SWITCH: Top 60 Solo Artists In Terms Of Singles

[mobbinfms]

yea oblivious is the right word. you show little cognizance concerning anything thats not poppin amongst yourself and your circle.

i mean, unless youre just not from that type of environment. maybe your circle is the only hip-hop circle at your disposal wherever youre from. if thats the case, then sure 'oblivious' may be a strong word. but youre still out-the-loop.

Its the wrong word - look it up.

 

[Wacky D]

In a thread about singles chart positions and records sold off those singles are empty and meaningless,realize how damn goofy that sounds?...I don't lack perspective difference is you pass your perspective out as if its fact or sumthin when it ain't based off shyt but u and your circles opinions....my bad if this thread wuz just about singles YOU think are hot....as long as that's what this is then cool,historically it lacks accuracy tho and screams bias and I see excuses for everything....40 never had a single that stopped time but Juelz and AZ did stop it...like I said if its your personal list then it is what it is...if throwin the stats in the bushes helps your argument so be it



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AZ does indeed have a single on the level and/or higher than that of a juelz single. he made "sugar hill". lol. when did you get into rap b?

homie, i already explained the criteria multiple times. if you want to just ignore it and continue to throw out bullchit claims, then take that ish somewhere else.

you also keep saying that im basing this list off of me & my circles, which is more bullchit. if that was the case, then this list would be completely different. and im rolling over the fact that these allegations are coming from you - one of the most notorious homers on this board.

and yes, you lack perspective BADLY. you didnt even know what you were talking about with half your comments in this thread.

Its the wrong word - look it up.

 

[Still Benefited]

Sugar Hill stopped time:laffe: where ?on the east coast ?ok that's what this is.....I admit to bein a homersome of this list is from the fuked up perspective of a homer which is cool....but we talkin facts here homie....that's all I've bought to the table here....meanwhile u bring up what nikkas around u wuz caring about at thae time passin it off like that's what the wole country wuz thinking....the fact u think sugar hill stopped time and that az and juelz singles are fukin wit 40s says exactly that

 

[Wacky D]

Sugar Hill stopped time:laffe: where ?on the east coast ?ok that's what this is.....I admit to bein a homersome of this list is from the fuked up perspective of a homer which is cool....but we talkin facts here homie....that's all I've bought to the table here....meanwhile u bring up what nikkas around u wuz caring about at thae time passin it off like that's what the wole country wuz thinking....the fact u think sugar hill stopped time and that az and juelz singles are fukin wit 40s says exactly that

i never said sugar hill stopped time. im saying it was bigger than any e-40 single and on par with/or bigger than any juelz joint.

there you go with the sucka chit again. putting words in my mouth and once again, trying to tell me that the list is based around me and my friends when that is far far from the truth. i take it that this is your go-to move when you have nothing to say. but in my book, these are sucka moves and im beginning to see why some of the elite posters on here have a tendency to play you out on the type-disrespectful tip.

knock that chit off man. we can disagree and go back-n-forth, but when you do bullchit like this, i continuously lose respect for you.

 

[Still Benefited]

i never said sugar hill stopped time. im saying it was bigger than any e-40 single and on par with/or bigger than any juelz joint.

there you go with the sucka chit again. putting words in my mouth and once again, trying to tell me that the list is based around me and my friends when that is far far from the truth. i take it that this is your go-to move when you have nothing to say. but in my book, these are sucka moves and im beginning to see why some of the elite posters on here have a tendency to play you out on the type-disrespectful tip.

knock that chit off man. we can disagree and go back-n-forth, but when you do bullchit like this, i continuously lose respect for you.

Stop cryin nikka u said E-40 didn't have a single that stopped time,i phrased it as a question assuming if e40 needed one single that stopped time to get on this list than AZ would too I didn't say u said it,but I guess it don't work like that....even tho 40 has multiple singles bigger than AZ's other singles guess we gon just talk about that 1 single....even tho thread title says in terms of SINGLES which I believe is plural ain't it?but yea let's just talk about 1 AZ single that wuznt even on no monster shyt but in fact very comparable to 40's biggest singles(maybe not on east coast but who cares)....and u did in this thread bring up the fact u asked lil nikkas in the south about E-40 and they didn't fuk with him but they fuked with Juelz convienintly proving your point....and then u bought up the time when even tho Baby said E-40 wuz a legend down there a random poster on here said "we don't fuk wit E40 down here" I guess proving u right once again....so stop bringin up bullshyt reference points and then get mad when u get called on em....so far the overall numbers don't match up with ur perspective and they do for mines.....when the numbers don't add up u can always bring up the phantom numbers from the record store I have to take your word for....and this phantom "bootleg game" that managed to crush Juelz sales on his debut even tho he had those great singles and buzz behind them.


