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When I go back and listened to albums like Supreme Clientele, Cuban Linx (just finished listening to this 5 minutes ago), Liquid Swords etc etc I still feel like RZA was too great to fall off. I mean, nobody stays on top forever but I just feel like he gotta have some crumbs of that greatness left in him. Bruh was a genius
 

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Tical 2000 was good but you could tell Def Jam was trying to force Meth to have next. Meth never seemed like he wanted to be the King of NY. Plus the album had way too many skits. I listened to it not too long ago and its a dope album. It just seemed real corny to me when it first dropped


The only thing I remember about Tidal 2000 was Judgement Day which was my shyt. Yeah, they were trying so hard to push Meth to the moon when in reality, dude was eating off of Blackout and Belly. The game was changing at alarming speeds for Meth to fill those shoes along with the Wu to be in the spotlight.
 

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When I go back and listened to albums like Supreme Clientele, Cuban Linx (just finished listening to this 5 minutes ago), Liquid Swords etc etc I still feel like RZA was too great to fall off. I mean, nobody stays on top forever but I just feel like he gotta have some crumbs of that greatness left in him. Bruh was a genius

RZA made me appreciate that lo-fi dusty production that seems popular nowadays on the independent level. The thing with RZA was the fact that even his pop'ish tunes were still grimey as hell. For instance, the single version of "You all I need to get by" was considered commercial when it was released :mindblown:.

Dude freaked the hell out of that EPS 16+

Dude
 

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I run back 100 rounds every so often but i remember trying to listen to it in the gym a few months ago and it was unbearable.

1999-2000 might be the WOAT yr of rap production.

*shudders* no bass line, cliche'd west coast piano keys, obnoxious snares, overdone synths, no melody, weird drum patterns...friggin gross:hhh:

Thank God production peaked during the 2000s after than rough period.
 
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RZA made me appreciate that lo-fi dusty production that seems popular nowadays on the independent level. The thing with RZA was the fact that even his pop'ish tunes were still grimey as hell. For instance, the single version of "You all I need to get by" was considered commercial when it was released :mindblown:.

Dude freaked the hell out of that EPS 16+

Dude

Yeah, he was just too nice with the shyt! :wow:
 

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*shudders* no bass line, cliche'd west coast piano keys, obnoxious snares, overdone synths, no melody, weird drum patterns...friggin gross:hhh:

Thank God production peaked during the 2000s after than rough period.
I know what you mean. The RZA, Dre, and Erick Sermon all switched their styles up. When we got blessed with Alchemist, Kanye, and Just Blaze tho:lawd:
 

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Yeah, there were moments but as a whole, like all across the genre, I just felt like it kinda took a dip after 96'.

I honestly blame Diddy for that shyt. Dude took a simple sample and just made it a parody song which was lazy as hell. Then everybody did the shyt and thus the boring east coast sound was born. During that time, I tapped out completely and moved on to Beat By the Pound type of production. Eventually, things turned around when beat makers actually chop the samples and make their own sound.
 

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*shudders* no bass line, cliche'd west coast piano keys, obnoxious snares, overdone synths, no melody, weird drum patterns...friggin gross:hhh:

Thank God production peaked during the 2000s after than rough period.

Yeah lotta folks going for some kinda "y2k" futuristic sound, terrible samples, and just overall a confused sound.

I think thats why dipset was so impactful because they brought a refreshing sound from a preduction standpoint.
 
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I know what you mean. The RZA, Dre, and Erick Sermon all switched their styles up. When we got blessed with Alchemist, Kanye, and Just Blaze tho:lawd:

Erick Sermon was the king of using the same samples over and over again but finding new ways of flipping them. His beats use to leave me in a trance. The beats were funky and laid back. :wow:

He had some of the best drums!
 
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