Takeover (At Least the Nas Verse) Was One of The Weakest Diss Tracks Ever

[ThaRealness]

What a bad idea

The Mobb Deep disses were actually pretty vicious. You little fukk I got money stacks bigger then you

But that Nas verse was so light.


Youre a lame

You had a bad verse on a song

You aint really live the life

he gets defensive about the Dead Presidents sample


Your music is weak

You know who did you know what with you know who

Say what you mean


Honestly thats a respectful ass diss record. He kept it music. Definitely a miscalculation. The precedent for diss tracks in 2001 was "I fukked your bytch you fat motherfukker"

 

[Bed$tuy]

Sigh

Jay z ...... nas


Nas..... jay z

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Nah he got at Nas on some more fact based shyt....i used your own words and you didn't even get paid off it. you weren't really about that street life, you just watched other ppl actually do it and tried to pass it off as your own experiences....you got outrapped on a song by your bodyguard and your weed carriers.

The problem is Jay just spit it too laidback and chill so ppl didn't really FEEL it like you want ppl to on a diss

I know Ether is classic but Nas's shyt is mostly sandbox elementary school insults....you ugly, whiskers like a rat, taebo hoe....the only real shyt he got Jay on is the fact Jigga has used too many of Biggie's rhymes and the fact that Beans at times outshined Jay on songs.

Nas just went at the diss with more fire and oomph which is why more ppl fukk with it even tho lyrically it's super light.

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

Let’s break down hit em up next

 

[ThaRealness]

Nah he got at Nas on some more fact based shyt....i used your own words and you didn't even get paid off it. you weren't really about that street life, you just watched other ppl actually do it and tried to pass it off as your own experiences....you got outrapped on a song by your bodyguard and your weed carriers.

The problem is Jay just spit it too laidback and chill so ppl didn't really FEEL it like you want ppl to on a diss

I know Ether is classic but Nas's shyt is mostly sandbox elementary school insults....you ugly, whiskers like a rat, taebo hoe....the only real shyt he got Jay on is the fact Jigga has used too many of Biggie's rhymes and the fact that Beans at times outshined Jay on songs.

Nas just went at the diss with more fire and oomph which is why more ppl fukk with it even tho lyrically it's super light.

Those arent cutting words. Clever but not the shyt that makes your soul burn slow. Jay Z shouldve known he was going to war

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Those arent cutting words. Clever but not the shyt that makes your soul burn slow. Jay Z shouldve known he was going to war

That's the prob with diss tracks....it's more about emotion than facts/reality. Nas understood that which is why he won that battle. Even tho Nas didn't really say much of consequence, the way he said it is what made people be like :

Jay tried to go that more disrespectful, charged up route with Supa Ugly but at that point it was too late. People woulda def responded to condoms on ya baby seat more than actual factual points...its human nature....people are always more ruled by emotion than logic

 

[L. Deezy]

Nah he got at Nas on some more fact based shyt....i used your own words and you didn't even get paid off it. you weren't really about that street life, you just watched other ppl actually do it and tried to pass it off as your own experiences....you got outrapped on a song by your bodyguard and your weed carriers.

The problem is Jay just spit it too laidback and chill so ppl didn't really FEEL it like you want ppl to on a diss

I know Ether is classic but Nas's shyt is mostly sandbox elementary school insults....you ugly, whiskers like a rat, taebo hoe....the only real shyt he got Jay on is the fact Jigga has used too many of Biggie's rhymes and the fact that Beans at times outshined Jay on songs.

Nas just went at the diss with more fire and oomph which is why more ppl fukk with it even tho lyrically it's super light.

clearly you have missed the 99999999 trillion times we broke down Jay so called facts.. they were opinion. Trying to say a double platinum rapper with actual bars at the time wasnt important was not fact nygga

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Nah he got at Nas on some more fact based shyt....i used your own words and you didn't even get paid off it. you weren't really about that street life, you just watched other ppl actually do it and tried to pass it off as your own experiences....you got outrapped on a song by your bodyguard and your weed carriers.

The problem is Jay just spit it too laidback and chill so ppl didn't really FEEL it like you want ppl to on a diss

I know Ether is classic but Nas's shyt is mostly sandbox elementary school insults....you ugly, whiskers like a rat, taebo hoe....the only real shyt he got Jay on is the fact Jigga has used too many of Biggie's rhymes and the fact that Beans at times outshined Jay on songs.

Nas just went at the diss with more fire and oomph which is why more ppl fukk with it even tho lyrically it's super light.

ether is a quotable diss song spit with a level of disgust anyone can appreciate.

the whole tone of the record is

don't waste your time rewriting history because all that shyt means is your soul burning slow still

Hov really thought he could lil man Nas with a few words on a mostly Prodigy diss. Got his humps amputated fukking around.

 

[ThaRealness]

That's the prob with diss tracks....it's more about emotion than facts/reality. Nas understood that which is why he won that battle. Even tho Nas didn't really say much of consequence, the way he said it is what made people be like :

Jay tried to go that more disrespectful, charged up route with Supa Ugly but at that point it was too late. People woulda def responded to condoms on ya baby seat more than actual factual points...its human nature....people are always more ruled by emotion than logic

Facts. He kept it super respectful.... That affair he had with whoever Nas was seeing.... he shoulda used that in half the verse

Even the schoolyard shyt hurts more then music. Ask Havoc about being called a midget in every diss track

 

[Cloud McFly]

If it was as weak as you’re trying to claim, cats wouldn’t have written Nas off like they did. A big part of the reason Ether was so effective is because the perception was that there was no way he could come back from Takeover.

 

[ThirdAct]

The whole Prodigy is a ballerina thing cuz he dressed like MJ as a little kid was corny as fukk

 

[Vinny Lupton]

What's weak about it? He only talked facts

Nas did fall off- before Stillmatic everyone saw him as a guy who started strong with the first 2 albums then was on a steady decline after

His Oochie Wally verse was trash

Nas was a fantasy thug rapper

MC Serch was up in Nas publishing

"keep talking and I'll tell everyone how I had sex with your bm while you were still with her"

All Nas could say was Jay Z has big lips (what's wrong with that Nas) and Jay wanted Nas on some songs

 

[get these nets]

The whole Prodigy is a ballerina thing cuz he dressed like MJ as a little kid was corny as fukk

wasn't corny went he debuted the song at Summer Jam and threw the picture on the big screen.

The word of mouth discussion about that picture was viral before viral was a term.

 

[blankstairz]

It was lazy.

Jay was really feeling himself. He thought Nas was done. He underestimated Nas completely with that diss.

Remember, Nas was at a weird point in his career at this time. Jay saw his chance and went for it. Little did he know he woke a sleeping giant.


Nobody saw Ether coming. Including Jay. He didn't expect Nas to comeback, let alone comeback that strong.

Battling was Jay's forte, not Nas'.

Nas beat Jay at his own game.

 

[get these nets]

thread is pure delusion

to this day we use the template of those disses in conversations

"oh I get it you're biggie and he's puffy"

"Queens dudes run y'all, ask Russell Simmons"......

he took, flipped, and beat jay z over the head with his own line "I WILL NOT LOSE"