Oh and can't forget these "elite posters" that played me out?played me?played me.....regardless if I listened to what other posters said we wouldn't have had this convo after the first couple pages...just go back and look at the post in this thread disrespcting YOUR opinions....only one of us got a thread about what a horrible poster we are and how we make shyt up and have horrible opinions....and it wuznt me....so be careful if u wanna start havin everybody take stock in what other posters have to say....speak your piece but I'm thru with this argument for real this time its goin nowhere and I wouldn't want u to lose more respect for me...ill let the people decide

 

[Wacky D]

Stop cryin nikka u said E-40 didn't have a single that stopped time,i phrased it as a question assuming if e40 needed one single that stopped time to get on this list than AZ would too I didn't say u said it,but I guess it don't work like that....even tho 40 has multiple singles bigger than AZ's other singles guess we gon just talk about that 1 single....even tho thread title says in terms of SINGLES which I believe is plural ain't it?but yea let's just talk about 1 AZ single that wuznt even on no monster shyt but in fact very comparable to 40's biggest singles(maybe not on east coast but who cares)....and u did in this thread bring up the fact u asked lil nikkas in the south about E-40 and they didn't fuk with him but they fuked with Juelz convienintly proving your point....and then u bought up the time when even tho Baby said E-40 wuz a legend down there a random poster on here said "we don't fuk wit E40 down here" I guess proving u right once again....so stop bringin up bullshyt reference points and then get mad when u get called on em....so far the overall numbers don't match up with ur perspective and they do for mines.....when the numbers don't add up u can always bring up the phantom numbers from the record store I have to take your word for....and this phantom "bootleg game" that managed to crush Juelz sales on his debut even tho he had those great singles and buzz behind them.


Oh and can't forget these "elite posters" that played me out?played me?played me.....regardless if I listened to what other posters said we wouldn't have had this convo after the first couple pages...just go back and look at the post in this thread disrespcting YOUR opinions....only one of us got a thread about what a horrible poster we are and how we make shyt up and have horrible opinions....and it wuznt me....so be careful if u wanna start havin everybody take stock in what other posters have to say....speak your piece but I'm thru with this argument for real this time its goin nowhere and I wouldn't want u to lose more respect for me...ill let the people decide

i could care less about you supposedly calling me out. what pisses me off is you misquoting me about over 20 times in here. and youre doing it in this post. i never said that i asked "lil ni**as" about e-40 when i was living down there. why would i even ask them? hes not of their era. nor did i say that people didnt f**k with him down south. i just said that hes not the big-time legend down there that you seem to think. you took that and translated it another way on your own.

and then theres stuff that you argue me down about, knowing that youre out-of-pocket. you clearly dont know which juelz album is which. so stop speaking on it. you look silly right now.

im not taking stock in posters. i just made a quick statement. but if you want to take it there, then we can take it there. i could care less about the people that came in here complaining. 90% of them are d*cks(and im being generous with that 10%). half of them prolly didnt even read the list and just came in here to talk chit because they hold a grudge. i wouldnt even want to be cosigned by most of them. if they did, it would make me think im wrong, actually.

heres the difference between me & you: i get respect from the real heads on here, even when they disagree with me or get mad at me, theres still a respect factor. they dont respect you. im prolly the only legit poster that really vouched for you like that. so yea, you really dont want to take it there. stick to the script.

and im still waiting for you to drop some e-40 singles that i may have ommitted. all you did was drop links to the so-so singles hes dropped in recent years. i prolly know more e-40 singles than you. all youre doing is yappin & swingin your bay flag.

 

[Still Benefited]

i could care less about you supposedly calling me out. what pisses me off is you misquoting me about over 20 times in here. and youre doing it in this post. i never said that i asked "lil ni**as" about e-40 when i was living down there. why would i even ask them? hes not of their era. nor did i say that people didnt f**k with him down south. i just said that hes not the big-time legend down there that you seem to think. you took that and translated it another way on your own.

and then theres stuff that you argue me down about, knowing that youre out-of-pocket. you clearly dont know which juelz album is which. so stop speaking on it. you look silly right now.

im not taking stock in posters. i just made a quick statement. but if you want to take it there, then we can take it there. i could care less about the people that came in here complaining. 90% of them are d*cks(and im being generous with that 10%). half of them prolly didnt even read the list and just came in here to talk chit because they hold a grudge. i wouldnt even want to be cosigned by most of them. if they did, it would make me think im wrong, actually.

heres the difference between me & you: i get respect from the real heads on here, even when they disagree with me or get mad at me, theres still a respect factor. they dont respect you. im prolly the only legit poster that really vouched for you like that. so yea, you really dont want to take it there. stick to the script.

and im still waiting for you to drop some e-40 singles that i may have ommitted. all you did was drop links to the so-so singles hes dropped in recent years. i prolly know more e-40 singles than you. all youre doing is yappin & swingin your bay flag.

