T.I. Discography >>> Jeezy >> Ross

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
:heh: Since when is UL a classic album? classic songs, yes..but that album as a whole was hit or miss. Paper Trail wasn't that good either, I still don't see what people see that shyt. And yeah nikkas flocked to Gucci and even Ross but Jeezy is the only trap rapper to ever continusly go platinum WITHOUT compromising his style and selling out, that's one of the reasons his fanbase is so strong and can still sell over 700k without any hit singles while Tip has just been :flabbynsick: for the past 2 years.

Brah you sound silly as fukk calling a nikka with a 10+ year 7 album deep career span :flabbynsick:... not even counting the time period when he was locked down...

And you're wrong... as soon as Jeezy started veering away from the trapper persona trying to be political his sales dropped... Blame it on the recession (pun intended).. He tried to hop back in trap mode.. but it was too late.. most of his fan base flocked to Gucci and Rause...

At the end of the day nikkas is tryingng to change the topic from who had the best discography to who was popular this year vs that year and that shyt is weak... Any other type of hip-hop category Tip> Jeezy... The only category that's unprovable is popularity. Hell, a nikka can argue Soulja Boy was more popular than them all 05-06
 

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I peeped how Homeboy went in full stan mode to defend Jeezy, but never answered anyone's questions.

But yea though, the hate Urban Legend receives is ridiculous, it was a great album. Paper Trail as well, though that album cemented his status as a pop crossover act (Whatever You Like, Live Your Life)
 

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I agree but how could you not include this banger?:wtf:

 
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jeezy still getting snubbed. his own label been sabotaging him for years now.

i dont care how much tip sold. he better be outselling jeezy with all the spotlight that he gets. and being in jail is the best promotion homie. dont get it twisted.

BUT 103 IS WAY MORE RELEVANT THAN WHATEVER THE NAME OF TIP'S LAST ALBUM WAS.

lol @ chief keef.:laugh:

Why would Def Jam sabotage their own artist?

LOL @ being in jail being the best promotion.

103 should be more relevant as it has been out for 8-9 months while No Mercy is nearly two years old.
 

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you keep making up excuses after i already proved my point yet your still trying to argue and still havent answered my question, if having more hits, being in major movie releases, and selling more records dosent mean he is bigger than what does?


103 was obviously more relavent the point i was making is that his last album sold just as much maybe even more than 103 with no promotion 1 single which flopped, 103 dropped the week of christmas :childplease:

and 3 hunna/gbe is one of the more pupular movements out right now, keef has 2 nikkas affiliated with him signed to the same label as jeezy.

no homie, you proved MY point.

if we're talking about who had a bigger mainstream career, then you could argue in favor of tip. i thought we were on a hip-hop board tho. i didnt know i was talking to a bunch of skirts. was hammer bigger than rakim?

the controversy surrounding tip going to jail >>>>> anything tip wouldve did to promote his album

the whole point of promoting your album is to get people talking. going to prison, especially the way he did is billion dollar promotion as long as the story gets out and your album is made known to the public. and those grounds were covered so.........

and lol @ this chief keef chit. you young pups dont even know what a movement is. that term has been abused for the past 8 or so years now, and needs to be retired PRONTO. there are no movements right now. the only thing close to such is MMG. just cuz you got a lil crew and yall are getting deals, it doesnt make you a movement. LOL.
 

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In terms of quality, Trap Muzik is the best album among the three with Deeper Than Rap coming in second. Jeezy's first three albums are dope, but I see TM101 the same way I view Master P's Ghetto D. Both albums are hood/street classics, but does it really hold up to an album like Face's Untouchable. Untouchable sold less and is one of Face's more slept on releases, but lyrically, stylistically, and musically offered more than Ghetto D while Ghetto D sold more and got more love from the streets/hood.

this doesnt even make sense. just say you like untouchable more than ghetto d and keep it moving.

ghetto d was bigger in the streets as well as commercially without selling out......so what else does that leave but your personal opinion that has nothing to do with the topic anyway?:usure:

I peeped how Homeboy went in full stan mode to defend Jeezy, but never answered anyone's questions.

But yea though, the hate Urban Legend receives is ridiculous, it was a great album. Paper Trail as well, though that album cemented his status as a pop crossover act (Whatever You Like, Live Your Life)

i dont even own a retail copy of any jeezy album so save all the stan mode talk.

all i see is a bunch of young pups & house-boys in here rewriting history and trying to tell me what happened as if i wasnt out here living it.

so when they come at me with smug "questions", presenting them in a disrespectful manner, of course im gonna toss that chit out the window. what i look like? a sissy?

and i answered them in my own way. keep up.

