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honestly bro...if someone says anything as ridiculous as Metropolis is Cleveland and references the movie being filmed in Cleveland as evidence...it is so off base i might get 'combative' especially as assumptive as you make it.

Cleveland is cheap asf to film in. That is literally the only reason why it filmed there. Metropolis is not Cleveland regardless if you recognize it. The same way Toronto is used for any metropolitan city in the world.

Cleveland has nothing to do with this movie or superman other than a cheap filming location.
I wasn't talking about the reason for it being filmed there. I'm talking about some people reacting to the movie thinking that the city is NYC when it's clearly not. That's all.

Also, Cleveland wasn't chosen just as a cheap filming location. Superman's creators invented the character in Cleveland. James Gunn chose it for that specific reason.
 

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Historically Gotham has been akin to NYC, Bludhaven has been NJ, and Metropolis has been Chicago.

I've also seen that Metropolis = Manhattan and Gotham = Queens/Brooklyn. DCEU made it seem this way too.

There really is no wrong thing here, its all writer preference...but in no world is Metropolis Cleveland lmao.


I THOUGHT GOTHAM
WAS CHICAGO WITH THE ALLEYS
AND METROPOLIS WAS NYC
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Metropolis, at least initially, was inspired by Toronto and Cleveland.

Superman's creators (Jerry Siegel & Joe Shuster) took inspiration from their personal lives. Siegel was a Cleveland native, and Shuster was originally from Toronto (his family moved to Cleveland when he was 10).

The Daily Planet newspaper was originally called "The Daily Star" in the comics after Toronto's major newspaper, the Toronto Star (formerly the Toronto Daily Star).


These are the words of Superman's creators:

"Actually, the Planet and the architecture of Metropolis were based on Shuster’s childhood memories of the skyline of Toronto, where his family lived until 1924, when he was 10. “Cleveland was not nearly as metropolitan as Toronto was, and it was not as big or as beautiful,” Shuster told The Toronto Star in 1992. “Whatever buildings I saw in Toronto remained in my mind and came out in the form of Metropolis.”

The Cleveland skyscraper that really inspired Siegel and Shuster was the Terminal Tower, 708 feet tall and brand-new in the early 1930s.

“We would walk all the way downtown because we could not afford streetcar fares,” Siegel recalled in a 1988 letter to Mayor George Voinovich. “We looked up at Cleveland’s Terminal Tower and visualized a costumed figure (who had not yet seen print) whizzing through the sky around it and then alighting atop it. On a secret, tremendously important mission, no doubt.”
 

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Historically Gotham has been akin to NYC, Bludhaven has been NJ, and Metropolis has been Chicago.

I've also seen that Metropolis = Manhattan and Gotham = Queens/Brooklyn. DCEU made it seem this way too.

There really is no wrong thing here, its all writer preference...but in no world is Metropolis Cleveland lmao.
Isn't metropolis in delaware

I swear it is
 

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No but Gotham IS in New Jersey
Looks like Metropolis is in Delaware in the DCU and Gotham in NJ as you said

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Dan brought up a good point, if you want to use the inflation argument to say MoS made more, you also have to use the inflation to account for the films budget and marketing increase, which means MoS lost more money than Superman in regards to box office. :ehh:

Dan actually broke that shyt down with math. Anyone who wants to argue which made more should definitely watch it. At the end of the day, box office wise, Superman did better than MoS no matter how you look at it. Overall, both films seem to be profitable when taken into account promo deals and movie rentals/digital purchases.
 

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Dan brought up a good point, if you want to use the inflation argument to say MoS made more, you also have to use the inflation to account for the films budget and marketing increase, which means MoS lost more money than Superman in regards to box office. :ehh:

DID YOU ACTUALLY
LOOK AT THE RESULTS
OR YOUR LYING?

WITH INFLATION
HE SAID MOS WAS -70MS
AND 2025 WAS -77MS

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Dan brought up a good point, if you want to use the inflation argument to say MoS made more, you also have to use the inflation to account for the films budget and marketing increase, which means MoS lost more money than Superman in regards to box office. :ehh:

Dan actually broke that shyt down with math. Anyone who wants to argue which made more should definitely watch it. At the end of the day, box office wise, Superman did better than MoS no matter how you look at it. Overall, both films seem to be profitable when taken into account promo deals and movie rentals/digital purchases.
George Lucas educated me on that in one of the Prequels documentaries. He said that critics loved saying that "counting for inflation" the older movies performed better - but they conveniently left out how much those movies, especially Star Wars and Empire, would've cost if you also inflated those costs.

I think Returns is the only Superman movie that kind of flopped (not counting Justice League).
 

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DID YOU ACTUALLY
LOOK AT THE RESULTS
OR YOUR LYING?

WITH INFLATION
HE SAID MOS WAS -70MS
AND 2025 WAS -77MS

:devil:
:evil:

He very clearly said the -70m vs -77M was BEFORE accounting for inflation.


So it seems like your the one that is lying or didnt look at the results. Did you cut the vid off early when you saw the -70M vs -77M number? Watched it on mute or what?

These are the numbers he did when accounting for inflation, he even made a chart comparing all the numbers for both movies, so idk how you missed this if you actually watched the video.




That "local currency" one is him looking at various individual inflation for countries and calculating it.
That "us dollars" one just takes only the us dollar inflation into account.
 
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