If misquoted u my bad it wuznt intentional,call it out and il l recheck it,if we replyin a week apart I could be off and if I am I correct it.....I don't have a reason to intentionally misquote u when ur argument are horrible and lack conistency.....we had a couple misunderstanding not 20 gross misquotes,u didn't say the part about "lil nikkas" I looked back and u didn't say that....u said u never heard a peep from e40 down south and nobody ever mentioned him but they had luv for Juelz...still gets the .....I mustve assumed u wuz talkin about lil nikkas cuz I know for a fact regardless of who u fuk with down there ain't no older nikkas got luv for no damn juelz and not E40.

And I guess u gon make excuses for why nikkas don't like u like u been makin excuses throughout this thread......the ones u deem "elite" respect u but not me huh....unless u wanna name names that "quick comment" wuz irrelevant cuz I haven't seen it or been called out for it like u have......I'm not gon just assume its a respect factor there cuz its quite irrelevent.....there's opinions I respect and those I don't,I don't respect every opinion if I feel like its sum flat out bullshyt,that's how I feel about that wack azz juelz over e-40 pick....I don't respect u less as a poster but I have a complete lack of respect for your opinion on the subject of E40.....when ur perspective goes against what I've seen heard,witnessed,numbers say what else I'm gon do?respect your opinion no.



But like I said I'm done with it,ain't no white flag ur perspective is just completley opposite of mines ane numbers don't validate your prspective but they do validate mines simple as that....but u even got excuses for why the numbers don't match bcuz u so stuck on ur perspective bein fact...until u get sum more concrete criteria ain't no sense in arguin it,ull find a reason to make it not valid....said Luke wuz relevant in multiple eras which I still didn't see a good reason for that or u explain it in detail like u claim u did,read the entire thread...if I'm wrong tell me the post....if u don't acknoledge the e40 singles I post as classic I don't think u will like any 40 singles,no need to keep namin shyt.....have ur list the way u want it...I made my case had sumbody agree with me with me

 

[Wacky D]

If misquoted u my bad it wuznt intentional,call it out and il l recheck it,if we replyin a week apart I could be off and if I am I correct it.....I don't have a reason to intentionally misquote u when ur argument are horrible and lack conistency.....we had a couple misunderstanding not 20 gross misquotes,u didn't say the part about "lil nikkas" I looked back and u didn't say that....u said u never heard a peep from e40 down south and nobody ever mentioned him but they had luv for Juelz...still gets the .....I mustve assumed u wuz talkin about lil nikkas cuz I know for a fact regardless of who u fuk with down there ain't no older nikkas got luv for no damn juelz and not E40.

And I guess u gon make excuses for why nikkas don't like u like u been makin excuses throughout this thread......the ones u deem "elite" respect u but not me huh....unless u wanna name names that "quick comment" wuz irrelevant cuz I haven't seen it or been called out for it like u have......I'm not gon just assume its a respect factor there cuz its quite irrelevent.....there's opinions I respect and those I don't,I don't respect every opinion if I feel like its sum flat out bullshyt,that's how I feel about that wack azz juelz over e-40 pick....I don't respect u less as a poster but I have a complete lack of respect for your opinion on the subject of E40.....when ur perspective goes against what I've seen heard,witnessed,numbers say what else I'm gon do?respect your opinion no.



But like I said I'm done with it,ain't no white flag ur perspective is just completley opposite of mines ane numbers don't validate your prspective but they do validate mines simple as that....but u even got excuses for why the numbers don't match bcuz u so stuck on ur perspective bein fact...until u get sum more concrete criteria ain't no sense in arguin it,ull find a reason to make it not valid....said Luke wuz relevant in multiple eras which I still didn't see a good reason for that or u explain it in detail like u claim u did,read the entire thread...if I'm wrong tell me the post....if u don't acknoledge the e40 singles I post as classic I don't think u will like any 40 singles,no need to keep namin shyt.....have ur list the way u want it...I made my case had sumbody agree with me with me

dog, you been misquoting me all thru the thread, and i called you out each time. dont play stupid. sometimes i'd call you out and you would even go back to talking the same chit.

when i said i never heard a peep about e-40 down south, i was referring to his buzz in the past decade. i understand your confusion with that tho. but i wasnt saying he never was buzzin down there. ive even stated the opposite of that multiple times in the thread.

