SWITCH: Top 60 Solo Artists In Terms Of Singles

[Wacky D]

This list has no one after 2005 though...

then those artists need to step their game up.

Tell me when to go was a huge record. It was the face of the "hyphy" movement - which for better or worse - was a big story at the time.

that chit was the most embarrassing flop of a "movement" in hip-hop history.

But its been bought to my attention AZ is ranked in the 20's on this list.....Fonzarelli never had a chance,they squashed that bruh its over.

i dont get it.



edit: i didnt know they had a real beef. i knew AZ dissed him in an interview or something. thats it.

Tell Me When To Go
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 35
U.S. Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs 37
U.S. Billboard Hot Rap Tracks 8
U.S. Billboard Pop 100 50

U and Dat

U.S. Billboard Hot 100 13
U.S. Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs 8
U.S. Billboard Hot Rap Tracks 4
U.S. Billboard Pop 100 17

Juelz Santana Whistle Song
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 - 6
U.S. Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs 8
U.S. Billboard Hot Rap Tracks- 3
U.S. Billboard Pop 100- 13

Oh Yes
U.S. Billboard Hot 100- 56
U.S. Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs- 15
U.S. Billboard Hot Rap Tracks-8
U.S. Billboard Pop 100-100



Chart wise they about even,far as pretending the radio just has a love affair with E40 and wanted to push a 40 yr old.....far as there being nobody checkin for his album,he went gold with that album at the time,after about 15 yrs in the game....same color plaque Juelz got...and yes we must bump heads bcuz no matter what proof sum of y'all receive about 40's success,no matter what plaques and numbers y'all see,sum of u like to write it off as a fluke cuz u don't understand how he did it "bu bu but 1 million people in the bay bought it",cuz u don't hear him in YOUR area or on YOUR radios,plenty folks can tell u that damn "santanna" record wuznt as hot in they streets as u claimin,let me be the first to say it....matter of fact If wiki is accurate that hit wuznt even hot enuff to make his album and ain't even a single which disqualifies it....or if we just gon discuss songs that's hot that had videos ill bring plies in here to bury this shyt


But what happened to the relevent in multiple eras shyt you talked about earlier bruh?that don't count for nuthin in 40's case...if those chart positions of 40's 2006 tracks don't mean nuthin I'm sayin juelz wuz never relevant in any era and should be disqualified....my nikka after 15 yrs in the game sold what Ross who had one of the hottest song in the country with "Hustlin" did that yr

homie, i didnt even read that chart chit. all those songs by both artists are hot gahbage except for "oh yes".

the rest of your post is bizarre. i stop arguing with people when they put words in my mouth, especially when theyre saying the exact opposite of what i actually said.

for the last time, i like e-40, and hes actually one of last 5 out that missed the list. thats why i REPEATEDLY asked you to post some singes that i may not remember or may not have heard......and you aint post chit yet. just yappin and arguing with me about chit that i didnt even say.

i never said his career was a fluke. i never said the industry forced him on us. i just said that those singles in '06 had scratch behind them and they tried to push him around that time. and it didnt work. lets be real, the same people that bought that album, were mostly the same people from his niche fanbase that bought all his other chit before that. and when i said that none of his other songs got radio play, i wasnt just speaking for 1 city. i was speaking for every city ive been in. and not getting radio play isnt a big deal anyway. im not even holding that against dude. im just putting some of your bizarre comments in perspective.

lol @ juelz never being relevant. if juelz was never relevant, then e-40 never existed.

 

[Still Benefited]

then those artists need to step their game up.







that chit was the most embarrassing flop of a "movement" in hip-hop history.



i dont get it.



edit: i didnt know they had a real beef. i knew AZ dissed him in an interview or something. thats it.



homie, i didnt even read that chart chit. all those songs by both artists are hot gahbage except for "oh yes".

the rest of your post is bizarre. i stop arguing with people when they put words in my mouth, especially when theyre saying the exact opposite of what i actually said.

for the last time, i like e-40, and hes actually one of last 5 out that missed the list. thats why i REPEATEDLY asked you to post some singes that i may not remember or may not have heard......and you aint post chit yet. just yappin and arguing with me about chit that i didnt even say.

