Superstar Push for Gordon Hayward

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Never said he was a turnstile, but he's never demonstrated Jimmy's or George's prowess. They've both been considered 2-way players, while Hayward hasn't and likely never will. That's not a knock, he obviously gives adequate effort.
he can shoot though. Under a coach like brad stevens he will have he will the same or better net impact on a team as jimmy butler
 

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When did Jimmy Butler go toe-to-toe with LeBron in the playoffs? Or George even?

Obviously LeBron got the better of both but Butler in 2015 and George in 2013 (2014 not so much though). What I mean by that is they primarily guarded LeBron and weren't completely embarrassed while still having an impact on the offensive end for their teams









I don't see Hayward being able to do that
 

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The people that think Kyrie will get the credit if Boston makes the Finals got another thing coming.
 

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only person to lock up lebron really is kawhi imo

butler, pg, etc.... kinda pointless to use "but how did x do against an all-time player?" as an argument

i'd happily say that pg was better if he was at all consistent. butler's defense has fallen off hard and he's even gone on record and stated such personally.

most of yal really just need to be honest and admit you don't watch utah games :francis:
 

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Obviously LeBron got the better of both but Butler in 2015 and George in 2013 (2014 not so much though). What I mean by that is they primarily guarded LeBron and weren't completely embarrassed while still having an impact on the offensive end for their teams








I don't see Hayward being able to do that








He can go toe-to-toe against team, he was in the west in a rebuilding team, he just didn't have the opportunity yet.

I think Paul George is better than both on his day but his inconsistency doesn't allow him to be on the same level as Kawhi, KD and other players of that caliber, Jimmy is not on PG's level as far as potential, Bradley and Crowder locked his ass up last year, the team was trash but he couldn't even get his.
 
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only person to lock up lebron really is kawhi imo

butler, pg, etc.... kinda pointless to use "but how did x do against an all-time player?" as an argument

i'd happily say that pg was better if he was at all consistent. butler's defense has fallen off hard and he's even gone on record and stated such personally.

most of yal really just need to be honest and admit you don't watch utah games :francis:
and don't want to even though they're better than a lot of teams the Coli loves
 

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:patrice:Depends on who you're classifying as a SF:

LeBron
Durant
Kawhi
Giannis (could be a PF depending on Parker)
Jimmy (Wiggins is a 2)
George
Hayward

He's definitely right there with Jimmy and George although he's never been at their level defensively (not that it matters, the coli disregards defense). We'll see what Stevens does for his offense.

How is Bron Bron the best SF when KD is the best player in basketball?
 
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