i never said my perspective was fact. im not even going by just my own perspective. thats what youre doing actually. and thats why bay area posters always get a bad rap on every message board ive been to, because most of yall are always stuck in your own little world.

and again, the list isnt just based off my perspective. its based on a number of things. i gave the criteria. and with that said and with all things considered, e-40 just didnt make the cut. if you have a problem with that, dont blame it on my perspective. blame it on my criteria.

luke has hits stemming from the '80s all the way up to the early '00s. and im talking nationally popular records. not just southern. not just florida.

im not making excuses for anything concerning certain people not liking me. im just telling it like it is. i could give a f*ck either way. as for you, i apologize for making that comment but i wasnt lying. i could drop names in a PM if you like. i might can pull up a couple posts. its not that serious tho. but just know, i back my statements up.

 

[mobbinfms]

dog, you been misquoting me all thru the thread, and i called you out each time. dont play stupid. sometimes i'd call you out and you would even go back to talking the same chit.

when i said i never heard a peep about e-40 down south, i was referring to his buzz in the past decade. i understand your confusion with that tho. but i wasnt saying he never was buzzin down there. ive even stated the opposite of that multiple times in the thread.

i never said my perspective was fact. im not even going by just my own perspective. thats what youre doing actually. and thats why bay area posters always get a bad rap on every message board ive been to, because most of yall are always stuck in your own little world.

and again, the list isnt just based off my perspective. its based on a number of things. i gave the criteria. and with that said and with all things considered, e-40 just didnt make the cut. if you have a problem with that, dont blame it on my perspective. blame it on my criteria.

luke has hits stemming from the '80s all the way up to the early '00s. and im talking nationally popular records. not just southern. not just florida.

im not making excuses for anything concerning certain people not liking me. im just telling it like it is. i could give a f*ck either way. as for you, i apologize for making that comment but i wasnt lying. i could drop names in a PM if you like. i might can pull up a couple posts. its not that serious tho. but just know, i back my statements up.

You're regressing here a bit. Obviously you are the one applying your criteria to the singles and that makes the list subjective. You already admitted this a few posts back.

I think AZ, Juelz and Capo may be the most overrated artists on the list. But thats my opinion (with the exception of Juelz - who's impact should really be stunted by your criteria since he never had a big solo single).

 

[Still Benefited]

dog, you been misquoting me all thru the thread, and i called you out each time. dont play stupid. sometimes i'd call you out and you would even go back to talking the same chit.

when i said i never heard a peep about e-40 down south, i was referring to his buzz in the past decade. i understand your confusion with that tho. but i wasnt saying he never was buzzin down there. ive even stated the opposite of that multiple times in the thread.

i never said my perspective was fact. im not even going by just my own perspective. thats what youre doing actually. and thats why bay area posters always get a bad rap on every message board ive been to, because most of yall are always stuck in your own little world.

and again, the list isnt just based off my perspective. its based on a number of things. i gave the criteria. and with that said and with all things considered, e-40 just didnt make the cut. if you have a problem with that, dont blame it on my perspective. blame it on my criteria.

luke has hits stemming from the '80s all the way up to the early '00s. and im talking nationally popular records. not just southern. not just florida.

im not making excuses for anything concerning certain people not liking me. im just telling it like it is. i could give a f*ck either way. as for you, i apologize for making that comment but i wasnt lying. i could drop names in a PM if you like. i might can pull up a couple posts. its not that serious tho. but just know, i back my statements up.

If u can find post saying I'm a horrible poster id luv to see em cuz I never seen em but If u don't wanna do that leg work its whatever,ill take ya word its sum nikkas out there that don't like me..but back to the important things,using your own criteria is fine I just don't think your crieria is all that consistent and a lot of it is you using your own perspective on what you think wuz a hot people...a few people came in and told u those Game singles wuznt memorable but u have a different perspective and you gon roll with that......thing is u not realizin the list is sumwhat skewed by your perspective....u take a nikka from a different region like Cali,South,Midwest and I can damn near guarantee Juelz and Az don't sniff the list,when u ignore the numbers,chart positions completley that's what's bound to happen....charts ain't region bias,or perspective bias.

You at least need concrete criteria if nothing else,for sum artist I feel like u put them ahead based off the quality of the singles bcuz u liked em and ignore the fact they wuznt really hits....and with others u ignore quality and vault them over another artist soley bcuz they song wuz a hit.....Ddo Doo Brown and Raise the roof I'm sorry but it don't match 40's output in multiple eras,or Too Shorts imo either overall and damn sure quality wise....I don't remember if he on the list or not but Hammer definitly need to be on here,he had hits better than them Luke songs and wuz obviously bigger hits....wuznt relevant in multiple eras but that's criteria your willing to ignore for Juelz,his impact wuz so much greater than Juelz,and yes important in the hiphop world Hammer should be pretty high.

