Tariq nasheed finally went too far

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No, I am real and you're the one not being real. "resurgent prejudice against jews?" Resurgent as in it went away and now it's coming back? Come on man, prejudice never went away. People just feel more comfortable expressing those views in today's climate. And to me prejudice is prejudice...there is no special word for anti jewish prejudice..to me. "Resurgence?" hahahahahahhahaahah Next you'll tell me that we lived actually post racial society under Obama, and that there is now a resurgence of anti-Black prejudice .

When media people went in on Farrkahan a few weeks ago I posted a 20 year old article that was true then and true today. John Henrik Clarke said that Farrakhan and Black people are easy targets(bogeymen) for jews to single out...but that there are neo nazi groups out there organizing and plotting against them with bad intentions. They are publicly concerned about the wrong people.


Now as for you trying to tell ME which words offend ME under the guise of "one N word is different and if you're Black..yada yada" again....I direct you to get all the way the fukk outta here. This is the text book definition of juelzing.

YOU ARE A KNOWN ANTI-SEMITE THO, FOH

AND U IGNORED HIS ENTIRE POINT TO RAMBLE ABOUT ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN

AGAIN, WHEN AND WHERE ARE PEOPLE ALLOWED TO USE THE N-WORD ON HERE WITOUT GETTIN BANNED? THAT WAS YOUR CLAIM, RIGHT??

THE TRUTH IS THAT U ENJOY PEOPLE USIN RACIAL SLURS TOWARDS JEWS, SO ULL SAY WHATEVER U CAN TO JUSTIFY THAT BIITCHASSNESS.
 

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There was a campaign in Ghana that got a statue of Gandhi taken down...The petition was multi parts and listed some of his racist quotes....many are from several years after he landed in S.A.

Tear down the Gandhi statue [1]

Again, I posted extensive, extensive evidence of Gandhi's support for and from the Black community here, and the specific things he stated should be done to advance the African cause:

Tariq nasheed finally went too far


And there are 100 pages of those receipts here. That link goes on for pages detailing EXACTLY where and how Gandhi was speaking in support of the Black struggle in Africa and America during his own lifetime:

The African Element in Gandhi


The link you shared is no different than any other political correctness-based university movement anywhere else in the world in 2016. They took a couple quotes out-of-context from Gandhi's earlier years and ignored everything else about his history. Those statements were universally from the first half of Gandhi's life, from the 1880s to about 1905, before he understood racial equality. My quotes came completely from 1905 to 1942. So which set represents Gandhi's settled position?

Now, who do you believe is a better authority on Gandhi - people like John Dube, S.S. Tema, W.E.B. DuBois, Marcus Garvey, Hubert Harrison, and the rest who knew Gandhi personally and communicated with him directly? People like Mordacai Johnson, Martin Luther King Jr., Langston Hughes, Aminu Kano, Kwame Nkrumah, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Nelson Mandela, Albert Luthuli, Desmond Tutu, Julius Nyerere, Kenneth Kaunda, and Joshua Nkomo who studied Gandhi extensively IN HIS ERA and directly applied in life to their own struggle? Or a couple college professors 100+ years later who copy-and-paste some quotes no differently than a coli poster does?

Nothing Gandhi had said about Black people was secret or hidden. The Black and African intellectuals expected that of non-Black persons in the British empire as a default in the 1800s. It wasn't like today where racism was a known "bad" thing - back then even the pro-black non-black people were typically racist by default. It wasn't until Gandhi's personal experiences in the Bambatha Rebellion in 1906 and his reading of Jean Finot's Race Prejudice in the following year that he realized racism was wrong.

It comes down to whether you believe that damn near every Black intellectual and freedom fighter of the early 20th century was an idiot who didn't know any better, or whether you actually trust them that Gandhi was an inspiration to and friend of Black people in his era. A few quotes from the first half of someone's life don't invalidate the actual reality of what happened in the second half of his life.
 

