T.I vs Jeezy vs Gucci vs Future..whose had the best run?

Whose had the best run?

  • TIP

  • Jeezy

  • Gucci

  • Future


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You forgot one person who had the same run as these guys and even more

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TI

was waaay better than that guy

and Jeezy is too although I only fukk with maybe half of his material

I like some of Future's new stuff but overall he's arguably on that level

the other guy I wont mention..I know he has fans...... I'm not one of them
 

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You don't read much do you..


this guy repeats back all the insults i say to him.

like i aint teach him that chit.

with that said, my plan is already on the road to fruition.:myman:


:salute:

People are in here :cape:and re-writing history left and right to put Jeezy on T.I.'s level.


no revisionist history involved.

yall just too commercial.

its cool. im in the midst of getting you out of that.
 

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this guy repeats back all the insults i say to him.

like i aint teach him that chit.

with that said, my plan is already on the road to fruition.:myman:





no revisionist history involved.

yall just too commercial.

its cool. im in the midst of getting you out of that.

There's nothing commercial about it. Revisionist history is saying Jeezy ushered in trap when he didn't. That's erasing what rappers in the A, most of whom weren't commercial i.e. Ghetto Mafia were doing before any of you knew who Jeezy was. Revisionist history is to front like Jeezy introduced trap to the mainstream when T.I. had released Trap Muzik back when Jeezy was still Lil' J. That's not even considering the switch from the style of music Jeezy was doing before T.I. dropped and how he sounded after.
 

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This isn't a subjective opinion, it's a fact that Trap or Die, a mixtape is held in higher esteem then all of T.I's albums within the culture. You're conflating cross over success and this Hiphop shyt. If this was 95 you'd be telling me Coolio's joint>Me against the world.

It is subjective. Trap Muzik is at the very least a Southern classic within the culture, which paved the way for a mixtape like Trap or Die. Trap Muzik isn't even crossover, so I don't even know what you're getting at with that.

LOL @ using a Coolio/Pac comparison. That's absurd because even commercially in 1995, I only remember Coolio's "Gangsta Paradise" being big while Pac had "Dear Mama", "So Many Tears" and the title track and this all from memory. I'm not even sure if you could even put Coolio on the radar especially since Biggie was also killing that year and even Bone who had an EP, but "Thuggish Ruggish" and "For The Love of Money" were everywhere.
 

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There's nothing commercial about it. Revisionist history is saying Jeezy ushered in trap when he didn't. That's erasing what rappers in the A, most of whom weren't commercial i.e. Ghetto Mafia were doing before any of you knew who Jeezy was. Revisionist history is to front like Jeezy introduced trap to the mainstream when T.I. had released Trap Muzik back when Jeezy was still Lil' J. That's not even considering the switch from the style of music Jeezy was doing before T.I. dropped and how he sounded after.


you don't get it breh.

same problem we're having in the other thread.


It is subjective. Trap Muzik is at the very least a Southern classic within the culture, which paved the way for a mixtape like Trap or Die. Trap Muzik isn't even crossover, so I don't even know what you're getting at with that.

LOL @ using a Coolio/Pac comparison. That's absurd because even commercially in 1995, I only remember Coolio's "Gangsta Paradise" being big while Pac had "Dear Mama", "So Many Tears" and the title track and this all from memory. I'm not even sure if you could even put Coolio on the radar especially since Biggie was also killing that year and even Bone who had an EP, but "Thuggish Ruggish" and "For The Love of Money" were everywhere.


coolio was bigger than all of them commercially at the time.

and he had a long string of hits dating back to the previous album.
 

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gucci

and whats funny he didnt even know he was runnin..

ti n jeezy nem had expectations..

gucci did all his shyt on his own..didnt care what happen.either u luv em or hate em...

gucci had the streets even when the walls was stacked up against em
 

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jeezy's run takes a complete chit on TIP's.

last movement in hip-hop.

jeezy easily.





the album was already out.

matter fact, when they arrested him at the venue of the hip-hop awards, he was supposed to premier his 3rd single that night.(hell, it mightve been the 4th).

this is why i always say, those prison runs were the best things to happen to tip's career after '06. especially this one, because it made people forget about the trash album that he had already dropped.


jeezy run was that of an industry plant..everything about it was cuttthroat..then when the very regime he was runnin around representin..he denounced em all....n they were the sole reason for his existance

gucci didnt take none of the blackballin shyt jeezy did to stop em.,..like it did jody breeze..the street shyt jeezy thru at gucci didnt stop em..

he held his ground..n held his own..against not only jeezy n his tactics..but ti's as well

not too mention the rappers who came from under guccis umbrella..stood longer than anybody that came from under ti or jeezy together...
 

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I don't even see how TI isn't the obvious choice. TI sold more records for one, he went gold in a week twice, and birthed their styles. Gucci has classic songs and Trap House was a regional classic but he shouldn't even be mentioned with TI and Jeezy.
 