U gotta lay out what's more important in your criteria,the fact wuz a hit,the quality,is relevant in multiple eras really important or isn't it...Juelz and Az don't fit the criteria,and they hits wuznt on a level that large they should make the cut....a south nikka could just as easily nominate Slim Thug,Lil Flip,David Banner,Webbie over Juelz,Webbie would be a shoe in....as a east coast artist the fact he had more media attention then the others is nuthing new and quite irrelevant...that's y I think to ignore the chart numbers is an injustice really

 

[Wacky D]

You're regressing here a bit. Obviously you are the one applying your criteria to the singles and that makes the list subjective. You already admitted this a few posts back.

I think AZ, Juelz and Capo may be the most overrated artists on the list. But thats my opinion (with the exception of Juelz - who's impact should really be stunted by your criteria since he never had a big solo single).

how am i regressing?

and juelz didnt have big singles nows?

If u can find post saying I'm a horrible poster id luv to see em cuz I never seen em but If u don't wanna do that leg work its whatever,ill take ya word its sum nikkas out there that don't like me..but back to the important things,using your own criteria is fine I just don't think your crieria is all that consistent and a lot of it is you using your own perspective on what you think wuz a hot people...a few people came in and told u those Game singles wuznt memorable but u have a different perspective and you gon roll with that......thing is u not realizin the list is sumwhat skewed by your perspective....u take a nikka from a different region like Cali,South,Midwest and I can damn near guarantee Juelz and Az don't sniff the list,when u ignore the numbers,chart positions completley that's what's bound to happen....charts ain't region bias,or perspective bias.

You at least need concrete criteria if nothing else,for sum artist I feel like u put them ahead based off the quality of the singles bcuz u liked em and ignore the fact they wuznt really hits....and with others u ignore quality and vault them over another artist soley bcuz they song wuz a hit.....Ddo Doo Brown and Raise the roof I'm sorry but it don't match 40's output in multiple eras,or Too Shorts imo either overall and damn sure quality wise....I don't remember if he on the list or not but Hammer definitly need to be on here,he had hits better than them Luke songs and wuz obviously bigger hits....wuznt relevant in multiple eras but that's criteria your willing to ignore for Juelz,his impact wuz so much greater than Juelz,and yes important in the hiphop world Hammer should be pretty high.

U gotta lay out what's more important in your criteria,the fact wuz a hit,the quality,is relevant in multiple eras really important or isn't it...Juelz and Az don't fit the criteria,and they hits wuznt on a level that large they should make the cut....a south nikka could just as easily nominate Slim Thug,Lil Flip,David Banner,Webbie over Juelz,Webbie would be a shoe in....as a east coast artist the fact he had more media attention then the others is nuthing new and quite irrelevant...that's y I think to ignore the chart numbers is an injustice really

i didnt say that i saw anyone call you a "horrible poster". im referring to how posters that actually matter have either played you out(some instances were type-disrespectful) or sorta brushed you off. its not that serious tho.

mc hammer is sitting pretty on this list with a nice ranking. i dont know why you think he isnt on here. maybe its your bay-dar senses going off.

again, this list isnt just based off my perspective. if it was, then game would be lower or maybe not on the list at all. see what im saying? and are we gonna act like game doesnt have memorable singles? and i remember that argument. i was being argued down by eminem stans, mind you.

theres no east coast favoritism with this list. i fed the south, west & midwest extremely well with both this and the group list.(i dont know if yall saw that one. AZ didnt make the list because hes east coast. he was a quality pick. his singles catalog is TOO DOPE to deny. that mixed with the fact that he did have that big single to break the ice. thats how he got on here. im not gonna omit him because he was signed to chitty labels. this isnt a numbers list.

and i dont know how many times i have to state that this isnt a numbers list. yes, i take numbers into consideration but im not gonna put a whole bunch of stock into it because numbers lie. if you want a list like that, then go watch & read an industry list and watch them not mention E-40 at all. at least he got honorable mention on my list and actually made the cut on the original rough draft.

i dont make my lists for commercial heads, kids & fuse channel enthusiasts. nor are my lists intended for internetd nerds. I MAKE MY LISTS FOR THE NI**AS. the people that this hip-hop chit is supposed to be all about. and since nobody else is doing it online, offline, or in the industry, then i'll step up and do the honors. im not saying that you should agree with all my picks. thats not humanly possible. nobody is gonna cosign anybody's entire list. but you gotta respect it....and yes, i was prepared for you to come in here and rep e-40 hardbody the moment i realized that he didnt make the cut. and thats wassup. you have the right to do that. i want you to. its just the way you went about it with the constant misquotes, and then your persistent ramblings about artists that youre very misinformed on. that stuff irks me.

luke had more singles than just "doo doo brown" & "raise the roof".

lol @ putting slim thug, lil flip, webbie & david banner over juelz:
- david banner is on the list, actually.
- lil flip & slim thug did their thing but top 65? nah.
- webbie barely has any singles, and only one of real worth. hes not even the highest ranked from his label. lil boosie ranks higher and will most likely crack this list once he returns from vacation. hes already on the cusp.