i never said his career was a fluke. i never said the industry forced him on us. i just said that those singles in '06 had scratch behind them and they tried to push him around that time. and it didnt work. lets be real, the same people that bought that album, were mostly the same people from his niche fanbase that bought all his other chit before that. and when i said that none of his other songs got radio play, i wasnt just speaking for 1 city. i was speaking for every city ive been in. and not getting radio play isnt a big deal anyway. im not even holding that against dude. im just putting some of your bizarre comments in perspective.

lol @ juelz never being relevant. if juelz was never relevant, then e-40 never existed.

I posted the singles about 2 pages ago very first post,and really don't see the need to post them again if u right his biggest ones off as a payola scam...but anyway Thingsll Never Change,Sprinkle Me,1 Luv ft Levitti which all charted,Big Ballin Wit My Homies, Hope I Don't Go Back,Players Balls,U and Dat,Tell Me When To Go,Function

Players Ball chart position
US Billboard Hot 100-29
US Hot Dance Singles Sales (Billboard)-26
US R&B/Hip Hop Songs (Billboard)-19
US Rap Songs (Billboard)- 4

Since u believe they just decided to put scratch behind all of a sudden in 2006,here's is chart position 10 yrs prior,not much different....and btw who's puttin scratch behind him now while that Function was all over the radio?he ain't even on a major and sellin about 50K a album now,a hot single is a hot single.

And I stop arguin wit people when no matter what proof I bring to the table they write it off bcuz they friends didn't talk about it or play it or find an excuse as to why the documented proof ain't relevant.....u wuznt livin everywhere in the country just as every E-40 single got released to have a guage on what everybody wuz listening too.....he wuz goin platinum in the 90's,juelz couldn't do it in the 2000's when everybody wuz sellin yet 40 is the one with a "niche fanbase" lol...what the hell that even mean,if u can write a platinum selling artist as having a "niche" fanbase I don't know what to tell you......for a dipset fan to call E-40 niche is just nikkas ain't did shyt since the gimmicks wore off....and how u gon accuse me of puttin words in your mouth then go on to say the exact same shyt I said you were saying?I just said becuz you wouldn't come out and just say it ...u said the label wuz puttin money behind. His singles and that's the reason they got played....sounded like u wuz callin it a fluke to me,if that ain't what u meant than fine.

I show u plaques and bring u numbers to show he did the same numbers and got a gold plaque just like juelz and its "bu bu but he had a niche fanbase" but sumhow Juelz dont....first offf if u a 40 fan u should know the singles,and acknowledge the ones I posted as classic E40.


And btw u need to be clear on what I can even post as far as singles,so far you've posted a song in "santana" that wuznt even on his album and just had a video,and I also see you put "Dipset Anthem" in there too like that ain't a GROUP single and wuznt on a GROUP album,which u told me I couldn't do.....and u keep ignoring me when I ask but the relevance in multiple eras shyt ain't important no more?

But yeah I said I wuz thru "yappin" a couplle pages back,but u keep bringin me back in with shyt that just...but yeah I'm through,if u can't be convinced to make this easy decision with a list of singles that contains AZ and Juelz,no sense in trying to get u to change your stance on anybody else do what u will with the info

 

[Wacky D]

This list has no one after 2005 though...

rick ross is sittin pretty with his titties at #26 .

10 players to watch for:
lil boosie
meek millz
curren$y
a-mafia

plies
alley boy
trouble
joey bad@$$
vado
i may be forgetting somebody but thats 10 post-2005 singles/video makers that have shown potential to possibly crack this list in the future. but they gotta earn that spot b.

altho, i think plies is about done. sorry @StillNotSoft.

1. Tupac Shakur - greatest catalog of singles since The Beatles

the beatles.

besides, LL has pac beat in this category.

