Tariq destroying ados was lowkey some agent shyt

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All Black people in the Western hemisphere are descended from slaves though..its not unique to North Americans only, which appears to be the sentiment around here.

And no self-respecting Black person even if a descendant of slaves would want 'slave' in their name or identity :scust:

FBA is a more respectable term, that other one is some unadulterated sambo shyt.

Yall love playing dense. We are making our case to the government of the United States of America. Using ADOS do you think they don't know we are talking about folks who were enslaved in the USA? Do you believe they will think we are talking about folks enslaved in Panama or Jamaica??

Slavery being part of the name is important for multiple reasons.

Slavery had to be in the name because this country is literally trying to erase what chattel slavery was,
how inhumane and cruel an institution it was, who participated in it and benefitted from it and how it transformed the economy of the United States.

Too many people in this country (white, ADOS and everyone in between) has been running from what chattel slavery truly was and how it shaped this country.
 

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In her defense, FBI allegedly visited Tariq Nasheed yesterday so she’s not far off.
Edit: just listened to the video, so that’s what this is about.




Wonder why he didn't play the part where they were questioning him?

Im sure his responses were,

Sir, its just satire...

My real name is Marcus, Tariq is just a stage name...

Racist? No, my mother-in-law is white, she's upstairs sleeping...

Did I mention she's ex-law enforcement...

No problem sir, I can give your agency more names if you like.
 

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Yall love playing dense. We are making our case to the government of the United States of America. Using ADOS do you think they don't know we are talking about folks who were enslaved in the USA? Do you believe they will think we are talking about folks enslaved in Panama or Jamaica??

Slavery being part of the name is important for multiple reasons.

Slavery had to be in the name because this country is literally trying to erase what chattel slavery was,
how inhumane and cruel an institution it was, who participated in it and benefitted from it and how it transformed the economy of the United States.

Too many people in this country (white, ADOS and everyone in between) has been running from what chattel slavery truly was and how it shaped this country.
The point is to leave zero room for anyone to "think" anything

its all dependent on hoping people are acting on good faith when they refer to it. We see how that went with African-American

look im not a fan of acronyms period. We need to find an actual word, that can be our ethnic designation
 

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OP..

Does Tariq dislike all non-FBAs or specific ones?

I never heard him criticize all non-FBAs. I have heard him check specific ones who he deemed to be c-words just like he has done with FBAs who he deemed to be c-words.

If you feel that he shouldn't check any non-FBAs on anything, then who should?

When an non-FBA says negative things about FBAs, then who should check that person?

Also, why is Tariq's personal assistant a non-FBA, if you feel he doesn't like all non-FBAs?

Regarding his funding campaign, no person is obligated to donate to his campaign.

I personally don't believe he will reach his goal, but I hope he does.

You are within your right to dislike the man, but at least make good faith arguments when you criticize the man...


Yeah I mostly hear him say "You have to watch our for non FBA who *insert something c00ns do*.


Problem with doing this is you are going to attract people who flat out dont like non African Americans. For their own ignorant reasons. Just like how thinly veiled racism will always attract full blown KKK racist. While giving them a veil to hide behind. As they act to co-opt whatever your valid concerns may be. I defenitely said ADOS leaders and followers needed to call out the agents within their ranks. The real agents were the ones who co-opted it, to spread bitter feelings of other ethnic groups.


But most took the stance of "hyon:manny:". Saying Africans dont call out their own who disparage AA's. Which may be true. But the difference is your group is looking to appear legitimate,and not like a hate group:mjlol:


Unfortunately that small,loud minority of ignorants in "Ados" made alot of noise. Because they stirred up the most emotion.
 

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He destroyed the momentum of ados and reperations creating a separate group called FBA where all he does is bash black immigrants and hasn't presented any tanigble legislation or path forward to get reparations.

He barely even talks about reparations anymore and has had multiple donation runs for his buck breaking documentary, FBA conference and now a museum.

Why no t get funding tobpush legislation or get politicians in office who will support reparations?

I've been a fan but I'm starting to look at him funny from his lowkey Trump support and pushing anti vax nonsense when black people are dying in droves from covid.
No shyt. I’m shocked
 

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The point is to leave zero room for anyone to "think" anything

its all dependent on hoping people are acting on good faith when they refer to it. We see how that went with African-American

look im not a fan of acronyms period. We need to find an actual word, that can be our ethnic designation

ADOS and Freedmen describe the people. There is already zero room for anyone with a brain.

Plus the criteria for Reparations spells out exactly who we are. In an official sense Freedmen can work now because of the precedent of use by the U.S. government.

People need to stop makinf shyt more complicated than it needs to be.
 

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:skip: And im debunking your debunking.

People were asking yvette for individualized voting guides. She responded, "No, im not going district by district holding hands. You know your interests, just vote for them. Theyll probably be democrats." Again, not telling ppl to vote dem downballot willy nilly. Simply that the ppl most likely to push stuff we like locally are probably gonna be dem.

Naturally, ppl were like, "What if its a republican?" She was like, "welp, then do what you gotta do to promote y/ our interests."