 

[Still Benefited]

how am i regressing?

and juelz didnt have big singles nows?



i didnt say that i saw anyone call you a "horrible poster". im referring to how posters that actually matter have either played you out(some instances were type-disrespectful) or sorta brushed you off. its not that serious tho.

mc hammer is sitting pretty on this list with a nice ranking. i dont know why you think he isnt on here. maybe its your bay-dar senses going off.

again, this list isnt just based off my perspective. if it was, then game would be lower or maybe not on the list at all. see what im saying? and are we gonna act like game doesnt have memorable singles? and i remember that argument. i was being argued down by eminem stans, mind you.

theres no east coast favoritism with this list. i fed the south, west & midwest extremely well with both this and the group list.(i dont know if yall saw that one. AZ didnt make the list because hes east coast. he was a quality pick. his singles catalog is TOO DOPE to deny. that mixed with the fact that he did have that big single to break the ice. thats how he got on here. im not gonna omit him because he was signed to chitty labels. this isnt a numbers list.

and i dont know how many times i have to state that this isnt a numbers list. yes, i take numbers into consideration but im not gonna put a whole bunch of stock into it because numbers lie. if you want a list like that, then go watch & read an industry list and watch them not mention E-40 at all. at least he got honorable mention on my list and actually made the cut on the original rough draft.

i dont make my lists for commercial heads, kids & fuse channel enthusiasts. nor are my lists intended for internetd nerds. I MAKE MY LISTS FOR THE NI**AS. the people that this hip-hop chit is supposed to be all about. and since nobody else is doing it online, offline, or in the industry, then i'll step up and do the honors. im not saying that you should agree with all my picks. thats not humanly possible. nobody is gonna cosign anybody's entire list. but you gotta respect it....and yes, i was prepared for you to come in here and rep e-40 hardbody the moment i realized that he didnt make the cut. and thats wassup. you have the right to do that. i want you to. its just the way you went about it with the constant misquotes, and then your persistent ramblings about artists that youre very misinformed on. that stuff irks me.

luke had more singles than just "doo doo brown" & "raise the roof".

lol @ putting slim thug, lil flip, webbie & david banner over juelz:
- david banner is on the list, actually.
- lil flip & slim thug did their thing but top 65? nah.
- webbie barely has any singles, and only one of real worth. hes not even the highest ranked from his label. lil boosie ranks higher and will most likely crack this list once he returns from vacation. hes already on the cusp.

Oh I ain't worried about nikkas playin me off like that,that just mean them nikkas ain't have a argument in my mind.....if it ain't about numbers I don't see why you've been engaging me about numbers or bought up the idea 40's singles ain't get much play where u were to begin with......I could say the same for juelz and especially AZ.....if its about mostly quality and u makin it for the nikkas it should be about who got the most classic quality singles and nuthin else.....from quality standpoint if that's what u takin the most stock in I can see how AZ is on the list,I think his fans do consider those classic AZ records....as for Juelz how many of his fans actually consider most of those juelz singles "classic" juelz records?....I don't think so,do nikkas still bump Oh Yes,or the whistle song....and as singles they wuz cheeks,the fact they wuz succesful wuz really the only thing saving u with that pick......on the other hand E40 fans think most of the singles I listed are classic.....and despite what u might think no he ain't goin platinum off mostly the bay,and there's never been artist in the bay who could potentially go plat off just bay support....not sure where u got that from besides bay nigggas probaly talkin shyt.....anybody that did numbers and went gold or plat from the bay go play outside of it.....don't know how u think E40's numbers can be all bay when Juelz from NY and number wise they actually have had artist go gold who really only got play for real there....10 pages and no cosign of a juelz stan should say sumthin,I at least got smbody to cosign me and I don't think he from the bay

 

[Wacky D]

