David_TheMan
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I"m not specifically saying Bryan only has a chant, I'm talking mainly about the Yes chant in sporting events and such, I think thats more for the chant than recognizing Daniel Bryan or anything.
Surprise no thread on Sting, Mean Gene and Daniel Bryan, making it into the WON Hall of Fame
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I"m not specifically saying Bryan only has a chant, I'm talking mainly about the Yes chant in sporting events and such, I think thats more for the chant than recognizing Daniel Bryan or anything.
Shawn Michaels is not a recognizable name for non-wrestling fans so he doesn't have much crossover fame. Same for Nash.
David_TheMan
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I disagree, Shawn micheals is known by non-wrestlers even my grand mother knows him and she doesn't even watch wrestling like that.
Nash is known for movies by some audiences than he is for wrestling, Money Mike stimulus package.
In another thread, I mentioned the example of an NFL player using Shawn Michaels' flexing pose after making a sack and no one in the booth knew where the pose came from along with other commentators. Am I supposed to believe that your grandmother knows about Shawn Michaels?
He's no household name like Stone Cold, Hogan, Rock, Randy Savage, or even Cena.
David_TheMan
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In another thread, I mentioned the example of an NFL player using Shawn Michaels' flexing pose after making a sack and no one in the booth knew where the pose came from along with other commentators. Am I supposed to believe that your grandmother knows about Shawn Michaels?
She knows who shawn micheals is, you don't have to believe it.
As for the Shawn Micheals flex and people not knowing it, that might be a younger gen thing, they might not know him like that and its likely since if they are younger wrestling hasn't been shyt in their lifetime.
Ryback was over before,he was buried by Punk and Shield.
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Here's the issue when people say Sting didn't draw. WCW's business in the early 90s was all fukked up. Despite that, he was still a household name and he was by far the biggest face in the company during the nWo run. I say this before but if Sting isn't Mr. WCW as the face of the company the stable doesn't work as well because they needed someone like Sting to be lurking in the shadows. That person couldn't have been Luger, Giant, DDP, Scott Steiner, etc.. it HAD to be Sting.
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See I would disagree with this because I think JBL was a great worker for the style of wrestling he did. He was a brawler and in those matches with Cena and Eddie he held up his own. Meltzer can appreciate all styles but his bread and butter is spot monkey shyt..
My issue with that is there is usually very little story, very little impact to the moves, very little psychology. I get very tired of watching people do flips and nothing else.
prophecypro
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That was honestly the most irritating shyt, it would be like arguing some average QB on a mediocre team like Jay Cutler is better than Steve Young because he "owned" a team while Young wasn't better than Montana
And vague bullshyt about how Sting "wasn't a draw" and Meltz had "done the math"... nikka I wouldn't trust your autistic ass to calculate a tip at a restaurant
Seriously, listening to like Greenfield, Pollack and Bauer on the MLW make the case for Edge over Sting irritated the shyt out of me. Especially considering they were wack Ruthless Aggression era writers who wrote all those bullshyt skits that drove people away from Wrestling and are basically trying to award themselves with Edge
Edge don't compare to a Bryan but he's ahead of Sting? Lol!
That's distorting Meltzer's argument nobody said Malenko should have been champ, they said Benoit, Jericho and Guerrero. Jericho and Guerrero were world championship material, they rose to the top in WWE and Dave was vindicated as being correct. Benoit main events did fine in WWE and was hardly out of place. WWF surpassed WCW in the MNW because of new stars, and WCW stars running out of steam. When the NWO ran out of steam, there were the next set of WCW main eventers ready to be elevated, never were, and went to Vince and got that elevation. Which part of that is not fact?
In ring performances are real. Wins and losses arent real. The storylines arent real. Promos are scripted. Bryan's performances in the ring are legitimate though. How could that not be a part of the criteria?
David_TheMan
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Ring performance is only real in that it has to achieve the desired effect of getting people invested, other than that its nothing, just a means to an end.
