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There's some stories to be told & perspective from the North Bronx game the OP wouldn't be able to tell but I ain't mad at the thread.

The game is the game & shouldn't be romanticized. We all left with PTSD from the curb. Its hard to come to grips with the fact that most of the cats you grew up with are legit sociopaths, psychos & schizos. There's really no safe space to vent since you can't exactly share crack tales at the watter cooler in the office & internet weirdos will try to scribble in their notepad so they add your life exp to a wiki/yt channel.

Basically, domesticated version of Vietnam filled with traumatized, burnt put middle aged demons who participated in the 80s/90s Crack era.

We need a Cultural Anthropology book on how black people's values changed with the mentality of the drug game.
 

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Excellent thread on the 90s dope game and E. Harlem and I'm glad you survived it! Way back in the day my fam moved to Conn but still would occasionally drive to the City and shop at La Marqueta on Park Ave when I was a kid. I used to mostly sit in the car and wait.
Years later I knew someone that knew someone in the Martin Luther King Towers but I'll tell the coli about that on another day.😉

Anyway just adding this dope, and I do mean DOPE 1960 film in the thread.
In the flick a White guy is running the dope game in Harlem even before Frank Lucas, Nicky Barnes, Frank Matthews and his connect Rolando Gonzalez Nuñez were rolling. 😅

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A young policeman is on the hunt for a heroin dealer, whose drugs have killed some Puerto Rican teens in El Barrio, but little does the cop know that his snow-white fiancee is also a junkie.


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you can tell by who's jpay is lit and who's isn't. who's getting mail and visitors and who isn't. speaks for itself, no?
Nah that just means there's loved ones who care about them...
@Piri Tomas
Excellent thread on the 90s dope game and E. Harlem and I'm glad you survived it! Way back in the day my fam moved to Conn but still would occasionally drive to the City and shop at La Marqueta on Park Ave when I was a kid. I used to mostly sit in the car and wait.
Years later I knew someone that knew someone in the Martin Luther King Towers but I'll tell the coli about that on another day.😉

Anyway just adding this dope, and I do mean DOPE 1960 film in the thread.
In the flick a White guy is running the dope game in Harlem even before Frank Lucas, Nicky Barnes, Frank Matthews and his connect Rolando Gonzalez Nuñez were rolling. 😅

"The Pusher" Official Movie Trailer​



_______________________________

BRIEF SYNOPSIS​

A young policeman is on the hunt for a heroin dealer, whose drugs have killed some Puerto Rican teens in El Barrio, but little does the cop know that his snow-white fiancee is also a junkie.


____________________________________

The Pusher​


Somebody check on this poster, hevwad fir real like 72 years old or something. Make sure he still alive and well, he ain't been on in 3 months!
 

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Nah that just means there's loved ones who care about them...

Somebody check on this poster, hevwad fir real like 72 years old or something. Make sure he still alive and well, he ain't been on in 3 months!


so that doesn't translate to anything for u?
 

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@Piri Tomas
Excellent thread on the 90s dope game and E. Harlem and I'm glad you survived it! Way back in the day my fam moved to Conn but still would occasionally drive to the City and shop at La Marqueta on Park Ave when I was a kid. I used to mostly sit in the car and wait.
Years later I knew someone that knew someone in the Martin Luther King Towers but I'll tell the coli about that on another day.😉

Anyway just adding this dope, and I do mean DOPE 1960 film in the thread.
In the flick a White guy is running the dope game in Harlem even before Frank Lucas, Nicky Barnes, Frank Matthews and his connect Rolando Gonzalez Nuñez were rolling. 😅

"The Pusher" Official Movie Trailer​



_______________________________

BRIEF SYNOPSIS​

A young policeman is on the hunt for a heroin dealer, whose drugs have killed some Puerto Rican teens in El Barrio, but little does the cop know that his snow-white fiancee is also a junkie.


____________________________________

The Pusher​




anyone know if this is a good film? Any other recommendations in this genre?
 

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so that doesn't translate to anything for u?
Absolutely not, doesn't mean they were if high character or were really like that. Seen plenty of nikkas with terrible values have plenty of outside support while some of the most moral guys ("moral" in the best sense it can mean living that lifestyle) had no one holding them down...
 

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No, I wouldn't do it all again. I never loved being in the game. It's something I fell into as a poor, desperate kid.

All types of shyt. There were a lot of dudes in the streets back then walking around with undiagnosed personality disorders doing shyt just because. I saw dude pull his dikk out and slap a chick in the face with it while her man was sitting right there. Couldn't do anything about it because him and his crew were killers. That was another one of the sick and awful parts of the game.



Been thinking about this thread more since Raising Kanan came out. What eventually happened to dudes like this roaming the streets? Dead or locked up for life?
 

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Been thinking about this thread more since Raising Kanan came out. What eventually happened to dudes like this roaming the streets? Dead or locked up for life?


MAN SPOILER THAT shyt WE'RE ON THE EPISODE WHERE HE JUST CAME HOME :damn:
lowkey i called it tho right away.....wifey is like "how do you keep knowing EVERYTHING that is gonna happen in this show :dahell:"


swear life is just the same act with different characters over and over again
 
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Always wondered how all the drugs got up to BMore/Philly/DC/NYC.

Like Miami, Dallas, Houston and LA are obvious because of their proximity to Mexico and the Caribbean, but it seems like it would be more of a chore to get shyt that far north. I'm sure heroin just got flown in back in the day...so there's that.
 
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Queens was and has always been the most suburban of the boroughs (after Staten Island). It's more quiet, 2 family houses, detached houses, etc. It doesn't look like the classic gritty NYC with tenements, high rise buildings, etc.

It's a major center for immigrants, so every nationality has it's little section/subsection--everything from Colombian to Indian.

The black areas are far removed from the rest of the borough so the greater Jamaica area (i.e. St Albans. Hollis, Springfield Gardens, etc.) is practically Long Island it's so far from the rest of the borough/so close to Nassau County.

Queens had its infamous period during the crack era, but I think it was never as wild/fukked up as really rundown hoods like the South Bronx or the wild sections of Brooklyn. Jamaica still had a lot of solidly middle class black families while the same couldn't be said for the rougher parts of the Bronx/Brooklyn.

Giuliani and Bloomberg helped accelerate the gentrification process in NYC. Catering to minorities was the last of their priorities. It's hard to really tell what Giuliani's legacy is in NYC. Flooding the city with police/zero tolerance tactics definitely helped end the wild out era in NYC, but a lot of structural forces in the city were already leading to a amelioration of the worst days of the crack epidemic. So it's one of those dilemmas in which we can't really tell if policies were at the root of the change or if the politicians just swooped in and took all the credit for things that were already happening.

I always liked Rakim/Big Daddy Kane more than Kool G Rap. Don't get me wrong, G Rap is a top all-time emcee, but I liked the fly shyt over the gutter shyt in the late 80s/early 90s. In terms of the ill boom bap type of shyt, KRS One was my go-to rapper. There was no G Rap album that really impacted me on the level of a Paid in Full or By All Means Necessary.

I remember reading somewhere that crime rates were already coming down when Mayor Dinkins was running things. Giuliani ended up getting the credit because of the measures he took, but the process was already underway even BEFORE he got elected.
 
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