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WHAT DO U DRIVE? DO U OWN PROPERTY?

fukk you. you have nothing fakkit. i am definitely more hardworking and richer than your ass, you will never be on my level in a million lifetimes, stay in your lane delusional lazy keyboard fap homo.

lmao @ you having property, what a joke. :stopitslime:
 

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fukk you. you have nothing fakkit. i am definitely more hardworking and richer than your ass, you will never be on my level in a million lifetimes, stay in your lane delusional lazy keyboard fap homo.

lmao @ you having property, what a joke. :stopitslime:

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
 

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THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

nope you dont have shyt fakkit. i am not telling you shyt, who the fukk are you? The Answer = A NOBODY IN LIFE. i am not trying to impress a LOSER. :camby:
 

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nope you dont have shyt fakkit. i am not telling you what i have, who the fukk are you? THE Answer = A NOBODY IN LIFE. :camby:


I CAN TELL BY YOUR RESPONSE THAT U MOST LIKELY DRIVE A ‘02 CIVIC AND RENT AN APARTMENT SPLIT 50/50 WIT SOME BUM U MET OFF CRAIGSLIST

U AINT ON MY LEVEL, DUMMY- FALL BACK.
 

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I CAN TELL BY YOUR RESPONSE THAT U MOST LIKELY DRIVE A ‘02 CIVIC AND RENT AN APARTMENT SPLIT 50/50 WIT SOME BUM U MET OFF CRAIGSLIST.

nope. i have a family and a career etc. GTFOH. you have NOTHING, just a lazy bum. the stuff you typed you don't even have that you fake loser. that stupid craiglist scenario you typed is superior to you in all ways.

you don't even have a car. someone who calls himself "la's most blunted" is here trying to fake stunt, you just exposing yourself more and more, LMAO.

YOU LAZY always smoking/typing WEAK b*stard
 
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nope. i have a family and a career etc. GTFOH. you have NOTHING, just a lazy bum. the stuff you typed you don't even have that you fake loser. that stupid craiglist scenario you typed is superior to you in all ways.


LOL SURE THING LOSER. PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHIIT DONT RANDOMLY HATE ON PEOPLE THEY DONT KNOW ONLINE. THEM NEGATIVE FEELINGS IS COMIN FROM SOMEWHERE.

IM VERY TRANSPARENT ON HERE AND ITS NOT THAT HARD TO FACT CHECK MY ESTIMATED VALUE. IVE ACTUALLY POSTED IT N PROVIDED PROOF ON THIS VERY WEBSITE WHEN A BROKE NERD LIKE U TRIED FLEXIN ON ME LIKE U DOIN RIGHT NOW.

U, ON THE OTHER HAND, MOST LIKELY HIDING, NEVER POSTED YOUR IDENTITY ON HERE, PROBABLY RENT, AND DRIVE A BUCKET.

IM DEFINITELY WORTH MORE THAN U AND YOUR “WIFE” COMBINED - WE CAN DO A BAN BET ON THAT, BUT U TOO PUSY TO SHOWN N PROVE.
 

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Again, I posted extensive, extensive evidence of Gandhi's support for and from the Black community here, and the specific things he stated should be done to advance the African cause:

Tariq nasheed finally went too far


And there are 100 pages of those receipts here. That link goes on for pages detailing EXACTLY where and how Gandhi was speaking in support of the Black struggle in Africa and America during his own lifetime:

The African Element in Gandhi


The link you shared is no different than any other political correctness-based university movement anywhere else in the world in 2016. They took a couple quotes out-of-context from Gandhi's earlier years and ignored everything else about his history. Those statements were universally from the first half of Gandhi's life, from the 1880s to about 1905, before he understood racial equality. My quotes came completely from 1905 to 1942. So which set represents Gandhi's settled position?

