Tariq Nasheed on Barack Obama

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I see where both ya coming from. Men and women both need to be accountable for their actions. Men need to stop falling for women with just a a$$ tyts and no future. And women need to stop fallin for the dude with swag with nothing else goin on. And yes im generalizing. They want us to go at it. Men hate women and vise versa that's why we're divided now. We don't have no structure. And I agree men must lead. And raise their standards when it comes to women. Women also need to be more responsible with who they lay with. It works on both sides. But men must lead by example and focus on other things besides a nut. The women will eventually follow. They want and need guidance and game to be passed on to their seeds.
 

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I see where both ya coming from. Men and women both need to be accountable for their actions. Men need to stop falling for women with just a a$$ tyts and no future. And women need to stop fallin for the dude with swag with nothing else goin on. And yes im generalizing. They want us to go at it. Men hate women and vise versa that's why we're divided now. We don't have no structure. And I agree men must lead. And raise their standards when it comes to women. Women also need to be more responsible with who they lay with. It works on both sides. But men must lead by example and focus on other things besides a nut. The women will eventually follow. They want and need guidance and game to be passed on to their seeds.
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@marcuz is an idiot. The same one who thinks abolishing the drop rule is good so we can end up like Brazil, DR, Venezuela and Mexico.

Black issues are simple. Capitalism caters to the group with the most money and in this case, the biggest population. To overcome that, a strong culture is needed or the most powerful group can undermine. At this juncture, Black people aren't strong enough to turn down $$ Whites give us to own our schools, music, police departments, local governments, sports, etc

That leaves us with

1. Getting our population numbers up to increase our consumer base. Whites can beat us in sheer raw consumption and thus will be able to have their way with our artforms.

2. Integrating into majority Black countries

3. Breeding ourselves out

4. Stay right where the fukk we are

The Internet could have been a great tool for Black consciousness and capitalism (and it has to some degree), but it has amplified the most negative aspects at a higher decibel
Only other possibly is a Black country like Nigeria gaining world power status and deciding to invest heavily in Black American communities :manny:

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nikka WHO said that?

Why can't black men just fukking stick with the mother of their children???????? or at least be in the kids fukking life???

this is something you should ask someone that abandoned their children. if i had to take a wild shot in the dark, it could be a few things:

- being raised in a single mother environment and believing fathers aren't necessary
- didn't like the woman he fukked to begin with, just wanted some p*ssy
- has nothing to offer as a husband or father, and feels ashamed



I'm saying the blame game doesn't help anyone.

Men must be willing to BE MEN and stand the fukk up.

blame game doesn't help anyone yet everyone loves to soley blame black men.

and please stop with the rhetoric unless you're going to explain what you mean by it.




if the kid is already here, the time for pointing fingers goes out the window.

i disagree


Men will always have to provide for women. Period.

thats fine, long as it's understood that women will never be equal under that paradigm

I'm not even a right wing dude like that...but you're pushing me to resort to some primal shyt because of your sheer stupidity.

You're blaming women and i'm telling you to man the fukk up...

...but its cool...you just blame women for getting pregnant...and thats not the issue. Its about BEING FATHERS.

i'm saying women are mostly responsible for their own pregnancies unless they raped. once again, all that man up, be a man, empty 90s talk show rhetoric is meaningless.

you're talking about shyt that don't matter.

We're talking about being in your kids life...you're talking about sex ed :mjlol:

and yet the problem start before the kids are brought into this world though. y'all kill me with this "why didn't DMX turn into Obama after he got me pregnant" bs
 

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Obama addressing black fathers shouldn't be regard as offensive. When we talk about the state of our condition, we always bring up the absent of black fatherhood in our community.
If the men wore condoms, single parents household wouldn't be pervasive as it is in our society. I have seen your posts many times in threads where women are manifested as the sole problem that created broken homes. You never seem to stand on the fence while you leaned on one side that blame women for everything.

And are we going to deny that they are men playing women out of their clothes for sex and bounce?. You know the one that pretend to love and care for his lady, but only lied to get the ass, and soon as he is done completing his mission , he disappeared. :stopitslime:

here we go with the innocent black woman and the evil black man story again. how about women force men to wear condoms if they are so important? it's sad that i've had to initiate protected sex every time i've been with these chicks. hell, some of these broads get offended when you pull out a rubber.

like i said 12 forms of birthcontrol + adoption and abortions, no reason women should be bringing unwanted children into this world.
 

