T.I. Discography >>> Jeezy >> Ross

[SubLyminalz]

i didnt answer your question because is f**kin dumb.

hip-hop lost man.

people want to know why hip-hop is so dry now, alot of people need to look no further than the mirror.

 

[LucaBrasi]

If Threadstarter was black he wouldn't discredit Jeezy as much.. any nikka can relate to Jeezy songs, while this cornball T.I. had 2 good albums and never really talking bout shxt

 

[Black_Jesus]

i couldnt even bare to read your whole post. you mentioning dmx? dmx never pandered to no f**kin mainstream.

tip has made blatant commercial records before a "paper trail" was even thought of. im not talking about just pop records. lol.

i cant be bothered with this nonsense anymore. you dont know anything about anything, and its my fault for lowering myself to even acknowledge you.

im done. go ahead and have the last word.

Every point you've tried to make has been shytted on...Your only comeback is " bu bu but T.I. had songs that were mainstream before Papertrail"

What I said was, T.I. didn't start PANDERING to the mainstream until Papertrail..

There's a difference between a nikka rapping about pulling a bytch or "Hey lets get a room on the other side of town and fukk" AND "You can have whatever you like"... By the PT abum T.I. was obviously whoring himself making songs that would attract the biggest target market which were women... Now that's pandering. Which is different from simply being mainstream... All mainstream means is that you're famous worldwide.. It doesn't make you less hip hop... You ignorant ass nikkas seem to believe that if you rap about anything other than the streets, you're just trying to be commercial.. Never mind the fact that you could be getting older, wiser, and simply evolving as an artist.

I mentioned nikkas like 50 and DMX, because those guys were mainstream at the beginning of their careers... But that don't mean they were pandering or whoring themselves by making songs outside their lanes to attract a bigger market.. Lil Wayne for example is whoring himself out to the skater/hipster crowd.. That's pandering nikka.

But lets be clear... T.I. created the Atlanta trap rapper.. He was the foundation for nikkas like Jeezy OJ Gucci Shawty LO. Future Titty Boi... T.I.P. introduced The term "trapping" to the masses..

Jeezy sound is too stale.. He's recreating the same old songs over and over again..Jeezy was never the most creative or anything. He just found a sound that worked and when that sound died he didn't move on NOT because some bullshyt idea that he doesn't want to be commercial, Its because he just isn't talented enough to..

 

[Black_Jesus]

what type of stupid ass logic is this, isn't being a commercial rapper the bigger artist?


jeezy and hip hop in the same sentence


by your logic nas and styles p are bigger than camel.

The sad thing about these ignorant ass nikkas logic is that the trap rapper has been commercialized gimmick for the past few years.. Sad they can't see it and they're still living in 2005

 

[28 Gramz]

But lets be clear... T.I. created the Atlanta trap rapper.. He was the foundation for nikkas like Jeezy OJ Gucci Shawty LO. Future Titty Boi... T.I.P. introduced The term "trapping" to the masses..

Jeezy sound is too stale.. He's recreating the same old songs over and over again..Jeezy was never the most creative or anything. He just found a sound that worked and when that sound died he didn't move on NOT because some bullshyt idea that he doesn't want to be commercial, Its because he just isn't talented enough to..

TI wasn't the first ATL dopeboy rapper, Ghetto Mafia,Coolbreeze and Youngbloodz were all rappin about sellin dope and usin the word "trap" before TI hit the scene. Jeezy (and Shawty Red) founded the actual sub genre of "Trap Rap" in 2004-5 with Streetz Iz Watchin and stamped it with the Trap Or Die movement. After that shyt dropped every southern rapper became a dope kingpin rappin about 100 bricks over Shawty Red type beats, usin a slow flow and puttin emphasis on ad-libs, everybody was wantin to be like Jeezy back then, TI not so much.

And to say Jeezy didn't move on is just have you even heard 103? FAME,This Ones For You,Leave You Alone,Trapped etc..shyt sounds nothing like his early work and he's still close to platinum while the dudes that emulate his old sound are barely gonna see gold if that, so whatever Jeezy is doing he's doin it better than Tip's ass right now.