Also - Wacky - I went and listened to some more Juvy (Solja Rags) and I got to admit that you were right. He's not trash lyrically. I wouldn't say he's anything special lyrically - but trash is far too harsh. First verse of "Money on the Couch"? That was the verse that did it for me. He's got a song out now with Kidd Kidd where he's got a nice verse too. I was definitely unfairly hating on the guy based on Ha (which I also went back and listened to and is god awful. Horrible flow, horrible lyrics - quite possibly the worst example of rapping on a single).

told you so.

as for "ha", i think you just dont get the gist of the song. its a classic b. i felt like you when i first heard it. most people felt that way initially. but yea, that chit is a classic b.

 

[mobbinfms]

told you so.

as for "ha", i think you just dont get the gist of the song. its a classic b. i felt like you when i first heard it. most people felt that way initially. but yea, that chit is a classic b.

Haha - quit while you're ahead! In terms of rapping, Ha is indefensible. I guess it could be a classic b/c it went hard in the clubs...or it was when Cash Money went nationwide. But to be clear...not b/c of the rhymes.

 

[Wacky D]

I posted the singles about 2 pages ago very first post,and really don't see the need to post them again if u right his biggest ones off as a payola scam...but anyway Thingsll Never Change,Sprinkle Me,1 Luv ft Levitti which all charted,Big Ballin Wit My Homies, Hope I Don't Go Back,Players Balls,U and Dat,Tell Me When To Go,Function

Players Ball chart position
US Billboard Hot 100-29
US Hot Dance Singles Sales (Billboard)-26
US R&B/Hip Hop Songs (Billboard)-19
US Rap Songs (Billboard)- 4

Since u believe they just decided to put scratch behind all of a sudden in 2006,here's is chart position 10 yrs prior,not much different....and btw who's puttin scratch behind him now while that Function was all over the radio?he ain't even on a major and sellin about 50K a album now,a hot single is a hot single.

And I stop arguin wit people when no matter what proof I bring to the table they write it off bcuz they friends didn't talk about it or play it or find an excuse as to why the documented proof ain't relevant.....u wuznt livin everywhere in the country just as every E-40 single got released to have a guage on what everybody wuz listening too.....he wuz goin platinum in the 90's,juelz couldn't do it in the 2000's when everybody wuz sellin yet 40 is the one with a "niche fanbase" lol...what the hell that even mean,if u can write a platinum selling artist as having a "niche" fanbase I don't know what to tell you......for a dipset fan to call E-40 niche is just nikkas ain't did shyt since the gimmicks wore off....and how u gon accuse me of puttin words in your mouth then go on to say the exact same shyt I said you were saying?I just said becuz you wouldn't come out and just say it ...u said the label wuz puttin money behind. His singles and that's the reason they got played....sounded like u wuz callin it a fluke to me,if that ain't what u meant than fine.

I show u plaques and bring u numbers to show he did the same numbers and got a gold plaque just like juelz and its "bu bu but he had a niche fanbase" but sumhow Juelz dont....first offf if u a 40 fan u should know the singles,and acknowledge the ones I posted as classic E40.


And btw u need to be clear on what I can even post as far as singles,so far you've posted a song in "santana" that wuznt even on his album and just had a video,and I also see you put "Dipset Anthem" in there too like that ain't a GROUP single and wuznt on a GROUP album,which u told me I couldn't do.....and u keep ignoring me when I ask but the relevance in multiple eras shyt ain't important no more?

But yeah I said I wuz thru "yappin" a couplle pages back,but u keep bringin me back in with shyt that just...but yeah I'm through,if u can't be convinced to make this easy decision with a list of singles that contains AZ and Juelz,no sense in trying to get u to change your stance on anybody else do what u will with the info

im very familiar with most of the singles you mentioned and very fond of half of them.

i never said i was a fan of e-40. i said I LIKE e-40. BIG DIFFERENCE. thats why i asked you to put me down with some of the more obscure singles that may have been smashes in the bay/kc areas cuz i dont follow dude all like that. and like i said, he almost made the list. you couldve prolly got him on the list.

i never said that those '06 singles were a scam. i just said that they were your typical commercial singles that the label put money behind. the point is, he didnt gain any new fans off of them chits. the same people that bought that album were the same people that bought his other chit. what part of this dont you understand? its not rocket science. i dont know why youre wasting your time posting billboard stats. he was more relelvant before his "big singles".

