Tariq Nasheed on the new Black Panther trailer - "I was waiting for T'Challa to show up, instead I saw T'Cholo. They have GENTRIFIED Wakanda"

[parallax]

What folks seem to be selectively forgetting is many fans urged them folks not to do a recast for T'challa after Chadwick died. They didn't. And now all of a sudden, people are actin' shocked and expressing what amounts to be n'un more than faux outrage, as usual.

people also wanted him recasted as well. now those that wanted him recasted are the ones upset. its not as crazy as you would make it seem

 

[#1 pick]

Tariq always come with those zingers for movies, I remember he called Finn in Force Awakens "12 years a space slave".

That nikka is funny af tho.

 

[jwinfield]

So there’s 3 nikkas in all of Wakanda? You sound like a shill shut up

Yes.

Only 3 black men will be in the movie

End of the movie Namor wins, the new official language of Wakanda is Spanish and the last 3 black men in Wakanda are either killed or exiled.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

I was saying that if Black Panther, Blade, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Armor Wars, Secret Invasion, Captain America: New World Order, and Avengers: The Kang Dynasty all featured Black women, and this 2nd Black Panther movie was the first one featuring Black men, all these TLR posters would be outraged that Black women were getting so much shine.

But instead, with those 7 movies/series all having Black male leads and this being the very first with Black female leads, they think it's some giant conspiracy to erase Black men.

I'm pointing out that TLR posters are attacking the current situation as a huge injustice, but if we flipped the script they'd still claim it was a huge injustice. They aren't happy unless Black women never, ever get any shine in the lead at all.



And the most embarrassing part is that there was barely a peep when 24 of the first 27 MCU movies were headed by White men. Having Black women in the lead of just 1 movie angers them far more than having White men in the lead of damn near 25 straight movies did.

the problem with this, is nobody is going ti-for-tat on whose leading roles

Those i.ps you mentioned are actual black male roles(save for kang). The same people excited for them are excited for projects like (iron heart)

this is not a black women are stealing our roles ordeal

its black panther2, but essentially its a "Wakanda" movie which makes things even worst. They could have recognized the discrepancy-went through the lore of wakanda and black panther itself, and added more male roles to this if they wanted. Instead, they looked at the zeitgeist and opted in for a "black girl magic" no black men needed film. That's what people are calling out

A movie about an all black civilization is very different than the movies your talking about

They had no problem adding men, just not black men

 

[I Really Mean It]

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"T'Cholo poppin out the water"

This Van Jones fakkit really said Democrats are “fixing police departments” when asked what’s been done for black people since Biden took office.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This Van Jones fakkit really said Democrats are “fixing police departments” when asked what’s been done for black people since Biden took office.

Trump's Administration stopped investigating police departments entirely and made an official order limiting consent decrees, basically telling the cops they could do whatever they wanted. That was a huge change from the Obama Administration which had investigated 25 departments and forced 17 consent decrees.

Within two months of taking office, the Biden DOJ opened investigations into Louisville PD (Taylor's death) and Minneapolis PD (Floyd's death), reversed the Trump DOJ order limiting consent decrees, and announced a budget for $3.5 billion in additional funding for the DOJ Civil Rights Division to be focused on police reform. Since then they've announced at least two more new investigations, into Phoenix (discriminatory policing and use of force) and Mount Vernon (discriminatory policing and search/seizure).


It's a small step but obviously a positive one. Not sure why that's a laughing thing.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Trump's Administration stopped investigating police departments entirely and made an official order limiting consent decrees, basically telling the cops they could do whatever they wanted. That was a huge change from the Obama Administration which had investigated 25 departments and forced 17 consent decrees.

Within two months of taking office, the Biden DOJ opened investigations into Louisville PD (Taylor's death) and Minneapolis PD (Floyd's death), reversed the Trump DOJ order limiting consent decrees, and announced a budget for $3.5 billion in additional funding for the DOJ Civil Rights Division to be focused on police reform. Since then they've announced at least two more new investigations, into Phoenix (discriminatory policing and use of force) and Mount Vernon (discriminatory policing and search/seizure).


It's a small step but obviously a positive one. Not sure why that's a laughing thing.

It’s laughable because you can’t fix policing as it is presently constituted. You’re trying to reform an institution that is built upon a foundation of enforcing the white supremacist status quo. It has to be torn down and replaced with a system of equitably administered justice.