Oh I ain't worried about nikkas playin me off like that,that just mean them nikkas ain't have a argument in my mind.....if it ain't about numbers I don't see why you've been engaging me about numbers or bought up the idea 40's singles ain't get much play where u were to begin with......I could say the same for juelz and especially AZ.....if its about mostly quality and u makin it for the nikkas it should be about who got the most classic quality singles and nuthin else.....from quality standpoint if that's what u takin the most stock in I can see how AZ is on the list,I think his fans do consider those classic AZ records....as for Juelz how many of his fans actually consider most of those juelz singles "classic" juelz records?....I don't think so,do nikkas still bump Oh Yes,or the whistle song....and as singles they wuz cheeks,the fact they wuz succesful wuz really the only thing saving u with that pick......on the other hand E40 fans think most of the singles I listed are classic.....and despite what u might think no he ain't goin platinum off mostly the bay,and there's never been artist in the bay who could potentially go plat off just bay support....not sure where u got that from besides bay nigggas probaly talkin shyt.....anybody that did numbers and went gold or plat from the bay go play outside of it.....don't know how u think E40's numbers can be all bay when Juelz from NY and number wise they actually have had artist go gold who really only got play for real there....10 pages and no cosign of a juelz stan should say sumthin,I at least got smbody to cosign me and I don't think he from the bay

yes, the dude thats cosigning you is indeed from the bay. sorry to break the news to you buddy.

and i dont see why youre trying to put so much stock into a cosign anyway. it doesnt mean that youre right. lol. especially with most of the clowns roaming the board these days. and i definitely wouldnt care for the cosign of a juelz stan, or somebody thats a stan of any rapper period. wheres ya head at homie?

i didnt say it wasnt about numbers. theyre taken into consideration as well. im just saying that this isnt a numbers list. and i wasnt engaging you in a numbers conversation. i made one comment about e-40's sales breakdown. and i only said that because you were trying to embellish dude's career and in denial about him being a largely regional artist - which, even the bul from the bay agrees with. in reality, youre the one constantly pushing numbers arguments in here.

im not saying that bay artists were going plat just off the bay alone, but thats where most of the sales are coming from with alot of them. i know this because its been well-documented over the years. nobody is going by hearsay. this chit is well-known. you should be proud actually. the bay has the most supportive fans in hip-hop ever.

lol. you dont know what youre talking about with new york or the east coast in general. the east coast is the complete opposite. its the least supportive market. you cant get a platinum or even gold plaque as a regional east coast artist. its not possible. please name some of these gold artists that only get luv on the east. and im not talking about albums that took years to go gold neither.

homie, i deaded your whole juelz argument pages ago. im not gonna talk in circles while you rehash silly statements.

of course e-40 has classic singles in the eyes of his fans. everybody has fans that think they have mad classics. how many classics does e-40 have in the eyes of people that arent die-hard fans, and people that arent fans of his at all?

 

[Still Benefited]

yes, the dude thats cosigning you is indeed from the bay. sorry to break the news to you buddy.

and i dont see why youre trying to put so much stock into a cosign anyway. it doesnt mean that youre right. lol. especially with most of the clowns roaming the board these days. and i definitely wouldnt care for the cosign of a juelz stan, or somebody thats a stan of any rapper period. wheres ya head at homie?

i didnt say it wasnt about numbers. theyre taken into consideration as well. im just saying that this isnt a numbers list. and i wasnt engaging you in a numbers conversation. i made one comment about e-40's sales breakdown. and i only said that because you were trying to embellish dude's career and in denial about him being a largely regional artist - which, even the bul from the bay agrees with. in reality, youre the one constantly pushing numbers arguments in here.

im not saying that bay artists were going plat just off the bay alone, but thats where most of the sales are coming from with alot of them. i know this because its been well-documented over the years. nobody is going by hearsay. this chit is well-known. you should be proud actually. the bay has the most supportive fans in hip-hop ever.

lol. you dont know what youre talking about with new york or the east coast in general. the east coast is the complete opposite. its the least supportive market. you cant get a platinum or even gold plaque as a regional east coast artist. its not possible. please name some of these gold artists that only get luv on the east. and im not talking about albums that took years to go gold neither.

homie, i deaded your whole juelz argument pages ago. im not gonna talk in circles while you rehash silly statements.

of course e-40 has classic singles in the eyes of his fans. everybody has fans that think they have mad classics. how many classics does e-40 have in the eyes of people that arent die-hard fans, and people that arent fans of his at all?

Cosignsns can't hurt he seem like a sensible poster to me....and stop it,u can't possibly think most of the sales from a platinum artist is coming from the bay,not even close....that math works for independent nikkas only who can eat very well in the bay.....but u gotta be kiddin me to think a gold or platinum bay artist is sellin majority of those albums in the bay....thing with the bay is u got people who are fans of bay area music bcuz of the sound with the heavy bass,funk sound and the game spittin and now hyphy who are not from the bay.......the bay area tag holds more weight then people give it credit for but all them sales ain't from the bay bruh....but from fans of the sound and the tradition....either way that doesn't define regional....now nikkas like JayZ with RD,Camron,AZ,them nikkas wuz local and went gold,Jada with his last album still went gold,I think big l went gold....40's name rang more bells than most of them nikkas early on as wuz the whole point of the controversy....if he wuznt gettin play outside the bay folks wouldna had to go out they way to hate on that man.