 

[JustCKing]

TI wasn't the first ATL dopeboy rapper, Ghetto Mafia,Coolbreeze and Youngbloodz were all rappin about sellin dope and usin the word "trap" before TI hit the scene. Jeezy (and Shawty Red) founded the actual sub genre of "Trap Rap" in 2004-5 with Streetz Iz Watchin and stamped it with the Trap Or Die movement. After that shyt dropped every southern rapper became a dope kingpin rappin about 100 bricks over Shawty Red type beats, usin a slow flow and puttin emphasis on ad-libs, everybody was wantin to be like Jeezy back then, TI not so much.

And to say Jeezy didn't move on is just have you even heard 103? FAME,This Ones For You,Leave You Alone,Trapped etc..shyt sounds nothing like his early work and he's still close to platinum while the dudes that emulate his old sound are barely gonna see gold if that, so whatever Jeezy is doing he's doin it better than Tip's ass right now.

How did Jeezy/Shawty Redd found anything when artists have referenced "the trap" since Goodie Mob's Soul Food. The sound has been around since UGK and Master P circa '96. Master P's "Bout It, Bout It", "Break Em Off Somethin" form the foundations to the sound bed that DJ Toomp (in Toomp's own words) created for T.I.'s "Dope Boyz" which was pretty much a "trap anthem" when Jeezy was still Lil' J. T.I. popularized the term and actual sub-genre w/ Trap Muzik in 2003 before people were even knew Jeezy. The Shawty Redd brand of "trap" beats can be traced back to DJ Paul & Juicy J. How again did Jeezy found anything?

Jeezy isn't close to platinum, he's still 370K away from platinum. No Mercy is around the same mark. If T.I. (who is featured on Jeezy's "F.A.M.E.) is , what does that make Jeezy?

 

[The G.O.D II]

Lets look at it

T.I.-Everything he has dropped outside Trap Musik and UL has been average(King, PT) to fukking garbage( TI. vs T.I.P, No Mercy)

Jeezy- Mixed bag. Hes dropped two classics (TM 101, Recession) an average album (TM 102) and a brick (TM 103)

Ross- Has dropped consistent heat with the only average joint being his debut. Everything from Trilla to GFID still gets rotation


Easily Ross :Young Sabo:

 

[Black_Jesus]

TI wasn't the first ATL dopeboy rapper, Ghetto Mafia,Coolbreeze and Youngbloodz were all rappin about sellin dope and usin the word "trap" before TI hit the scene. Jeezy (and Shawty Red) founded the actual sub genre of "Trap Rap" in 2004-5 with Streetz Iz Watchin and stamped it with the Trap Or Die movement. After that shyt dropped every southern rapper became a dope kingpin rappin about 100 bricks over Shawty Red type beats, usin a slow flow and puttin emphasis on ad-libs, everybody was wantin to be like Jeezy back then, TI not so much.

And to say Jeezy didn't move on is just have you even heard 103? FAME,This Ones For You,Leave You Alone,Trapped etc..shyt sounds nothing like his early work and he's still close to platinum while the dudes that emulate his old sound are barely gonna see gold if that, so whatever Jeezy is doing he's doin it better than Tip's ass right now.

I never said he was the first artist to talk about selling drugs... And I never said he was the first to say the word Trap...How can you sit there and say Jeezy founded shyt after T.I popularized trap rapping with I'm Serious, In Damn Streets mixtape series, and Trap Muzik
With Trap anthems like
[
AND

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.
and on classic bangaz with Killa Mike like this



I could go on... Jeezy trying to coin anything trap related from Atlanta got to be a fukking joke... T.I.P had the streets on smash in ATL for bout 4 years before you knew what the fukk a Jeezy was...

Jeezy dropped with that simple kindergarden flow and basic ass lyrical content.. That's why it was so easy to mimic

Ghettomafia, Youngbloods, and Coolbreeze, weren't dopeboy rappers.. Nice try though

 

[eastside313]

TI was talkin that imma dope boy talk but Jeezy came in and crushed the buildings and took tips 2 lane highway and turned it into a I-75. Jeezy had the last true street movement that well probably ever see in hip hop.