-lol @ dipset being niche. okay buddy.
-and yes, i counted the "dipset anthem" joint(altho with an asterisk) because it was presented as a juelz single. unless you have the album, you dont know that camron is on the song.
- "s.a.n.t.a.n.a." was the single for diplomatic immunity 2. i said this already, but i guess i didnt spell it out enough.

 

[Mac Casper]

rick ross is sittin pretty with his titties at #26 .

10 players to watch for:
lil boosie
meek millz
curren$y
a-mafia

plies
alley boy
trouble
joey bad@$$
vado
i may be forgetting somebody but thats 10 post-2005 singles/video makers that have shown potential to possibly crack this list in the future. but they gotta earn that spot b.

altho, i think plies is about done. sorry @StillNotSoft.



the beatles.

besides, LL has pac beat in this category.





told you so.

as for "ha", i think you just dont get the gist of the song. its a classic b. i felt like you when i first heard it. most people felt that way initially. but yea, that chit is a classic b.

No, you're wrong

 

[Still Benefited]

No need to apologize,Plies might be about done but most of that list shows no potential of ever getting started to get on plies level....and Drake is a better and more respectable choice than Juelz in all actuality but I'm not a Drake fan so won't make a argument for em....but Best I Ever Had,Succesful,Yolo,Fancy,Marvins room wuz all bigger,more impactful than them Juelz singles and AZ singles....but I digress


[ame=http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Je8K_hCej3s]E-40 Feat. Too Short "bytch Feat" / "Over The Stove" Official Music Video - YouTube[/ame]

Another single,not as popular as the others I named......and u can't chalk those singles gettin play bcuz money wuz behind it when he gettin the same play with Function independent.......if gettin a fanbase and keeping it is considered niche than I guess he niche.....dipset is more niche cuz they all had the same sound as a collective and if u wuz a fan of one u probaly checked for all they material bcuz they shared that same sound.....they shared the same fanbase due to they sound and havin a similar swag outside of jim jones.

Once that sound and swag got stale all them nikkas dissapeared so did they niche fanbase who only liked them for that particular sound that wuz hot at the moment,to me THAT'S the definition of niche...only Jim Jones who had his own style survived.

 

[Wacky D]

No need to apologize,Plies might be about done but most of that list shows no potential of ever getting started to get on plies level....and Drake is a better and more respectable choice than Juelz in all actuality but I'm not a Drake fan so won't make a argument for em....but Best I Ever Had,Succesful,Yolo,Fancy,Marvins room wuz all bigger,more impactful than them Juelz singles and AZ singles....but I digress


E-40 Feat. Too Short "bytch Feat" / "Over The Stove" Official Music Video - YouTube

Another single,not as popular as the others I named......and u can't chalk those singles gettin play bcuz money wuz behind it when he gettin the same play with Function independent.......if gettin a fanbase and keeping it is considered niche than I guess he niche.....dipset is more niche cuz they all had the same sound as a collective and if u wuz a fan of one u probaly checked for all they material bcuz they shared that same sound.....they shared the same fanbase due to they sound and havin a similar swag outside of jim jones.

Once that sound and swag got stale all them nikkas dissapeared so did they niche fanbase who only liked them for that particular sound that wuz hot at the moment,to me THAT'S the definition of niche...only Jim Jones who had his own style survived.

marvins room? really? MARVIN'S ROOM!!??

drake drops alot of bullchit. he may never make the list unless i make it more than 65 artists.

homie, i dont even know what function is. i clicked on the link. i think its that video i saw on mtv jams.

i dont think you understand what the word "niche" means. i'll leave it at that.

lol @ dipset sounding the same. thats the most ignorant chit ive seen on here in a minute. you cant be serious. i cant even begin to respond to the rest of that chit.

bizarre. very.

 

[Still Benefited]

marvins room? really? MARVIN'S ROOM!!??

drake drops alot of bullchit. he may never make the list unless i make it more than 65 artists.

homie, i dont even know what function is. i clicked on the link. i think its that video i saw on mtv jams.

i dont think you understand what the word "niche" means. i'll leave it at that.

lol @ dipset sounding the same. thats the most ignorant chit ive seen on here in a minute. you cant be serious. i cant even begin to respond to the rest of that c
bizarre. very.