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The Houston Movement is far more of a movement than a Snowman T shirt getting banned from high schools especially in regard to music. Having an impact =/= having a movement. A movement is more of a ripple effect. One small ripple growing to become something bigger. "Still Tippin" was just one song that ballooned into Houston taking over.

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Lets not forget to give Lil Flips success its proper credit as far as Houston having a movement....,thats kindve just what happens when a artist from a particular city or region blows,especially back in the day...I do see Wackys point in the sense of how many of them nikkas actually stuck and had everybody fukkin with them?It may have been moreso a lot of Houson nikkas getting chances due to Lil Flips and the overall success of the south....Kinda like when all those rappers like J Kwon and Chingy etc came out of St Louis after Nelly,i don't know if I would exactly call that a movement:jbhmm:?

Far as this question its a hard one,I still remember first hearing T.I on his single with Beanie Man after seeing the video,thinkin he was a star


....I actually bought the Im Serious album based soley on his performance on that song and the blatant arrogance shown:wow:...Only to have the numbers come back that he caught a brick:dead:

I kept putting nikkas on to him but they wouldn't listen until 24's dropped,and I finally had these nikkas attention and they was willing to listen:lupe:....And he came back with a new and improved style as a emcee that made him even betterthan I thought he was.

Its hard for me to pick because I like Jeezys catalogue better overall,but nikkas in here downplaying what T.I did like a mafuka....from Trap Muzic,Down with the King Mixtape,Urban Legend that's 3 classics right there breh....not to mention folks not mentioning T.I's run as an EMCEE,if you wanna talk about Jeezys musical ouput and the quality of majority of it,T.I need some extra credit for being one of the greatest emcees to ever bless us...Dude was killing everything he touched lyrically for a nice period of time....I listened to Urban Legend recently and realized I didn't appreciate what I was hearing as much as I luved T.I at the time,nikka was incredible:mjcry:...I think yall need to go back and listen like I did,I'm a T.I stan and realized I didn't appreciate T.I's run enough at the time.

Gave it to you from every level,as a emcee,musical quality,giving us a protégé in Dro,cockiness unmatched,and cant forget the fukkery of course:pachaha:,he was the total package,a throwback to what rappers used to be...and not only a throwback to what southern emcees but he had a piece of every region combined in one rapper,the shyt that made east coast emcees great,west coast emcees and southern emcees,he had it all:banderas:

It all kindve came to a end with King for me though,I don't know what happened,maybe went a little too commercial?the sound?or just other nikkas started releasing better music,i don't remember my reason for feeling that way but I remember things not being the same.

I might have to call a tie,i think I been saying Jeezy,but after going back over T.I catalogue recently?i cant say that as confidently
 
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I don't even see how TI isn't the obvious choice. TI sold more records for one, he went gold in a week twice, and birthed their styles. Gucci has classic songs and Trap House was a regional classic but he shouldn't even be mentioned with TI and Jeezy.

Gucci influenced this entire generation of trap rappers..he's had more impact than TI and Jeezy culturally.
 

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This isn't a subjective opinion, it's a fact that Trap or Die, a mixtape is held in higher esteem then all of T.I's albums within the culture. You're conflating cross over success and this Hiphop shyt. If this was 95 you'd be telling me Coolio's joint>Me against the world.

But you gon compare T.I's albums to Coolios:comeon:?



TI' who crossed over mustve really left a bad taste in people mouths,cuz that's all yall seem to remember:scust:....But what about T.I.P:mjcry:?nikkas really acting like T.I didn't come out the gate with street records that blew before he went to the pop records like "Live Your Life"..

24's,Be Easy,Rubber Band Man,ASAP,You Don't Know Me,What you Know,Top Back:mindblown:
 

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you don't get it breh.

same problem we're having in the other thread.





coolio was bigger than all of them commercially at the time.

and he had a long string of hits dating back to the previous album.

Explain what I'm not getting. Just because I don't agree with your warped opinion.

You do know that arguing in favor of Coolio here completely contradicts the argument against me that you just co-signed. Dude basically said that I would be saying that Coolio's album would be >>>> Me Against The World if this were '95. Did you not co-sign that statement? Now you're using the same statement to disagree with me. Then again, you don't remember or even know what you're quoting half the time because you argue for the sake of arguing.
 

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I was listening to Trap Muzik the other night and it's amazing how people on here try to slight that album. I mean, yes Trap or Die and Thug Motivation did much to expand to enhance the trap sound, but to act like Trap Muzik didn't open a lane and introduce that style to the mainstream is laughable and an uneducated opinion. It's a history re-write if there ever was one. I mean, you can't listen to "Look What I Got" and not see that it gave Jeezy the swag you hear throughout Trap or Die and Thug Motivation especially when compared to what he sounded like previously. I mean, just take some of the lines from "Look What I Got" (not only the lines themselves, but how T.I. is actually delivering them):

You best invest in some skis
I sell slopes of snow

Not even those lines alone, but also the hook.

Then you have a song like "Bezzle", which musically helped pioneer the kick drums you hear in trap beats now.
 
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