Now, who do you believe is a better authority on Gandhi - people like John Dube, S.S. Tema, W.E.B. DuBois, Marcus Garvey, Hubert Harrison, and the rest who knew Gandhi personally and communicated with him directly? People like Mordacai Johnson, Martin Luther King Jr., Langston Hughes, Aminu Kano, Kwame Nkrumah, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Nelson Mandela, Albert Luthuli, Desmond Tutu, Julius Nyerere, Kenneth Kaunda, and Joshua Nkomo who studied Gandhi extensively IN HIS ERA and directly applied in life to their own struggle? Or a couple college professors 100+ years later who copy-and-paste some quotes no differently than a coli poster does?

Nothing Gandhi had said about Black people was secret or hidden. The Black and African intellectuals expected that of non-Black persons in the British empire as a default in the 1800s. It wasn't like today where racism was a known "bad" thing - back then even the pro-black non-black people were typically racist by default. It wasn't until Gandhi's personal experiences in the Bambatha Rebellion in 1906 and his reading of Jean Finot's Race Prejudice in the following year that he realized racism was wrong.

It comes down to whether you believe that damn near every Black intellectual and freedom fighter of the early 20th century was an idiot who didn't know any better, or whether you actually trust them that Gandhi was an inspiration to and friend of Black people in his era. A few quotes from the first half of someone's life don't invalidate the actual reality of what happened in the second half of his life.

Wait, so that's what you're calling these kaffir.savages quotes...."a couple of out of context quotes"?

They weren't taken out of context at all and are pretty consistent documented quotes over a 10-15 year span .

Are you serious?

Taken out of context is the first excuse you're using.............disingenuously by the way.."before he understood racial equality"
WHAT? He understood racial equality as applying to "Indo-Aryans" not to Blacks



most of the book is previewed in google books

I actually cannot believe some of what you wrote in this post.
 

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LOL SURE THING LOSER. PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHIIT DONT RANDOMLY HATE ON PEOPLE THEY DONT KNOW ONLINE. THEM NEGATIVE FEELINGS IS COMIN FROM SOMEWHERE.IM VERY TRANSPARENT ON HERE AND ITS NOT THAT HARD TO FACT CHECK MY ESTIMATED VALUE. IVE ACTUALLY POSTED IT N PROVIDED PROOF ON THIS VERY WEBSITE WHEN A BROKE NERD LIKE U TRIED FLEXIN ON ME LIKE U DOIN RIGHT NOW.U, ON THE OTHER HAND, MOST LIKELY HIDING, NEVER POSTED YOUR IDENTITY ON HERE, PROBABLY RENT, AND DRIVE A BUCKET.IM DEFINITELY WORTH MORE THAN U AND YOUR “WIFE” COMBINED - WE CAN DO A BAN BET ON THAT, BUT U TOO PUSY TO SHOWN N PROVE.

dude you are triggered. look at him typing in all caps :mjlol:. it shows how insecure and fake you are. sit your ass down somewhere and change your horrible life, no professional career man acts like you behaving like a teenager on here, bragging about smoking blunts and trolling etc GTFOH dude. you don't have shyt, you lying and playing yourself thinking you can deceive people here saying you have property in la and it shows glaringly lying lazy c*nt. :hhh:
 

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dude you are triggered. look at him typing in all caps :mjlol:. it shows how insecure and fake you are. sit your ass down somewhere and change your horrible life, no professional career man acts like you behaving like a teenager on here, bragging about smoking blunts etc GTFOH dude. you don't have shyt, you lying thinking you can deceive people here saying you have property in LA and it shows glaringly lying lazy c*nt. :hhh:


HEY GAYBOY, I WOULD STFU IF I WERE U

I JUST WENT THROUGH YOUR POSTING HISTORY AND THE RECEIPTS OF YOU BEING A WHITE, HOMOSEXUAL DUMBFUCC ARE FAR TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE

SIT DOWN OR THIS IS GUNA GET VERY UGLY
 

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HEY GAYBOY, I WOULD STFU IF I WERE UI JUST WENT THROUGH YOUR POSTING HISTORY AND THE RECEIPTS OF YOU BEING A WHITE, ARE FAR TOO GOOD TO BE TRUESIT DOWN OR THIS IS GUNA GET VERY UGLY

dude shut the fukk up, you don't have shyt. GTFOH go through whatever you want, who the fukk cares???? YOU ARE A LOSER IN LIFE, nothing will EVER change that FACT. i know you aint shyt and will NEVER be shyt.

go smoke like you always do fakkit, coming online to troll as escapism instead of dealing with your real life problems.
 