I don't care if u heard it or not,its all over the radio if the remix doesn't tell u it wuz a hit.


And I don't think u know what niche is lol,they all used a bunch of multis,at times nonsensical,had the same opera sounding beats and chipmunk samples.....they all were targeting the same fanbase,that's the definition of niche bruh....once the sound and gimmick got stale they all died as a collective and solo....as a collective dipset wuz niche as fuk....they had a niche audience and capitilized on it as long as they could.

I'm usin it in proper terms,ur usin it to insult 40....no matter how many spins or records he sells "only his niche fanbase liked it"... who the hell else supposed to like it when u not sellin out and changinur style in an attempt to grab more ears and expand your brand?...people not liking him overall as a artist and rapper don't take away from them liking his SINGLES as u see the chart positions....u know how many nikkas id never by a album from but I like they singles?that's what this thread is about,not whether wacky d like em or not.

 

[Wacky D]

No, you're wrong

we can go song for song/
LL was the illest one doing it til you prove me wrong

Haha - quit while you're ahead! In terms of rapping, Ha is indefensible. I guess it could be a classic b/c it went hard in the clubs...or it was when Cash Money went nationwide. But to be clear...not b/c of the rhymes.

im not saying that its classic because of the rymes.

he wasnt trying to wow anybody with lyrics on that song.

he accomplished what he set out to do with that track. excellence of execution.

I don't care if u heard it or not,its all over the radio if the remix doesn't tell u it wuz a hit.


And I don't think u know what niche is lol,they all used a bunch of multis,at times nonsensical,had the same opera sounding beats and chipmunk samples.....they all were targeting the same fanbase,that's the definition of niche bruh....once the sound and gimmick got stale they all died as a collective and solo....as a collective dipset wuz niche as fuk....they had a niche audience and capitilized on it as long as they could.

I'm usin it in proper terms,ur usin it to insult 40....no matter how many spins or records he sells "only his niche fanbase liked it"... who the hell else supposed to like it when u not sellin out and changinur style in an attempt to grab more ears and expand your brand?...people not liking him overall as a artist and rapper don't take away from them liking his SINGLES as u see the chart positions....u know how many nikkas id never by a album from but I like they singles?that's what this thread is about,not whether wacky d like em or not.

hold up. how you gonna tell me what MY thread is about? especially after i broke down the criteria like 3 times already!!

not that it matters but they dont play it on the radio up here. i saw the video before i went down south and didnt hear it on the radio down there neither.

i do apologize for one thing. i realize that i didnt make it clear that when i said "niche", i was referring to niche audiences. but i see that we're already on the same page with that at this point, so with that said.........e-40 is the epitomy of an artist with a niche audience for the most part. dipset is the complete opposite. i cant take you seriously if you think that dipset had a niche audience.

and as far as the members of the group sharing the same fans.....thats ridiculous as well. theres lots of people that like or 2 members and hate others. they were probably the most diverse crew when it came to that. and as far as the sampling thing goes, they stopped being heavy with samples in '03. they became more popular after that. so what the hell are you talking about? what planet do you live on?

and yes, e-40 has a niche audience. and no offense but you may not realize it because you are a prime example of someone who is a member of that particular audience. and man, i think it was the next album e-40 dropped after hyphy flopped.....im not sure.....but anyways, i was working at a record store at the time. i checked out the breakdown of e-40's sales for that album. he literally sold next-to-nothing in alot of markets. i mean literally. like 5 copies and chit. i always knew he was a regional guy but that chit was str8 appalling.

i didnt even want to take it there because i gets down w/ you and i know that you harbor an emotional investment for the guy. but yea, i'll let that one marinate on you.