The reason she wanted ppl to vote downballot, for either party, was bc she felt that our absence would be incorrectly interpreted as a complete lack of engagement. Instead, she wanted it to be clear from polling that, yes, bp came out to vote, we just purposely chose not to vote for your presidential candidate.

Conversely , tariq and them advocate complete disengagement, in part to send a message, but a very different one: we no longer trust your system at all and will work outside of it.

Two different approaches that should be debated on their merits, imo, not with the petty shyt. All movements start somewhere, extremists split off and start they own shyt, whatever. My mother started in SCLC and ended in the panthers, movements (and the ppl in them) evolve. As long as everybody stay on code with the project (in this case, reparations) and dont be messy in public.
Mannn... the tweets and videos are out there. They were emphatic about YES voting-- downballot-- and democrat. I don't even know why that's a topic for debate, they basically said you better do some serious homework and have a strong case to do otherwise.

I'm not saying this as some Democratic shill, I just get hyperaware with inconsistencies and can't rock with em being done over and over. Her and Tone wanted to campaigned to vote #DownballotDem or #DemDownballot as if that wouldn't include numerous members of the same CBC they shyt all over.

The notion that they were somehow better than Tariq or FBA is laughable. They still said "Don't vote" it was just "Don't vote for president"-- the one job in charge of court appointments and we see how that's going now. The fact that Donald Trump and the GOP worked their asses off to secure the Supreme Court BEFORE there was a chance to lose the election is the only saving grace they got. Cause had their plan gone accordingly and Trump was securing that shyt in a 2nd term??? Lawd... the smoke that woulda been unleashed on them :ohlawd:
 

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ADOS isn't militant enough to be taken seriously. The fukk you lamblasting Demorats for, only to turn around and vote for them when the election comes around?

:rudy: nahhh they said vote downballot democrat UNLESS there's a different candidate who represents your interests better. Yvette kept saying she don't care if it's a vote for "your local dogcatcher" lol

So in any case the only thing that was detrimental to Yvette's hate movement was that she finally began doing more than bashing Latinos and encouraged her cult to **GASP** become politically engaged and participate in elections. :heh:


No wonder it didn't take shyt for Tariq to steal her entire brain dead audience and thunder. Bunch of easily manipulated fools.

The only place where "ADOS" has anything to show for after 7 years is in big blue Democrat, liberal, immigrant haven California. And they didn't get where they did listening to these clowns telling them to disengage with politicians, sit home, hold votes, let Republicans win elections, and do nothing while white people pick all the lawmakers, all the judges and all the Presidents until Democrats meet our "demands." They got it by doing the exact opposite.
 

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ADOS and Freedmen describe the people. There is already zero room for anyone with a brain.

Plus the criteria for Reparations spells out exactly who we are. In an official sense Freedmen can work now because of the precedent of use by the U.S. government.

People need to stop makinf shyt more complicated than it needs to be.
when u come up with an ethnic identifier it needs to be clear and concise

ADOS has way too much gray area. Again you are depending on people "to know who we are really talking about"

thats not good enough

Ados is not japanese,irish,Chinese,italian etc

Its american descendant of slavery

you can be an american descendant of slavery and not be the group this is intended for

This is not even a debate or argument. Im telling you they are going to play those games lol. Because the doors are left open to play them
 

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:skip: And im debunking your debunking.

People were asking yvette for individualized voting guides. She responded, "No, im not going district by district holding hands. You know your interests, just vote for them. Theyll probably be democrats." Again, not telling ppl to vote dem downballot willy nilly. Simply that the ppl most likely to push stuff we like locally are probably gonna be dem.

Naturally, ppl were like, "What if its a republican?" She was like, "welp, then do what you gotta do to promote y/ our interests."

The reason she wanted ppl to vote downballot, for either party, was bc she felt that our absence would be incorrectly interpreted as a complete lack of engagement. Instead, she wanted it to be clear from polling that, yes, bp came out to vote, we just purposely chose not to vote for your presidential candidate.

Conversely , tariq and them advocate complete disengagement, in part to send a message, but a very different one: we no longer trust your system at all and will work outside of it.

Two different approaches that should be debated on their merits, imo, not with the petty shyt. All movements start somewhere, extremists split off and start they own shyt, whatever. My mother started in SCLC and ended in the panthers, movements (and the ppl in them) evolve. As long as everybody stay on code with the project (in this case, reparations) and dont be messy in public.
Then she should have been more clear with that messaging. Before the blowup, I watched her a few times, she said "down ballot Democrat", but not "besides the POTUS" (paraphrasing). One of several things that had me thiking they were incompetnt or not really serious. BEFORE the beefs, bending over for Byron Allen and the other fukkery.
ADOS and Freedmen describe the people. There is already zero room for anyone with a brain.

Plus the criteria for Reparations spells out exactly who we are. In an official sense Freedmen can work now because of the precedent of use by the U.S. government.

People need to stop makinf shyt more complicated than it needs to be.
Neither of you are technically wrong, but, I fukk with FBA because I have seen cacs and non-FBA people trying to use trick language to come into our benefits, including ADOS. FBA is much easier to back up. The original DOAS Y and T stole from that professor makes more sense, but, just like people say about Tariq, they had to have their own identifier to try to get bread off of. So, FBA it is to me until someone comes up with somethig better.
 
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