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dude shut the fukk up, you don't have shyt. GTFOH go through whatever you want, who the fukk cares???? YOU LOSER, nothing will change that.

U GOT WAY TOO MANY CRINGEY THREADS LIKE THIS ONE TO BE TALKIN SHIIT:

Are Black people WEAK or something??????

^^AND THIS AINT SHIIT TOO

AND YOUR NAME IS TODD TOO? OOOOOHWEEE.. IMA DESTROY U IF U KEEP IT UP HOMIE. THE THREAD I MAKE REVEALING WHO U ARE WILL DO NUMBERS, BELIEVE THAT.. YOUR CHOICE.
 

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U GOT WAY TOO MANY CRINGEY THREADS LIKE THIS ONE TO BE TALKIN SHIIT:Are Black people WEAK or something??????^^AND THIS AINT SHIIT TOOIMA DESTROY U IF U KEEP IT UP HOMIE. THE THREAD I MAKE REVEALING WHO U ARE WILL DO NUMBERS. YOUR CHOICE.

get your fake USELESS threat out of here. dude i stand on anything i said mr -12660 reps, GTFOH there is no way someone with real ambition to be that deep in the red, you pretty much live on thecoli fakkit troll SMH . :scust:
 
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Wait, so that's what you're calling these kaffir.savages quotes...."a couple of out of context quotes"?

They weren't taken out of context at all and are pretty consistent documented quotes over a 10-15 year span .

Are you serious?

Taken out of context is the first excuse you're using.............disingenuously by the way.."before he understood racial equality"
It's taken out of context because it's not the 1880s anymore and it's straight false to claim that that's what Gandhi continued to believe for the rest of his life.

People keep portraying those quotes as if those represent Gandhi's settled beliefs. It's like they're clueless on how history works.

Get real with me for a second. Imagine it is the 1880s and you looking at a non-Black subject of the British empire who has been taught his entire life that there is an hierarchy of races. You expect him to just become a 21st-century multiculturalist hero....how? That's the context we're talking about.

The crazy shyt is, Gandhi DID become that multiculturalist hero. It just took until 1907 and required the right experiences with Africans and the right intellectual defense of equality and his own maturity, it didn't happen automatically by a miracle when he was 25.

Now, let's stop the diversions and get back to the topic that was actually being debated.

Was Gandhi considered a friend and hero by African and African-American freedom fighters of his day or not, who were WELL aware of his beliefs?

Are you claiming to know more about his beliefs than friends of his like W.E.B. DuBois and John Dube?

Answer the question. :comeon:



WHAT? He understood racial equality as applying to "Indo-Aryans" not to Blacks.

That's a lie if you're talking about post-1907 Gandhi. Finot's argument, which he accepted, was that ALL races were equal and that the apparent lower education and living standards of Africans were due to lack of education and opportunity, not to inherit differences.

Gandhi and W.E.B. DuBois attended the First Universal Races Congress of 1911 together, which worked for mutual understanding between ALL races. African Nationalists like Dusé Mohamed Ali and Mojola Agbebi were speakers, and African-American activists like William Sanders Scarborough, Sarah J. Garnet, and Susan McKinney Steward were speakers as well.

Tell me - are these statements by Gandhi legit or not? Are they arguing for equal rights for Africans or not?