 

[Black_Jesus]

TI was talkin that imma dope boy talk but Jeezy came in and crushed the buildings and took tips 2 lane highway and turned it into a I-75. Jeezy had the last true street movement that well probably ever see in hip hop.

That's nice, but by the time Jeezy came through, the buildings he crushed were vacants... TIP was evolving as an artist, and was simply on another level.. The rest of the south wsd Crunked out at the time... All Jeezy did was basically fill an empty void... Gucci, on the other hand, came through and pretty much shat on Jeezy's movement... Only thing that held him back was his dumb ass couldn't stay outa jail... The nikka Jeezy had to promote 103 for 2 years just to get enough buzz to have a release date, and the nikka still ain't went gold yet EDIT take that back... as of this month he's standing around 600k albums sold Im America

 

[Still Benefited]

I never said he was the first artist to talk about selling drugs... And I never said he was the first to say the word Trap...How can you sit there and say Jeezy founded shyt after T.I popularized trap rapping with I'm Serious, In Damn Streets mixtape series, and Trap Muzik
With Trap anthems like
["Dope Boyz" by T.I. - YouTube
AND

T.I. & PSC - Dope Boy Fresh [Video] - YouTube
.
and on classic bangaz with Killa Mike like this

Killer Mike Feat Bun B,T.I.,BoneCrusher - Reakshon(Excellent Quality)- YouTube

I could go on... Jeezy trying to coin anything trap related from Atlanta got to be a fukking joke... T.I.P had the streets on smash in ATL for bout 4 years before you knew what the fukk a Jeezy was...

Jeezy dropped with that simple kindergarden flow and basic ass lyrical content.. That's why it was so easy to mimic



Ghettomafia, Youngbloods, and Coolbreeze, weren't dopeboy rappers.. Nice try though

Nah Jeezy changed the entire sound of the south....nikkas ain't wanna spit over those bouncy azz beats no more and just be regular nikkas/dopeboys....it wuz like across the nation nikkas had to be drug kingpins and rap over those dark beats with the heavy bass on that Shawty Redd shyt...u had Lil Scrappy with "No Problems" that sounded like a Jeezy record which I believe came before Jeezy...but when Jeezy blew like he did with the sound it took over the nation.....I don't even remember the term trap rapper before Jeezy.....obviously u had nikkas that rhymed about pushin long before Jeezy....I consider E40 the original just off the detail he broke the dope game down with....but it got so bad after Jeezy u had to put dudes in the category of trap rap...bcuz really all they did wuz rap about bricks lol.


TI has a lot more substance to him than bricks...he might rap for the dopeboyz but he doesn't beat you over the head with it and has a lot more substance.....he's more of a throwback to the UGK,E-40,Richie Rich,8ball MJG....and I don't think those dudes should be or would be put in the box of "trap rappers"

 

[ManBearPig]

Rick Ross wins

 

[eastside313]

That's nice, but by the time Jeezy came through, the buildings he crushed were vacants... TIP was evolving as an artist, and was simply on another level.. The rest of the south wsd Crunked out at the time... All Jeezy did was basically fill an empty void... Gucci, on the other hand, came through and pretty much shat on Jeezy's movement... Only thing that held him back was his dumb ass couldn't stay outa jail... The nikka Jeezy had to promote 103 for 2 years just to get enough buzz to have a release date, and the nikka still ain't went gold yet EDIT take that back... as of this month he's standing around 600k albums sold Im America

I see why cats in here saying they finish talkin to you.

 

[SubLyminalz]

I see why cats in here saying they finish talkin to you.

says one of the biggest jeezy stanboys on this site

 

[CM_Burns]

There's no way I'm playing a TI album over a Ross album voluntarily in 2012, I could go the rest of my life without hearing Paper Trail or King again. A lot of his shyt didn't age well. Ross already has the best catalog of these 3.