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@marcuz is an idiot. The same one who thinks abolishing the 1 drop rule is good so we can end up like Brazil, DR, Venezuela and Mexico.

the one drop rule should be abolished. it's idiotic and it's been used against us quite well in the US.
 

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the one drop rule should be abolished. it's idiotic and it's been used against us quite well in the US.

And yet all the other countries in the Americas who didn't have it are majority mixed breed :ohhh:
 

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Stop being so fukking myopic!

This isn't about you!

Dudes need NOT to abandon women they ALREADY have kids with. Period.
i will when you stop saying *I* am trying to skirt responsibility

you say dudes need not to abandon women they already have kids with, i say that's never going to fukking happen -- and women need to choose who they let dump up in them raw with more discretion.

hell, where are most of these dead beats coming from. single parent house holds. so a better question is why are women raising men who dont want to be fathers?
 

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I also wanna say that we need to stop relying on political and public figures on helping us out. We are the biggest consumers with the smallest influence. We gravitate towards celebrities, the internet, non talented reality ho's, The hottest a$$, trendy music that has less than zero consciousness, bad food, etc. Im guilty of some of this too. I'm not a saint. I think we live in a world where we just want everything to breeze by wait 2 minutes for fifth to pop out the microwave and repeat. All of these things are distractions to keep us away from building ourselves and each other. I'm not saying not to be entertained just don't let it become u. That's why we have gender wars that's all we see. And glorified violence that pushes fake masculinity. So women will want and gravitate toward that. And men will try their hardest to become it. It's soft for men to have and express emotions (no simp) so we'll pretend to be something were not to make up for it. All of this has made us even more insecure on a really deep level. Some women are focused on as shots and looking for a nygga with a jump shot. Instead of looking for personally respect love security and responsibility. Same with dudes simpin over thirsty attention whoring instagram ho's instead of a chick that ain't lookin for ur account number and is caring nurturing and respectful and got things going for her. This shyt is too deep even down to the non talented rappers u listen to. Shyt is so dumb down u have to rely on spell check when texting. Love consciousness confidence and respect is gone and everything else has a bigger influence then we will ever have if we don't switch up. Not saying save everybody just the ones that want help guidance and influence. And try to pass as much knowledge as u can to the ones thats open to hear it.
 

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i will when you stop saying *I* am trying to skirt responsibility

you say dudes need not to abandon women they already have kids with, i say that's never going to fukking happen -- and women need to choose who they let dump up in them raw with more discretion.

hell, where are most of these dead beats coming from. single parent house holds. so a better question is why are women raising men who dont want to be fathers?

STOP

BLAMING

WOMEN.

At a certain point NO ONE is going to hold these nikkas hands.

dudes gotta MAN THE fukk UP.

I hate myself for even using that cliche bullshyt, but its fukking true.

You' asking for nikkas to be babied cause "boo hoo my daddy wasn't there for me"

nikka just the fukk up already.
 

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STOP

BLAMING

WOMEN.

At a certain point NO ONE is going to hold these nikkas hands.

dudes gotta MAN THE fukk UP.

I hate myself for even using that cliche bullshyt, but its fukking true.

You' asking for nikkas to be babied cause "boo hoo my daddy wasn't there for me"

nikka just the fukk up already.

you can't even explain the cliche. i've asked you 3-4 times and you keep glossing over the duties of what "manning up" entails.

and you can't follow it up with another cliche like "IT MEANS TAKING CHARGE AND LEADING!"


i will continue to blame women and i'll tell you this much. it's only going to get worse as real men are dying out. these feminized boys raised by single mothers will continue to abandon their children, so whats your solution? ask women to make wiser choices or just throw more cliches out at men who dont care?
 

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I learned from some of the responses that people will always cape for Barack Obama. This dude has given much more love to (insert group of people that ain't black) than he has to African Americans. He has his good points but I can say that about every president before him...doesn't make him special.

As far as the dude saying livelihood for blacks has improved under Obama.......this is really beyond caping...I really don't even know how to respond to it. Statistics? What about what you see daily? I can twist statistics and have you believing anything if you wanna take them literally. Statistics have overemotional people thinking there is some interracial romance explosion happening in the streets when they can count the number of interracial relationships they personally see over a 2 month time frame on one of their hands or less. That's the weak point of statistics. Show me the breakdown of your statistics. Otherwise :camby:
 
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