“If in any respect the British administration is unjust to the Native, civilized or uncivilized, it is a blot and a stain on our administration, and one which I feel personally as an implication of disgrace.” (Indian Opinion, August 12, 1905)
“Their struggles are of different types...as South Africa is their mother country, they have a better right here than we have." (Indian Opinion, July 27, 1907)
“If we look into the future, is it not a heritage we have to leave to posterity, that all the different races commingle and produce a civilization that perhaps the world has not yet seen?” (Gandhi in his Johannesburg Speech, May 18, 1908)
“The election of the Rev. Dr Rubusana as a member of the Cape Provincial Council for Tembuland by a majority of 25 over his two opponents is an event of great importance. The election is really a challenge to the Union Parliament with reference to the colour clause. That Dr Rubusana can sit in the Provincial Council but not in the Union Parliament is a glaring anomaly which must disappear if South Africans are to become a real nation in the near future. We congratulate Dr Rubusana and the Coloured races on his victory and trust that his career in the Council will do credit to him and those he represents.” (Indian Opinion, September 24, 1910).
“I had the pleasure of hearing Dr Du Bois…. He is the gifted author of the Souls of Black Folk …. and everyone will rejoice that the negroes have so able and farseeing a representative; his spirit is co-operation and conciliation....Dr Du Bois is not only a great man amongst negroes, but also a great man amongst the world’s great men”” (Indian Opinion, August 5, 1911).
“In cocoa plantations, Negro workers are subjected to such inhuman treatment that if we witnessed it with our own eyes we would have no desire to drink cocoa. Volumes have been written on the tortures inflicted in these plantations....I also avoid tea and coffee as far as possible, since they are the produce of slave labour.” (Indian Opinion, March 8, 1913)
“The Natives Land Act of the Union Parliament has created consternation among the Natives. Indeed, every other question, not excluding the Indian question, pales into insignificance before the great Native question. This land is theirs by birth and this Act of confiscation – for such it is – is likely to give rise to serious consequences unless the Government take care.” (Indian Opinion, August 30, 1913).
“Indians have too much in common with the Africans to think of isolating themselves from them. They cannot exist in South Africa for any length of time without the active sympathy and friendship of the Africans." (Gandhi in Young India, April 5, 1928)
“As there has been an awakening in India, even so there will be an awakening in South Africa with its vastly richer resources — natural, mineral and human. The mighty English look quite pygmies before the mighty races of Africa. They are noble savages after all, you will say. They are certainly noble, but no savages and in the course of a few years the Western nations may cease to find in Africa a dumping ground for their wares.” (Gandhi, speaking at Oxford, October 24, 1931)
“Our deliverance must mean their deliverance. But, if that cannot come about, I should have no interest in a partnership with Britain, even if it were of benefit to India.” (Young India, November 19, 1931).
“You, on the other hand, are the sons of the soil who are being robbed of your inheritance. You are bound to resist that. Yours is a far bigger issue.” (Gandhi to Rev S.S. Tema, January 1, 1939)
“I witnessed some of the horrors that were perpetrated on the Zulus during the Zulu Rebellion. Because one man, Bambatta, their chief, had refused to pay his tax, the whole race was made to suffer. I was in charge of an ambulance corps. I shall never forget the lacerated backs of Zulus who had received stripes and were brought to us for nursing because no white nurse was prepared to look after them. And yet those who perpetrated all those cruelties called themselves Christians. They were ‘educated’, better dressed than the Zulus, but not their moral superiors.” (January 1, 1939)
Gandhi provided a neat formula for mutual understanding. He declared that if Indian rights conflicted with African “vital interests”, he would “advise the forgoing of those rights” (Harijan, July 1, 1939).
A few months before the All India Congress Committee (AICC) of the Indian National Congress decided in 1942 upon the Quit India movement against British rule, Gandhi wrote an article entitled “To Every Briton”. In it he asked every Briton “to support me in my appeal to the British at this very hour to retire from every Asiatic and African possession and at least from India. That step is necessary for the destruction of Nazism and Fascism. In this I include Japan’s ‘ism’ also. It is a good copy of the two.”



And tell me, are these statements about Gandhi from the leading Black freedom fighters of the time true or not?

