I never knew clifford had tv shows back in 05-07lol. he didnt pass no dam torch. first of all, none of these rappers discussed in this thread are icons. and tip for dam sure was NOWHERE NEAR icon status in '04-05. the bottom line is that jeezy came out and passed his @$$. not just in the streets, but in the mainstream as well. tip didnt get his memorable moments until 2006.
lol @ jeezy reaching just the hood as if he doesnt have a huge following outside the hood. as if he wasnt always an easier sell than tip. the only album that was an easy sell for tip was "king". everything else had to be pushed to the moon and/or he had to pander towards the mainstream crowds. and usually the results were still under-whelming. jeezy, on the other hand, didnt have to do any of that. he kept it street and crossed over anyway. it was to the point where you had hulk hogan name-droppin jeezy on vh1.
lol @ ross & jeezy not being big in the streets anymore. this is ridiculous. i cant even argue with somebody like you man. seriously. im not even trying to chit on you or nothing. thats why im not going in deep and answering the little "questions" that some of yall are throwing at me on some snide chit. i had to style on yall a lil bit cuz yall in here trying to show out. but other than that, im not trying to talk down on people man. just fallback. youre too green to be arguing with me.
homie, i dont care how old you are or claim to be. all that matter is everytime i see you post, i envision a teenager.
chief keef has no movement. and youve already shown in your rebuttal that you really dont know what a movement is.
yes, having multiple high-profile legal situations is priceless promotion if you know the game. that gets you a bigger buzz than making a bunch of appearances on 106th & park, as long as the label does its part and swings the situation properly. i mean, this dude tip even got HIS OWN tv show off the strength of that chit. now if tip was on a chitty label, had publicists that werent on their job, etc.....then you would have a point.
you dudes sit around and talk about pac on here all the time and you dont even realize that his first super-successful album was released when he was sitting in prison. and he didnt promote the album himself AT ALL. wasnt even in his own videos.
who cares who the bigger household name is? arguments like this is how i know that yall not official like that.jeezy not even trying to be a household name. that homeboy just raps. if he did a bunch of pandering to the mainstream, had the media on his side like tip, and had an acting career, then he would be bigger in that area too. and whats crazy is that most of the people that know tip, that really dont follow rap, tend to know who jeezy is as well.
lol @ yo gotti & waka flocka. theyre a couple backwoodz rappers that were never gonna get far. waka aint even a rapper. hes a club chant artist.
thanks for contradicting yourself and proving my point with more excuses
i was speaking on their entire careers.
That's what you call underwhelming?? SMH..
@ me being a jeezy stan. i dont even listen to homeboy like that. i just dont like revisionist history by little pansies such as yourself.