You're just stanning right now HARD.... snowman movement > Tip's career?? :comeon::usure: :stopitslime: :nikkaplease: I'm a fan of Jeezy and I respect his movement, but you should be smacked on sight for that comment.... At the end of the day.. Jeezy is and was nothing more than a one dimensional trap rapper... He was just something fresh and new back in 05 with amazing production and was cosigned by BMF.. Look how quickly nikkas flocked to Gucci... That nikka Jeezy still salty bout that.. Tried to have the nikka off'd and everything LOL...

TI dropped 3 back to back classics TM, UL(very suprised no one mentions this album) and King.. Then he dropped Papertrail:ooh:.... Brah you losing touch wit reality

:comeon:

gucci surpassed jeezy down south, yes. but he ran a lap around tip's @$$. so i dont see the point in bringing gucci up. he was more popular than everybody.

im stanning but youre in here saying tip dropped 3 classic albums.

be clear, none of these rappers has a classic album under their belt. and lol @ "urban legend" being considered for anything.
 

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this doesnt even make sense. just say you like untouchable more than ghetto d and keep it moving.

ghetto d was bigger in the streets as well as commercially without selling out......so what else does that leave but your personal opinion that has nothing to do with the topic anyway?:usure:



i dont even own a retail copy of any jeezy album so save all the stan mode talk.

all i see is a bunch of young pups & house-boys in here rewriting history and trying to tell me what happened as if i wasnt out here living it.

so when they come at me with smug "questions", presenting them in a disrespectful manner, of course im gonna toss that chit out the window. what i look like? a sissy?

and i answered them in my own way. keep up.



:comeon:

gucci surpassed jeezy down south, yes. but he ran a lap around tip's @$$. so i dont see the point in bringing gucci up. he was more popular than everybody.

im stanning but youre in here saying tip dropped 3 classic albums.

be clear, none of these rappers has a classic album under their belt. and lol @ "urban legend" being considered for anything.

Put it to you this way:

TM 101 is like Ghetto D in terms of the acclaim both received from the streets. It also had a more gritty dirty south sound like Ghetto D.

Deeper Than Rap, and to a lesser extent, Trap Muzik are more along the lines of Untouchable. Deeper Than Rap are more mafiosos themed album lyrically, musically, and stylistically.

Some would argue Untouchable is better than Ghetto D because the sound is more diverse and Scarface was more lyrical than P was on Ghetto D. Ghetto D was the more popular album like TM101 was more popular than Trap Muzik and Deeper Than Rap.

That is the comparison that I was making. Which album I liked better is beside the point.
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
this doesnt even make sense. just say you like untouchable more than ghetto d and keep it moving.

ghetto d was bigger in the streets as well as commercially without selling out......so what else does that leave but your personal opinion that has nothing to do with the topic anyway?:usure:



i dont even own a retail copy of any jeezy album so save all the stan mode talk.

all i see is a bunch of young pups & house-boys in here rewriting history and trying to tell me what happened as if i wasnt out here living it.

so when they come at me with smug "questions", presenting them in a disrespectful manner, of course im gonna toss that chit out the window. what i look like? a sissy?

and i answered them in my own way. keep up.



:comeon:

gucci surpassed jeezy down south, yes. but he ran a lap around tip's @$$. so i dont see the point in bringing gucci up. he was more popular than everybody.

im stanning but youre in here saying tip dropped 3 classic albums.

be clear, none of these rappers has a classic album under their belt. and lol @ "urban legend" being considered for anything.

Okay Mr "hey I'm from the streets" :heh:

The "streets" is a what have you done for me lately type crowd... T.I. had it during the Trap Music/In da Streets series/PSC days .. When Jeezy came through T.I. was already on his way to an iconic level.. He was reaching more than just the hood.. Hip hop heads everywhere were paying attention. TIP pretty much passed the torch.. There was never a point where there careers were parallel.. Everything Jeezy had done T.I. did before him.... Then the Jeezy hype died a bit and Gucci and Ross blew... Now even these nikkas ain't big in the streets no more.. Now its cats like Waka, future, and Alley, 2chains etc
 

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no homie, you proved MY point.

if we're talking about who had a bigger mainstream career, then you could argue in favor of tip. i thought we were on a hip-hop board tho. i didnt know i was talking to a bunch of skirts. was hammer bigger than rakim?

the controversy surrounding tip going to jail >>>>> anything tip wouldve did to promote his album

the whole point of promoting your album is to get people talking. going to prison, especially the way he did is billion dollar promotion as long as the story gets out and your album is made known to the public. and those grounds were covered so.........

and lol @ this chief keef chit. you young pups dont even know what a movement is. that term has been abused for the past 8 or so years now, and needs to be retired PRONTO. there are no movements right now. the only thing close to such is MMG. just cuz you got a lil crew and yall are getting deals, it doesnt make you a movement. LOL.
this dude is still making excuses :heh:

clifford was a superstar before he even went to jail and way before he got caught with call of duty burners, u really keep bringing up that jail shyt tho :snoop: that's not promotion.


clifford was a household name at one point, jeezy was never in that status, u keep bringing up all this hood talk but the hood don't support there favorite rappers, ask gucci, flocka, and gotti.

