Tanzania drops English as the language of instruction in secondary schools

[3rdWorld]

You obviously dont understand imperialism

I already told them the power of Language, but they choose to be deaf dumb and blind..I think they have an agenda.
Africans practiced mathematics and physics thousands of years before anybody else..they weren't speaking English and nor were they speaking French.

 

[intruder]

I already told them the power of Language, but they choose to be deaf dumb and blind..I think they have an agenda.
Africans practiced mathematics and physics thousands of years before anybody else..they weren't speaking English and nor were they speaking French.

Mentals slaves are too comfortable speaking their conquerors language so they couldnt comprehend the necessity for someone else to deviate from that.

Everytime i speak kreyol black people in America be looking at me all suprised like as if speaking another language other than English isnt natural for a black person. We're all speaking foreign languages, you bums. English was IMPOSED upon you.

 

[BigMan]

look, teaching a child subjects does not mean they will no longer speak English, you guys act as if speaking mutiple languages is impossible. English won't disappear from Tanzania any time soon. Swahili is their national language so it makes sense to teach it in schools. If the Asians nations did this i bet none of yall would have a problem.


@intruder are you really saying to get rid of French in Haiti or just in the schools

 

[intruder]

look, teaching a child subjects does not mean they wull bo longer speak English, you guys act as if speaking mutiple languages is impossible. English won't disappear from Tanzania any time soon. Swahili is their national language so it makes sense to teach it in schools. If the Asians nations did this i bet none of yall would have a problem.


@intruder are you really saying to get rid of French in Haiti or just in the schools

Teach them in kreyol, period

When we lived in Haiti my mother worked for ONAAC which was a sub-division of UNICEF. It's aim was to "alphabetize" or educate people in rural areas in Haiti where schools were far. It's tough to teach someone in a language they do not speak. Most Haitians go to school to learn french but dont practice it at home and therefore dont retain it in the long term. In the end it ends up being counter productive.

 

[BigMan]

Teach them in kreyol, period

When we lived in Haiti my mother worked for ONAAC which was a sub-division of UNICEF. It's aim was to "alphabetize" or educate people in rural areas in Haiti where schools were far. It's tough to teach someone in a language they do not speak. Most Haitians go to school to learn french but dont practice it at home and therefore dont retain it in the long term. In the end it ends up being counter productive.

keep it as the official language?

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Amen.

 

[luvaznpoon]

I met a chick from Tanzania. We were working on a project together. She was relatively petite with a monstrous ass. She was kinda conservative so she was always covered up. But that thang was poking out something serious.

I think its dope that they are getting rid of English from schools. First step of freeing yourself of the colonizers ideologies.

 

[intruder]

keep it as the official language?

I'm fine with it as ONE of the official languages. But not THE official language. But education should be done in kreyol imo

 

[TTT]

It's not going to change much IMO, Tanzania was already a Swahili dominant country compared to other countries like Kenya or Uganda.They will formalize it more but my impression has always been they have always used it far more than any other country.I have seen Tanzanian online message boards that are predominantly Swahili.Kenyans will use Swahili,English and their local language and that is typical of most Africans with regards to how we communicate. Languages that are used in schools are not necessarily the home languages and the Tanzanians can explore methods if any of teaching effectively using someone's mother tongue.They will however still need English to communicate with the rest of Africa and countries that are closer to them in the South and other parts of Africa.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

In countries which are really ethnically diverse - emphasizing a common language is important to help build up cultural unity. Having a common language tears down barriers, allows the build up of a culture (poetry, music, film etc.) and shared societal experiences.

In some African countries, that common language will have to be a European tongue. For instance, many Nigerians would be loathed to speak Hausa or Yoruba over English/Pidgin English. However, these languages of national unity don't make your country competitive globally. Even China is emphasizing the English language and their culture has existed for 4000 years and has over 1 billion people!

 

[Primetime21]

Mentals slaves are too comfortable speaking their conquerors language so they couldnt comprehend the necessity for someone else to deviate from that.