 

[Still Benefited]

we can go song for song/
LL was the illest one doing it til you prove me wrong



im not saying that its classic because of the rymes.

he wasnt trying to wow anybody with lyrics on that song.

he accomplished what he set out to do with that track. excellence of execution.



hold up. how you gonna tell me what MY thread is about? especially after i broke down the criteria like 3 times already!!

not that it matters but they dont play it on the radio up here. i saw the video before i went down south and didnt hear it on the radio down there neither.

i do apologize for one thing. i realize that i didnt make it clear that when i said "niche", i was referring to niche audiences. but i see that we're already on the same page with that at this point, so with that said.........e-40 is the epitomy of an artist with a niche audience for the most part. dipset is the complete opposite. i cant take you seriously if you think that dipset had a niche audience.

and as far as the members of the group sharing the same fans.....thats ridiculous as well. theres lots of people that like or 2 members and hate others. they were probably the most diverse crew when it came to that. and as far as the sampling thing goes, they stopped being heavy with samples in '03. they became more popular after that. so what the hell are you talking about? what planet do you live on?

and yes, e-40 has a niche audience. and no offense but you may not realize it because you are a prime example of someone who is a member of that particular audience. and man, i think it was the next album e-40 dropped after hyphy flopped.....im not sure.....but anyways, i was working at a record store at the time. i checked out the breakdown of e-40's sales for that album. he literally sold next-to-nothing in alot of markets. i mean literally. like 5 copies and chit. i always knew he was a regional guy but that chit was str8 appalling.

i didnt even want to take it there because i gets down w/ you and i know that you harbor an emotional investment for the guy. but yea, i'll let that one marinate on you.

Well stop making arguments for shyt that it ain't about and then everytime I flip it "it ain't about that".....I know u used that relevant in multiple eras shyt against me earlier even tho that wuz false,then when I used it in 40 favor u ignore it.......and dipset fans may have been stanning but they certainly wuz gassin up every weed carrier in hat crew from 40 cal,hell rell,jr writer,they wuz checkin for them nikkas cuz they all catered to the same audience.....and I said chipmunk and them opera beats,they still had them damn opera beats goin.....far as what E-40 sold after that


"The Ball Street Journal is the 10th studio album by rapper E-40. It was released on November 24, 2008. The first single from the album is "Wake It Up" featuring Akon. The album debuted at number one on the U.S. Billboard 200 chart, with 50,000 copies in its first-week of sales, and has since sold over 450,000 copies. [6] The album features guest appearances by Shawty Lo, Turf Talk,"


Bay area stand up we untouchable.....and I didn't even mention that akon or tpain single he had on Ball Street Journal cuz they wuz both wack,just to make the point I'm not just throwin out singles......now what did juelz sell after his album that had Oh Yes and Whistle Song on it oh that's right he ain't put shyt out since,guess he can't find that single...meanwhile my nikka who hasn't been selling once he went independent got a single all over the radio,one of the hottest of the summer actually.

Just stop it Wacky matter of fact let me stop,I've proven my point up in here to anybody with eyes and won this debate

 

[mobbinfms]

Well stop making arguments for shyt that it ain't about and then everytime I flip it "it ain't about that".....I know u used that relevant in multiple eras shyt against me earlier even tho that wuz false,then when I used it in 40 favor u ignore it.......and dipset fans may have been stanning but they certainly wuz gassin up every weed carrier in hat crew from 40 cal,hell rell,jr writer,they wuz checkin for them nikkas cuz they all catered to the same audience.....and I said chipmunk and them opera beats,they still had them damn opera beats goin.....far as what E-40 sold after that


"The Ball Street Journal is the 10th studio album by rapper E-40. It was released on November 24, 2008. The first single from the album is "Wake It Up" featuring Akon. The album debuted at number one on the U.S. Billboard 200 chart, with 50,000 copies in its first-week of sales, and has since sold over 450,000 copies. [6] The album features guest appearances by Shawty Lo, Turf Talk,"


Bay area stand up we untouchable.....and I didn't even mention that akon or tpain single he had on Ball Street Journal cuz they wuz both wack,just to make the point I'm not just throwin out singles......now what did juelz sell after his album that had Oh Yes and Whistle Song on it oh that's right he ain't put shyt out since,guess he can't find that single...meanwhile my nikka who hasn't been selling once he went independent got a single all over the radio,one of the hottest of the summer actually.

