Takeoff (The Migos) Killed In Houston

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We talking about the state of rap musics effect on black culture,.. What would Lennon and Sam Cooke who both technically died before rap music have to do with this??

Because the effect that you are talking about is violence. Violence has been around since humans have existed. Our community's homicide rate was higher BEFORE Hip Hop. It was high back when Hip Hop music that wasn't violent was popular.

The homicide rates in our community are high now for reasons that have no correlation to Hip Hop music.

Why did I bring up the other artists? Because they are musicians. Is Hip Hop not a form of music? Are rappers not musicians?
 

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I never fukked with Dice for a reason…I had homies that loved playing it tho. I’ve seen too much fukkery start over dice. It brings too much tension, negative energy and uncertainty. Then you got pride and bragging on top of it? Nah….It just wasn’t my thing. I knew a dude in my town that got murdered after winning a dice game…headshot

This ain’t me blaming Takeoff at all…it seems he was an innocent bystander but fukk man….He would still be alive today if not for a pair of dice that cost 99c and some change….a lot of black men would be still here.

Leave the hood games and activities in the hood. Millionaires/Brehs that got bread shouldn’t be shooting no dice unless it’s at a crap table. I always looked at dice as a means to hustle and come up from an easy lick.

Sad shyt…rest in peace to a young legend. I’m bumping Migos all day.
 

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let's keep it funky here. hip-hop is full of toxic masculinity. that shyt needs to have been changed.
When ppl say this; what do ya'll mean?

A music genre that perpetuates the reality of living in America--usually as a black man.

We don't even have all the details yet, but, another "the culture" comes into question.

It was a private Halloween party and ppl have issues with dice--which is some party shyt.

I've seen ppl (family) mad over Monopoly. I done got hot over Uno with my cousins.

This convo is polarizing because it's so extreme.
 

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4 examples between the years of 1960 - 1990....
and 1 was domestic violence and another was a stalking, so while murders, not exactly the same thing as what happened today or weeks ago with PnB, etc. etc.

I'm the farthest thing in the world from anti-rap or pro-censorship but I feel like i'm burying my head in the sand if i were to say there isn't something short of an epidemic of violent deaths among hip-hop artists. if you don't see the correlation it's only because you don't want to and that's totally understandable, i get that impulse, honestly i do. but it's just too hard for me to ignore.

Breh, read the article. There were more than 4 examples. It was murders all across the board.

There is no epidemic of violent deaths. Do you know what an epidemic is?

And again, these people just happened to be rappers. They aren't dying because they are rappers. There is a difference.
 

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Lotta rock stars especially in the old days associated with Hell's Angels and Mobsters. Places like Studio 54, some of the most ruthless criminals were in the mix.

shyt Michael Jordan was the biggest celebrity in the world in 1993 and gambling with coke dealers.

I watched a documentary on how the hell’s angels and other biker gangs was basically security for a lot of rockstars in the 70s and they had a system of checking in. But something went sideways with them and somebody got hurt and they stopped fukking with them. I think it was something involving The Grateful Dead idk
 
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Because the effect that you are talking about is violence. Violence has been around since humans have existed. Our community's homicide rate was higher BEFORE Hip Hop. It was high back when Hip Hop music that wasn't violent was popular.

The homicide rates in our community are high now for reasons that have no correlation to Hip Hop music.

Why did I bring up the other artists? Because they are musicians. Is Hip Hop not a form of music? Are rappers not musicians?
youre saying you dont think the promotion of that culture to black youth has no affect on our psyche...
...who we believe we are as a people?

you dont see black kids in the suburbs (or good households) feeling as if they have to be connected to street shyt?
at this point its our identity

crime rates are down across the board...
...ours have not fallen the way other groups have

look at violent crime stats...
...in a lot of them black people represent up to 50% of the victims/perpetrators
 

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We don't hear about this happening in Country music because that's a whole different animal. It's a tight knit community and more often than not, the drug usage and what not isn't front and center even if it's something the artist is struggling with.

Rock stars definitely hang around that element, but there's a bunch of factors to consider:

1) Anybody can be a rapper

2) More so now than ever, people that are actually gang members and are real criminals are making music. They aren't weed carriers or bodyguards any more. They are the front and center.
anyone can be a rock singer, there's a million rock local rock bands all across america, being in a basement/garage rock band is just as common as local/novice rapper

lol @ a tight knit community, it's 2022, if their known artists were dying, it's on TMZ and social media. and we're not talking about drugs, we're talking about violence and homicide...

2 doesn't negate the fact that you can choose not to go back to or be involved with the people from the past. especially given the average gang nikka is not venturing further than their neighborhood. don't go visit other hoods trying to prove yourself (PNB rock) and don't go back to the places you frequented growing up where you may have made enemies (ie dont go hang out at the local club after a performance in your hometown). lot of excuses being made for people choosing to be stupid in how they move knowing the reality of how people operate in our hoods
 

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If its us vs them who you think gon win... :mjcry::mjcry:

this shyt dropped my heart man. i wish you were lying to me.... oh woahhhhhh
 
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