These are meaningless gestures, mere show trials to appease the uncritical thinkers among the public who gullibly fall for liberalism’s performative bullshyt.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

the problem with this, is nobody is going ti-for-tat on whose leading roles

Those i.ps you mentioned are actual black male roles(save for kang). The same people excited for them are excited for projects like (iron heart)

this is not a black women are stealing our roles ordeal

its black panther2, but essentially its a "Wakanda" movie which makes things even worst. They could have recognized the discrepancy-went through the lore of wakanda and black panther itself, and added more male roles to this if they wanted. Instead, they looked at the zeitgeist and opted in for a "black girl magic" no black men needed film. That's what people are calling out

A movie about an all black civilization is very different than the movies your talking about

They had no problem adding men, just not black men

This take is goofy as hell and only works if you view every event in the world through gender wars.

That entire "zeitgiest" was around already in 2019 when they planned Black Panther 2 and 3 and yet they STILL signed Chadwick to reprise his role and were developing them for him to be the star in both.

But when Chadwick died, the way events had fallen in the first movie left women as the only natural ones to fill the gap.

* Killmonger dead
* M'Baku can't take the mantle because he doesn't worship Bast
* W'Kabi was a traitor and got too hoed out in the battle


As I pointed out in the first thread after Chadwick's death, only Shuri, Nakia, and Okoye were positioned to take the lead at that point. I wanted them to recast T'Challa and said so in the thread, but I understand why it didn't happen because there was a ton of people who were against that too and probably people who worked on the movie with Chadwick who felt a certain about just replacing him rather than honoring him in this first flick. But in the end that's just one decision and it obviously could have gone either way. Once that decision is made, what do you have left?

Shuri, Nakia, Okoye, Ramonda and M'Baku are clearly the five characters from the first movie who were best positioned to have key roles in this one. And Namur was already teased to be involved way back in Avengers: Endgame when Chadwick was still alive. And now we see those are indeed the characters going forward. Nothing changed, no one got erased, it's literally just the same obvious people in front that were always gonna be there.



Most ironic shyt is that if Chadwick didn't die than this was gonna be a movie about a native Black man trying to keep a foreign Mexican man out of his home, which is pretty much the Tariq wet dream plotline, but 100% chance he would have found some other reason to hate on it cause there are Black folk involved and that's just what he does.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

It’s laughable because you can’t fix policing as it is presently constituted. You’re trying to reform an institution that is built upon a foundation of enforcing the white supremacist status quo. It has to be torn down and replaced with a system of equitably administered justice.

True, but how the fukk are you going to implement that at this moment in history? Even TLR is full of posters mocking "defund the police" and calling for HARSHER penalties and MORE strongarm policing tactics. The president literally doesn't have authority to tear down policing structures, entire federal government can't even do that for anything other than federal agencies (though it would be a good start). So it would be a weird-ass expectation to have of Biden.

These are meaningless gestures, mere show trials to appease the uncritical thinkers among the public who gullibly fall for liberalism’s performative bullshyt.

If you view literally everything within the Executive Branch's authority to do as a "meaningless gesture", then I struggle to see what you actually want.

The White House also supports the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, which is far more than I'd have expected from an old-ass conservative law-and-order Democrat president like Biden. House passed the Act but conservatives are refusing to advance it in the Senate and Manchin and company won't break the filibuster.

George Floyd Justice in Policing Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Biden was my least favorite presidential choice other than Bloomberg. I'm glad that since I live in California I didn't have to hold my nose and vote for him, casted my ballot for Hawkins/Walker instead. He's shyt on wealth, on race, on police and justice system. Even if he had total power, he wouldn't do everything I'd want him to do with the justice system. But it seems weird to shyt on him for doing those things which he actually can.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

This take is goofy as hell and only works if you view every event in the world through gender wars.

That entire "zeitgiest" was around already in 2019 when they planned Black Panther 2 and 3 and yet they STILL signed Chadwick to reprise his role and were developing them for him to be the star in both.

But when Chadwick died, the way events had fallen in the first movie left women as the only natural ones to fill the gap.

* Killmonger dead
* M'Baku can't take the mantle because he doesn't worship Bast
* W'Kabi was a traitor and got too hoed out in the battle


As I pointed out in the first thread after Chadwick's death, only Shuri, Nakia, and Okoye were positioned to take the lead at that point. I wanted them to recast T'Challa and said so in the thread, but I understand why it didn't happen because there was a ton of people who were against that too and probably people who worked on the movie with Chadwick who felt a certain about just replacing him rather than honoring him in this first flick. But in the end that's just one decision and it obviously could have gone either way. Once that decision is made, what do you have left?