Just stop it Wacky matter of fact let me stop,I've proven my point up in here to anybody with eyes and won this debate

I agree with you. Wacky needs to go ahead and put E-40 on the list. Just make it a three way tie for 65th if you want. The case has been made. Numerous hit singles. Numerous quality singles. Relevance over 20 years. Talented rapper. The only knock on him is he is a regional artist (I think regional is the better term). Still - any halfway interested hip hop fan knows who 40 is and knows he's a factor. If Jim Jones can be 18th on this list, at a minimum, 40 has to be included somewhere.

I disagree with you that Dipset appealed to a niche market. I think they were always in line with what was going on in mainstream rap. They had a dedicated following - but that doesn't make them niche artists. There was nothing that out of the mainstream with their production or the rhymes (the rhymes just sucked for the most part!).

 

[Wacky D]

Well stop making arguments for shyt that it ain't about and then everytime I flip it "it ain't about that".....I know u used that relevant in multiple eras shyt against me earlier even tho that wuz false,then when I used it in 40 favor u ignore it.......and dipset fans may have been stanning but they certainly wuz gassin up every weed carrier in hat crew from 40 cal,hell rell,jr writer,they wuz checkin for them nikkas cuz they all catered to the same audience.....and I said chipmunk and them opera beats,they still had them damn opera beats goin.....far as what E-40 sold after that


"The Ball Street Journal is the 10th studio album by rapper E-40. It was released on November 24, 2008. The first single from the album is "Wake It Up" featuring Akon. The album debuted at number one on the U.S. Billboard 200 chart, with 50,000 copies in its first-week of sales, and has since sold over 450,000 copies. [6] The album features guest appearances by Shawty Lo, Turf Talk,"


Bay area stand up we untouchable.....and I didn't even mention that akon or tpain single he had on Ball Street Journal cuz they wuz both wack,just to make the point I'm not just throwin out singles......now what did juelz sell after his album that had Oh Yes and Whistle Song on it oh that's right he ain't put shyt out since,guess he can't find that single...meanwhile my nikka who hasn't been selling once he went independent got a single all over the radio,one of the hottest of the summer actually.

Just stop it Wacky matter of fact let me stop,I've proven my point up in here to anybody with eyes and won this debate

i didnt ignore anything. yes e-40 has been relevant in multiple eras, and i credited him for that. its just that his relevance is on a relatively small scale so i can only give him but so much credit. you just dont seem to comprehend this for some reason. well we know why.

do you not know what niche audience means? it means that you appeal to a certain audience and just that for the most part. that describes e-40. dipset is the complete opposite. do you understand now?

lol. 1st it was the soul sampling, now its the opera beats. whats the next excuse youre going to use? the funny thing is, they werent doing much of any of that stuff when they peaked in popularity. and lol, hell rell & j.r. writer cater to the same exact audience to you? this is just ridiculous.

you think juelz hasnt released an album just because he doesnt have that hit? are you that far out the loop? and even if that were the case, wheres e-40's "oh yes". why hasnt he ever had THAT HIT?? where is it?

50,000 copies(lol. big whoop) and how much across the board did those sales spread? that was the point. youre not slick. i mean, i hope you were trying to be slick. please dont tell me that you cant comprehend what im saying here.

you "won" what argument? where are all these points that you claim to have made? most of your posts in this thread are filled with homer statements and suffer from a lack of awareness. the actual points that you made were things that i was already in agreement with.

 

[Still Benefited]

i didnt ignore anything. yes e-40 has been relevant in multiple eras, and i credited him for that. its just that his relevance is on a relatively small scale so i can only give him but so much credit. you just dont seem to comprehend this for some reason. well we know why.

do you not know what niche audience means? it means that you appeal to a certain audience and just that for the most part. that describes e-40. dipset is the complete opposite. do you understand now?

lol. 1st it was the soul sampling, now its the opera beats. whats the next excuse youre going to use? the funny thing is, they werent doing much of any of that stuff when they peaked in popularity. and lol, hell rell & j.r. writer cater to the same exact audie
nce to you? this is just ridiculous.

you think juelz hasnt released an album just because he doesnt have that hit? are you that far out the loop? and even if that were the case, wheres e-40's "oh yes". why hasnt he ever had THAT HIT?? where is it?

