gon head trade him to another team out west with some talent then. Let Memphis put Ayton next to JJJ…trade Ayton for Gobert since y’all want dirty work so bad. Reminds me of D Lo. Players get ridiculed but go elsewhere and thrive.

As you're seeing (fresh off the Boston extension talks), fitting in a team under the tax and the 2nd apron and all that will factor in heavy into what teams will do.

Hawks won't do that because they're busy tryna dump Collins first and re-up Murray. That team is really expensive for where they are as a squad.

Cavs won't do that because Allen is cheaper and they gotta make sure they pay Mitchell and Mobley.

Toronto won't do that because if they blow it up, why do that around Ayton? If they wanna compete, where's the guard play?

On the flip side, if Wemby goes to Detroit, now Duren and Wiseman are expendable. If he goes to Houston, Sengun becomes expendable. Charlotte? Mark Williams becomes available. Vucci Mane a free agent. Myles Turner is never off the trade block. Brook Lopez can opt out I think. the other French dude out there. Nurkic is inevitably in any swap for another big. If Utah gets Wemby, what becomes of Kessler? The C market (not even including the PF's who pretend they're centers) is very much available, way more than even the PG market.

And Ayton kinda told y'all what he was about before he entered the league. His entire mission was to get to the 2nd contract. Now that he has it, fukk does winning mean to him?
 

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He'd be destroyed by prime Shaq, Robinson, Hakeem, etc.

And yes I get it dude has talent and Monty sucks at coaching, but he's clearly not interested in any of the Phoenix success at all.

Because of their dumbass new team owner trading entire future for KD, they have a serious issue now. They're not getting a nice trade package from Ayton, obviously Chris is washed and not available for decisive playoff games.

So basically no picks for a while and no one to build around Book and KD, unless some dumb team gives away quality starters for Ayton. Which I doubt since now his trade value is lowest its ever been.
Meh. Guys you gotta relax lol Bc the flip side of having Booker and KD is the quality of role players needed is much lower. ā€˜Others’ are easy to find. They just can’t get those guys midseason.

Well, that as when you had Ayton :skip:

If you lose him THEN you’re fukked bc what you can’t find easily is a 3rd scorer.

But with Ayton all you needed to do this off-season was add some grit and vets off the bench. Find some gems. Bron did it and won a chip with rondo, Caruso, KCP:skip: Might do it again this year :skip:

Nuggets are thriving with Bruce brown, rookie Braun, Sixers with PJ and Paul Reed, Celtics with Spencer Houser

So Ayton is being scapegoated we all love Monty but he better fix that. They need him as the 3rd scorer bc there is no recouping that value. Gon head try to trade ayton for a ā€˜defender’ Suns would not have enough offense. Maybe them jump shootin ass nggas need to pass more :skip:
 
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Ayton doesn’t get any touches on this team especially in this series

If heā€˜s on a different team he can be a much better player

He’s not getting any shots with Booker and KD on this team


fukk the scoring dude just doesn’t consistently make those effort plays or have good awareness


Also I’ll never forget during the regular season they played the Knicks with no booker/cp3 and I was thinking ā€œaw shyt, Ayton gonna have to show out in the garden:mjgrin:ā€ and then the Knicks Twitter account posted footage of Ayton throwing up half court granny shots during pregame:snoop:

They lost that game by 20+ :snoop:
 

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Well it works both ways, it also means a potential team would have to give less assets.

1- Not every team cares about money, bc they have no talent/are young and aren’t paying anybody (Magic, Hornets, Spurs, blazers if they trade Dame somewhere )

2- there’s quite a few teams with equally bad fits, just not as toxic (cough Boston and marcus smart)

Perfect example of ā€˜1 mans trash…’. I think the following teams would inquire if not pounce

Hawks- Ayton > Capela.

Cavs- Ayton for Allen swap

Toronto-replace Poetl with Ayton

Like what we talkin bout Ayton will have suitors lol

And then the funny part is okay if he’s such trash gon head trade him to another team out west with some talent or some contenders. Let Memphis put Ayton next to JJJ…trade Ayton for Gobert since y’all want dirty work so bad. Trade him to Boston surrounded by tatum, brown, defenders, and shooters and watch what happen.

Reminds me of D Lo. Players get ridiculed but go elsewhere and thrive.
That cavs scenario :ohhh:. Gives them a young big that can score, in return Suns get a energy guy that can defend without needing shots.

Do it, Gilbert :wow:
 

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As you're seeing (fresh off the Boston extension talks), fitting in a team under the tax and the 2nd apron and all that will factor in heavy into what teams will do.

Hawks won't do that because they're busy tryna dump Collins first and re-up Murray. That team is really expensive for where they are as a squad.

Cavs won't do that because Allen is cheaper and they gotta make sure they pay Mitchell and Mobley.

Toronto won't do that because if they blow it up, why do that around Ayton? If they wanna compete, where's the guard play?

On the flip side, if Wemby goes to Detroit, now Duren and Wiseman are expendable. If he goes to Houston, Sengun becomes expendable. Charlotte? Mark Williams becomes available. Vucci Mane a free agent. Myles Turner is never off the trade block. Brook Lopez can opt out I think. the other French dude out there. Nurkic is inevitably in any swap for another big. If Utah gets Wemby, what becomes of Kessler? The C market (not even including the PF's who pretend they're centers) is very much available, way more than even the PG market.

And Ayton kinda told y'all what he was about before he entered the league. His entire mission was to get to the 2nd contract. Now that he has it, fukk does winning mean to him?
Those are good points but most of them aren’t a ā€˜no’. They’re just considerations.

Also I damn near forgot the pacers are the ones who signed the offer sheet. Nothing’s changed of course they’d grab him

Also a 4 year deal vs now 3 years remaining is a significant difference. Bc in that last year he can always be traded as an expiring. So really you’re only locked in 2 years. It is absolutely worth it for some of these younger teams to take that chance

Sidenote, Wemby is gonna start off at the 4. I think the only scenario where someone becomes expendable is Houston bc they’d have three young bigs
 

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fukk the scoring dude just doesn’t consistently make those effort plays or have good awareness


Also I’ll never forget during the regular season they played the Knicks with no booker/cp3 and I was thinking ā€œaw shyt, Ayton gonna have to show out in the garden:mjgrin:ā€ and then the Knicks Twitter account posted footage of Ayton throwing up half court granny shots during pregame:snoop:

They lost that game by 20+ :snoop:
Thats all true but they should let him touch the ball and run some shyt for him to keep him engaged

They paid him and they have to figure out how to get him to produce:hubie:
 
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