I'm 24 years old and keef def has a growing movement right now I'm not saying its huge at the moment but them nikkas are buzzing right now heavy, kill me with that young pup bullshyt.
 

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Okay Mr "hey I'm from the streets" :heh:

The "streets" is a what have you done for me lately type crowd... T.I. had it during the Trap Music/In da Streets series/PSC days .. When Jeezy came through T.I. was already on his way to an iconic level.. He was reaching more than just the hood.. Hip hop heads everywhere were paying attention. TIP pretty much passed the torch.. There was never a point where there careers were parallel.. Everything Jeezy had done T.I. did before him.... Then the Jeezy hype died a bit and Gucci and Ross blew... Now even these nikkas ain't big in the streets no more.. Now its cats like Waka, future, and Alley, 2chains etc

lol. he didnt pass no dam torch. first of all, none of these rappers discussed in this thread are icons. and tip for dam sure was NOWHERE NEAR icon status in '04-05. the bottom line is that jeezy came out and passed his @$$. not just in the streets, but in the mainstream as well. tip didnt get his memorable moments until 2006.

lol @ jeezy reaching just the hood as if he doesnt have a huge following outside the hood. as if he wasnt always an easier sell than tip. the only album that was an easy sell for tip was "king". everything else had to be pushed to the moon and/or he had to pander towards the mainstream crowds. and usually the results were still under-whelming. jeezy, on the other hand, didnt have to do any of that. he kept it street and crossed over anyway. it was to the point where you had hulk hogan name-droppin jeezy on vh1.

lol @ ross & jeezy not being big in the streets anymore. this is ridiculous. i cant even argue with somebody like you man. seriously. im not even trying to chit on you or nothing. thats why im not going in deep and answering the little "questions" that some of yall are throwing at me on some snide chit. i had to style on yall a lil bit cuz yall in here trying to show out. but other than that, im not trying to talk down on people man. just fallback. youre too green to be arguing with me.

this dude is still making excuses :heh:

clifford was a superstar before he even went to jail and way before he got caught with call of duty burners, u really keep bringing up that jail shyt tho :snoop: that's not promotion.


clifford was a household name at one point, jeezy was never in that status, u keep bringing up all this hood talk but the hood don't support there favorite rappers, ask gucci, flocka, and gotti.

I'm 24 years old and keef def has a growing movement right now I'm not saying its huge at the moment but them nikkas are buzzing right now heavy, kill me with that young pup bullshyt.

homie, i dont care how old you are or claim to be. all that matter is everytime i see you post, i envision a teenager.

chief keef has no movement. and youve already shown in your rebuttal that you really dont know what a movement is.

yes, having multiple high-profile legal situations is priceless promotion if you know the game. that gets you a bigger buzz than making a bunch of appearances on 106th & park, as long as the label does its part and swings the situation properly. i mean, this dude tip even got HIS OWN tv show off the strength of that chit. now if tip was on a chitty label, had publicists that werent on their job, etc.....then you would have a point.

you dudes sit around and talk about pac on here all the time and you dont even realize that his first super-successful album was released when he was sitting in prison. and he didnt promote the album himself AT ALL. wasnt even in his own videos.

who cares who the bigger household name is? arguments like this is how i know that yall not official like that.:laugh: jeezy not even trying to be a household name. that homeboy just raps. if he did a bunch of pandering to the mainstream, had the media on his side like tip, and had an acting career, then he would be bigger in that area too. and whats crazy is that most of the people that know tip, that really dont follow rap, tend to know who jeezy is as well.:laugh: vanilla ice was a bigger household name than kool g. rap. i guess vanilla ice had dudey beat, right?

lol @ yo gotti & waka flocka. theyre a couple backwoodz rappers that were never gonna get far. waka aint even a rapper. hes a club chant artist.
 

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Then the Jeezy hype died a bit and Gucci and Ross blew... Now even these nikkas ain't big in the streets no more.. Now its cats like Waka, future, and Alley, 2chains etc

:shaq2:

Waka and Alleyboy are nowhere near as big as Gucci and Ross in any way, especially in the urban/hood mixtape market. The top 5 rappers you'll hear gettin play down here is 2 Chainz,Future,Ross,Jeezy and Gucci. Waka got club shyt but really nikkas don't be bumpin his music like that, Alley is a local act and not even poppin in his own city.
 

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:whoo: i skipped over the part where he said gucci aint big in the streets no more.....down south at least.

ross & jeezy are as big as it gets in 2012. meek millie is about to join them.
 
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