50,000 copies(lol. big whoop) and how much across the board did those sales spread? that was the point. youre not slick. i mean, i hope you were trying to be slick. please dont tell me that you cant comprehend what im saying here.

you "won" what argument? where are all these points that you claim to have made? most of your posts in this thread are filled with homer statements and suffer from a lack of awareness. the actual points that you made were things that i was already in agreement with.

How the hell am I supposed to know how far cross the sales spread,point is u said he sold like 5000 copies and flopped embarrasinglt when in fact he sold 450K on his 10th album.....meanwhile Juelz sold 300K on his debut with those nationwide smash singles you posted from his first album,that sound extra regional to me lol and the population of NY a lot bigger than the bay which means he couldnta be that damn hot locally......since u think bay nikkas all buyin these 40 albums gettin em platinum plaques....Juelz went plat on his second album though,some would call that anikka who had a couple hits and dissapeared,we've seen alotta those,Hammer better be on the list if that's all it takes......

And if them nikkas ain't have a niche audience how the hell they all fall off and become irrelevant at the same damn time....bcuz that sound and they rap style all catered to the same audience,got stale as fuk,And the audience that liked that shyt moved on to sumthin else and stopped checking for that whole collective...and check my og post on the matter I said chipmunk samples and opera beats....those dramatic for no reason shyts.

And what u mean "u appeal to a certain audience and only that"? That describes a whole lotta people including majority of dipset who wuz stuck on koch,basically any nikka who ain't reached for a pop sellout record.....when u become a platinum selling artist its hard to use the niche word?alotta people liked that shyt

 

[Mac Casper]

we can go song for song/
LL was the illest one doing it til you prove me wrong



im not saying that its classic because of the rymes.

he wasnt trying to wow anybody with lyrics on that song.

he accomplished what he set out to do with that track. excellence of execution.

hold up. how you gonna tell me what MY thread is about? especially after i broke down the criteria like 3 times already!!

not that it matters but they dont play it on the radio up here. i saw the video before i went down south and didnt hear it on the radio down there neither.

i do apologize for one thing. i realize that i didnt make it clear that when i said "niche", i was referring to niche audiences. but i see that we're already on the same page with that at this point, so with that said.........e-40 is the epitomy of an artist with a niche audience for the most part. dipset is the complete opposite. i cant take you seriously if you think that dipset had a niche audience.

and as far as the members of the group sharing the same fans.....thats ridiculous as well. theres lots of people that like or 2 members and hate others. they were probably the most diverse crew when it came to that. and as far as the sampling thing goes, they stopped being heavy with samples in '03. they became more popular after that. so what the hell are you talking about? what planet do you live on?

and yes, e-40 has a niche audience. and no offense but you may not realize it because you are a prime example of someone who is a member of that particular audience. and man, i think it was the next album e-40 dropped after hyphy flopped.....im not sure.....but anyways, i was working at a record store at the time. i checked out the breakdown of e-40's sales for that album. he literally sold next-to-nothing in alot of markets. i mean literally. like 5 copies and chit. i always knew he was a regional guy but that chit was str8 appalling.

i didnt even want to take it there because i gets down w/ you and i know that you harbor an emotional investment for the guy. but yea, i'll let that one marinate on you.

I accept your offer

"Brenda's Got a Baby"
"If My Homies Call"
"Trapped"
"Holla If Ya Hear Me"
"I Get Around"
"Keep Ya Head Up"
"Papa'z Song"
"Pour Out a Little Liquor"
"How Long Will They Mourn Me"
"Dear Mama"
"Temptations"
"California Love"
"How Do You Want It"
"2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted"
"All About U"
"I Ain't Mad at Cha"
"Toss It Up"
"Hail Mary"
^^^ Greatest catalog of singles any hip-hop artist has to offer
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Now to continue with posthumous released

"I Wonder If Heaven Got a Ghetto"
"Do For Love"
"Changes"
"Until the End of Time"
"Thugz Mansion"
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