Talking police reform with a cop

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He downplays police corruption and blames media for making fringe behavior appear to be the norm, when the overwhelming majority of cops honor their oath.
It's not fringe, and he knows it. An individual cop may be decent, but the fact that the system often circles the wagons to protect the bad cops is an indictment of the system as a whole.
 

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I worked for a police department for three years as a student police aide. Let me say this. It ain't anecdotal to say most, if not all police departments are rampant with racism and anti black sentiment. The black cops don't do shyt about it. Most are hardcore or soft shoe c00ns. Facts. If you don't know this then you don't know shyt about police. The stories I could tell....about everyday interactions that won't even make the local news is reprehensible. Anyone caping for cops is a c00n period. And I have family members high up in the Baltimore PD. When I see them (mostly at family functions) they don't say shyt because they know I got facts on their bullshyt.
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the dudes that have the gun/badge/training always get the blame.. like it or not . imo
as they should; however, let's not assume they have good training. cops with itchy trigger fingers, guns, terrible training + no accountability + the FACT that ppl of color are seen as more aggressive, even if they aren't ='s a bad mix. it starts with the cops tho, they have shyt training and are taught to eliminate the threat, not deescalate or properly escalate.

It's also very safe to assume that a lot of white cops are racist POS too :manny:
 

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So im talking with my neighbor(who is a white cop) about police reform today and he made some good arguments... figured I'd share an interesting one.


2-3 people are killed by police everyday, every year... most of whom are white, but its not even obvious that that's a bad number considering there are 300+ million. What is the expectation? what is an acceptable number? 0-1 a day? why? based on what?
Where does the idea that all the crime in a giant ass country should result in people never being killed come from?
...he also says not resisting arrest in would likely cut the number of deaths in half, but its easier to blame the officer than it is the person creating the hostile and/or unsafe situation.

Thoughts?:jbhmm:




Edit: He voted for Trump last election and says he is staying home this election.


The bolded...

The problem is the cops are the authority figures. They expect and demand to be in control but have the obscene notion that the person they are arresting would and should be compliant. In a hectic situation, its the authority figure's responsibility to BE the cooler head and de-escalate. If a child and a parent were having a squabble, you wouldn't expect the child to be the calm and collected one while the parent loses their shyt and lashes out, would you?

Of course not, that would be an abuse of power by the parent and that typically gets punished.There is very little the child can do to the parent in almost any situation outside of being a headache to deal with, but that's part of the job of being a parent. Extend that same mentality to Cops and Civilians...

In a tense situation between a cop and a civilian, it would be ridiculous to expect the civilian to be the calmer head, if at all over the cop because the cop is the authority figure and the one with the power and control. If the cop abuses that power and lashes out, they should be punished to the same extent a child abuser should be. The only exception to this idea IMO is when the civilian is hostile and armed, but that still doesn't warrant anything beyond equal force.

Most cops want the power and authority that come with the job but not the risk and hassles, and honestly if thats the case, they aren't cut out for the job. Also most cop lifers LIVE for the thrills of the job. They actively want people to resist at times because it gives them an opportunity to flex the power and authority the signed up for the job for. Things will never improve until cops are honest about the job and own up to both sides of being authority figures. I say this as the son of two FBI Agents and with a cousin as a homicide detective.
 

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Abortion is a bigger issue if we are talking about preserving life.

the 33 percent of 600k abortions per year are black children.

Can a woman who's terminated a black child in the womb and supports abortion say black lives matter.

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Abortion is a bigger issue if we are talking about preserving life.

the 33 percent of 600k abortions per year are black children.

Can a woman who's terminated a black child in the womb and supports abortion say black lives matter.

:ohhh:

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