Everytime i speak kreyol black people in America be looking at me all suprised like as if speaking another language other than English isnt natural for a black person. We're all speaking foreign languages, you bums. English was IMPOSED upon you.

It isn't natural to American born Blacks which is why they look at you as you supposedly say they do.

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Breh I get that you were exagerating the first time for fun, but Africa has NOT been speaking european languages for hundreds of years. Colonization really only started at the end of the 19th century, that's just over a hundred years ago. And to this day it's mostly elites and people living in cities who speak european languages. For comparison sake, Arabic has been in Africa for way longer and is more widely spread.

Culture is intact? I'm not sure at all about that, because when you listen to old heads talk about political systems, traditions and yes, some languages, the cultures are far from intact. I've never heard anyone say that about Africa post-colonization.

African languages do have dictionnaries, just not widely spread/used. I have a french-sango-lingala dictionnary on my desk right now. Wolof has grammar books. Work is being done on those languages. African philosophers and writers are writing in their languages. Senegal just introduced the use of national languages in their parliament (translation booths paid for by the EU). But you seem to think that our languages don't have the "inherent" qualities to be languages of science or whatever. No offense, but that's absolute bullshyt. I'm actually appaled you would call your own language "primitive", that's exactly the type of auto-bashing that have led our countries not to develop strong linguistic and cultural policies, because it's so "primitive" anyway and the French and English are so much "advanced" than us, blah.

Do you know that at least a third of english words...were borrowed from french? Ain't nothing wrong with borrowing some words. Hell Bush said "French doesn't have a word for entrepreneur"...too ignorant to know that "entrepreneur" is a french word borrowed by english

English is not "better" than any other language, the reason it is at the forefront now is strictly due to the political, economical and military power of the US. Otherwise, the english language would have dominated the world before the US became the leading power of the world post WW2, and we both know (or at least I hope you do) that was not the case. Circumstances made english the current lingua franca, not any inherent qualities it may have. Speaking both, I can tell you that English for example is less precise than French, especially regarding law. That's why most deliberations at the European Court of Justice happen in ONE language : French. And also why Palestinians use the french version of UN resolution 242 rather than the english one, because the one is french is more precise about which territories Israël should withdraw from.

I don't know the last time you spoke french, but french, as any language, is constantly evolving.

This reasoning is like some non-English speakers eager to let their own language/culture/identity go because "English is better" and "My language/culture is primitive". I know the type, it's quite common in expat circles, especially in Brussels.

You do realize we have been slaves for over 400 years, I dont know where you're getting this just over 100 years part.

 

[intruder]

It isn't natural to American born Blacks which is why they look at you as you supposedly say they do.

It's not natural for anyone, period. Not just black americans. BUt when you think about it it all starts to make sense

I remember the first time I ever saw a black person speaking english in person I was stunned too. But then again i was just 7. But as I grew up and learned history it started making sense why. But trust me the first time ii ever visited the United States and heard a black dude speak English my reaction was

But again, that was as a 7 year old

 

[Poitier]

In countries which are really ethnically diverse - emphasizing a common language is important to help build up cultural unity. Having a common language tears down barriers, allows the build up of a culture (poetry, music, film etc.) and shared societal experiences.

In some African countries, that common language will have to be a European tongue. For instance, many Nigerians would be loathed to speak Hausa or Yoruba over English/Pidgin English. However, these languages of national unity don't make your country competitive globally. Even China is emphasizing the English language and their culture has existed for 4000 years and has over 1 billion people!

Fam, most of these dudes think Africa is a country.

 

[BigMan]

In countries which are really ethnically diverse - emphasizing a common language is important to help build up cultural unity. Having a common language tears down barriers, allows the build up of a culture (poetry, music, film etc.) and shared societal experiences.

In some African countries, that common language will have to be a European tongue. For instance, many Nigerians would be loathed to speak Hausa or Yoruba over English/Pidgin English. However, these languages of national unity don't make your country competitive globally. Even China is emphasizing the English language and their culture has existed for 4000 years and has over 1 billion people!

In Tanzania swahili is the unifying language not english