Shuri, Nakia, Okoye, Ramonda and M'Baku are clearly the five characters from the first movie who were best positioned to have key roles in this one. And Namur was already teased to be involved way back in Avengers: Endgame when Chadwick was still alive. And now we see those are indeed the characters going forward. Nothing changed, no one got erased, it's literally just the same obvious people in front that were always gonna be there.



Most ironic shyt is that if Chadwick didn't die than this was gonna be a movie about a native Black man trying to keep a foreign Mexican man out of his home, which is pretty much the Tariq wet dream plotline, but 100% chance he would have found some other reason to hate on it cause there are Black folk involved and that's just what he does.

who cares what they were going to do with 2 and 3 the course obviously changed since then.
im not saying they shouldn't make the returning cast the main focus. This is the second film and they could have did some world building
And added more black male characters. Especially since chadwick is gone

and you are the only one in here crowbarring in this whole gender war shyt. "Black men are just jealous black women are getting shine" nonsense

 

[Professor Emeritus]

who cares what they were going to do with 2 and 3 the course obviously changed since then.
im not saying they shouldn't make the returning cast the main focus. This is the second film and they could have did some world building
And added more black male characters. Especially since chadwick is gone

and you are the only one in here crowbarring in this whole gender war shyt. "Black men are just jealous black women are getting shine" nonsense

How the fukk did you decide that I was the one who made this into a gender war after 2 straight weeks of all-out attacks on female characters in the flick?


I don't think Black men in general are upset about the movie at all. I think THE LOCKER ROOM posters are upset. Which does not represent the opinion of most Black men.

 

[I Really Mean It]

True, but how the fukk are you going to implement that at this moment in history? Even TLR is full of posters mocking "defund the police" and calling for HARSHER penalties and MORE strongarm policing tactics. The president literally doesn't have authority to tear down policing structures, entire federal government can't even do that for anything other than federal agencies (though it would be a good start). So it would be a weird-ass expectation to have of Biden.






If you view literally everything within the Executive Branch's authority to do as a "meaningless gesture", then I struggle to see what you actually want.

The White House also supports the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, which is far more than I'd have expected from an old-ass conservative law-and-order Democrat president like Biden. House passed the Act but conservatives are refusing to advance it in the Senate and Manchin and company won't break the filibuster.

George Floyd Justice in Policing Act - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Biden was my least favorite presidential choice other than Bloomberg. I'm glad that since I live in California I didn't have to hold my nose and vote for him, casted my ballot for Hawkins/Walker instead. He's shyt on wealth, on race, on police and justice system. Even if he had total power, he wouldn't do everything I'd want him to do with the justice system. But it seems weird to shyt on him for doing those things which he actually can.

Do you honestly believe Biden operated under an assumption that the George Floyd Justice In Policing Act would pass the Senate? The Democratic party always give off a scent of good intentions, letting it waft beneath the noses of its constituents, pleasing them with its fleeting aroma before it disappears. That’s been its standard MO, especially with black people, for decades - arguably since the Civil Rights act, since that cost them the votes of white people, the only demographic for whom they’re willing to actually do something.

Stop falling for the okie doke.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Do you honestly believe Biden operated under an assumption that the George Floyd Act would pass the Senate? The Democratic party always give off a scent of good intentions, letting it wafts beneath the noses of its constituents, pleasing them with its fleeting aroma before it disappears. That’s been its standard MO, especially with black people, for decades - arguably since the Civil Rights act, since that cost them the votes of white people, the only demographic for whom they’re willing to actually do something.

Stop falling for the okie doke.

You're right, everything's a conspiracy, I forgot where I was for a moment.

Just a couple weeks ago you were defending Jordan Peterson's white supremacist rant but now anything Biden does is suspect and just a sneaky trick.

Jordan Peterson rage-quit the University of Toronto with a White Supremacist-friendly rant

Remember when this guy wanted to be called an intellectual? :francis: The amazing shyt is how strong the victimhood narrative is in this bullshyt even though he always claims he tells his incel white male audience not to be victims. :mjlol: Jordan Peterson: Why I am no longer a tenured...

www.thecoli.com

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

You lot didn't have this energy when a Mexican was in the first movie. Lupita.

 

[Peak]

will this be the most hate watched film of 2022?

Cats will be lining Disneys pockets while watching like