African leaders like Nelson Mandela, Kwame Nkrumah, Albert Luthuli, Desmond Tutu, Julius Nyerere, Kenneth Kaunda, among others, have in some form or another, acknowledged Gandhiji as an inspiration. Even a leader like Joshua Nkomo of Zimbabwe, who found Gandhiji’s methods “not appropriate” to the “special national situation” in his country, nevertheless observes that Gandhiji’s movements were “an inspiration to us, showing that independence need not remain a dream”.
As one writer has put it: “Of all the Asian independence movements, the Indian movement has undoubtedly stirred the imagination of African nationalists the most. And it is not difficult to see why. First, there was the personality of Mahatma Gandhi. The message cabled by the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) on his death expressed the sentiments of all African nationalists, for whom Gandhi was the ‘bearer of the torch of liberty of oppressed peoples’ and whose life had been ‘an inspiration to colonials everywhere’.”
Gandhiji’s struggle and method inspired and interested African-Americans as well. This became evident as articles relating to him and his activities began to appear in African-American journals at least as early as 1919. Hubert Harrison and Dr W E B DuBois were among the prominent African-American intellectuals who began to write and speak about him at this time. Later Gandhiji’s method became a model for the African-American struggle under the leadership of Martin Luther King, Jr., as is well known.
Dr W E B DuBois, the inspiration behind the Pan-African movement, referred to Gandhi in the context of resolving racial conflict especially in the American South: “If we …. solve our antithesis; great Gandhi lives again. If we cannot civilise the South, or will not even try, we continue in contradiction and riddle.” [W E B DuBois, Will the Great Gandhi Live Again?]
He wrote that it may well be that “real human equality and brotherhood in the United States will come only under the leadership of another Gandhi.” (W E B DuBois, Gandhi and the American Negroes).
Marcus Garvey too was in touch with Gandhi. Garvey, Chairman of the Fourth Annual International Convention of the Negro Peoples of the World, had on behalf of “the Negroes of the world” sent greetings to Gandhi for the “fight for the freedom of your people and country”. Garvey added: “We are with you”. Gandhi, who had been released in early 1924 after spending nearly two years in prison, said “I gladly publish and gratefully acknowledge."
In a 1956 preface to his autobiography, Kwame Nkrumah wrote: “After months of studying Gandhi’s policy, and watching the effect that it had, I began to see that, when backed by a strong political organisation it could be the solution to the colonial problem.”
As late as the end of the sixties, the West African nationalist pioneer, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe wrote in the light of his own experience: “On Gandhi’s teachings of satyagraha, history has proved Gandhi right.”
Aminu Kano, according to his biographer, “analysed Gandhi’s success in lifting millions of Indians to a high level of dedication and endeavoured to adapt Gandhi’s non-violent techniques to Northern Nigeria”.
“M.K Gandhi and John Dube, first President of the African National Congress were neighbors in Inanda, and each influenced the other, for both men established, at about the same time, two monuments to human development within a stone’s throw of each other, the Ohlange Institute and the Phoenix Settlement. Both institutions suffer today the trauma of the violence that has overtaken that region; hopefully, both will rise again, phoenix-like, to lead us to undreamed heights.” - Nelson Mandela
Mighty Britain, tremble!
Let your empire’s standard sway
Let it break entirely—
My Gandhi fasts today

You may think it foolish—
That there’s no truth in what I say—
That all of Asia’s watching
As Gandhi fasts today

All of Asia’s watching
And I am watching, too,
For I am also jim crowed –
As India is jim crowed by you.

You know quite well, Great Britain
That it is not right
To starve and beat and oppress
Those who are not white.

Of course, we do it too.
Here in the U.S.A.
May Gandhi’s prayers help us, as well
As he fasts today.

“Gandhi Is Fasting” by Langston Hughes
February 20, 1943



Remember, the question is whether Gandhi influenced the Black community of his era or not.

Look at those receipts, That is NOT a debatable question. :martin:

He did. You can't deny that.:manny:
 
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