Even Jacka who is a bay staple put out a independent album that did decent but most of the sales ain't come from the bay....that's folk lore shyt possibly promoted by bay area nikkas as a pat on the back...but its obvious bullshyt...I did mine now name these bay area artist who wuz goin gold and plat that u think majority of the sales came from the bay.....yet other big name bay nikkas hot as hell in the bay couldn't sniff it or half of it in most cases


Casual fans may not think most of those e40 songs is classic outside of Tell Me When to Go and U and That.........but they damn sure don't think them Juelz songs is either and probaly wouldn't even know what the hell u talkin about if u bought up them songs....say Whistle Song and they gon say "Ying Yang twins?"....now ask about U and Dat Booty,ask about Tell Me when to go....and don't say the name of the artist and see who can identify the person behind the songs.....most people can tell u them e40 songs.....when's the last time u heard Whistle Song or Oh Yes on your radio stations coli...get in here,stand up....time to end this argument....when they come in here and bogard u with cosigns u might have to change shyt up,if u really "do it for the nikkas"...get in here yall

 

[mobbinfms]

Cosignsns can't hurt he seem like a sensible poster to me....and stop it,u can't possibly think most of the sales from a platinum artist is coming from the bay,not even close....that math works for independent nikkas only who can eat very well in the bay.....but u gotta be kiddin me to think a gold or platinum bay artist is sellin majority of those albums in the bay....thing with the bay is u got people who are fans of bay area music bcuz of the sound with the heavy bass,funk sound and the game spittin and now hyphy who are not from the bay.......the bay area tag holds more weight then people give it credit for but all them sales ain't from the bay bruh....but from fans of the sound and the tradition....either way that doesn't define regional....now nikkas like JayZ with RD,Camron,AZ,them nikkas wuz local and went gold,Jada with his last album still went gold,I think big l went gold....40's name rang more bells than most of them nikkas early on as wuz the whole point of the controversy....if he wuznt gettin play outside the bay folks wouldna had to go out they way to hate on that man.

Even Jacka who is a bay staple put out a independent album that did decent but most of the sales ain't come from the bay....that's folk lore shyt possibly promoted by bay area nikkas as a pat on the back...but its obvious bullshyt...I did mine now name these bay area artist who wuz goin gold and plat that u think majority of the sales came from the bay.....yet other big name bay nikkas hot as hell in the bay couldn't sniff it or half of it in most cases


Casual fans may not think most of those e40 songs is classic outside of Tell Me When to Go and U and That.........but they damn sure don't think them Juelz songs is either and probaly wouldn't even know what the hell u talkin about if u bought up them songs....say Whistle Song and they gon say "Ying Yang twins?"....now ask about U and Dat Booty,ask about Tell Me when to go....and don't say the name of the artist and see who can identify the person behind the songs.....most people can tell u them e40 songs.....when's the last time u heard Whistle Song or Oh Yes on your radio stations coli...get in here,stand up....time to end this argument....when they come in here and bogard u with cosigns u might have to change shyt up,if u really "do it for the nikkas"...get in here yall

As the "cosigner" let me jump in here

At the end of the day - it's Wacky's list. I applaud him for taking the time and effort to make it. Obviously, when judging things like "quality" and "impact" his subjective opinions are going to play a critical role.

If I were to do a list, or if @StillNotSoft were to do a list - 40 would be on there and Too $hort would be higher. Juelz wouldn't be on there (and at least for me) neither would Jim Jones.

We need to do a better job of defining the term "regional". Back in the early 90s hip-hop was mostly regional in that you could get all day air play from your local radio station but be ignored everywhere else. There were also distinctive sounds associated with different regions. At this point - the radio is largely identical nationwide and certain regions have lost their identity (NY is a prime example).

The Bay does still have a distinct sound (I'm basing this off listening to the latest E-40/Too $hort album - which sounds drastically different from everything else on the radio).

@StillNotSoft - I gotta disagree with you about Jay, Cam and AZ being regional artists when their first albums dropped. But then again - maybe we're using the term differently? I do agree with you that nationwide - most fans of the music would be able to identify E-40's singles over Juelz. That's just my opinion.

You also gotta wonder to what extent young fans nowadays are still rooting for their home teams?